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    Angry So wtf upgrading PC......

    I haven't upgraded my PC since I bought the parts like 4'ish years ago..........

    This is what I got now...............

    i5 6600k ( 4.4 ghz )
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    This is what I want to upgrade too.....

    AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost)

    GTX 1660 Ti or RX 5700 card


    Is it worth upgrading anything other than the video card just to be able to play games at Highest or ultra settings at 1080P ???

    I was told by some tech guy at newegg that if I get a RX 5700 card I wont need to upgrade anything else to play any game at Ultra settings ?
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    you probably cant even upgrade ram or cpu because of your old motherboard, idk though, dont care to check.
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    Use pcpartpicker and it'll let find the parts cheap and tell you if there are any compatibility issues with the parts you pick. Some ryzen boards needs a bios update before being able to run the 3rd gen chips. The ryzen chip won't work in your intel chipset board so you'll need to upgrade that as well. The card will be a nice upgrade, however if you're doing it primarily for the ray tracing capabilities you'll want to note that by enabling rtx on the card you're going to take a significant hit to the fps. You can see several videos online, many likely using the 1660ti that show the difference with the RTX on vs off. IMO, the visual difference currently with RTX enabled is not as significant as the FPS hit you take. If you're staying at 1080p you might be able to get away with it, but personally until the graphics difference is more significant (varies game to game/ engine to engine i know) i'd just leave it off and have a higher FPS with more settings cranked to ultra. Also you're not specifying what games you're trying to run at ultra/high so it's hard to say for sure. Look for video reviews online with those same base components playing the games you want to play and that should be a good approximation of what you can expect.
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    I'd personally just upgrade the GPU and leave the rest, it's fine as it is. I'm still rocking a 2500k and since I upgraded to a GTX1060 I play almost everything just fine on high and 1080p.
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    i5 2500??

    I can play Quake Champions on high settings and get like 70-85 FPS with a GTX 950 2GB card... I should be able to no problem play it on Ultra with just upgrading to either of those cards with 6 - 8GB.
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    OP I'd personally do the following based on your specs:

    1) Upgrade from GTX 950 to RTX 2070 SUPER. The RTX 2070 SUPER will have an average of +298% performance compared to the GTX 950, and will persist in performance for years to come.

    2) Upgrade to 32GB DDR4 RAM. Not sure what your configuration is (4x4GB? 2x8GB? 1x16GB?), but I'd try to make that work.

    3) Consider upgrading storage (M.2 Nvme SSD?) and monitor (144hz? 1440p?).

    From what I can see, you get about 15-20% more performance out of the Ryzen 5 3600, compared to your i5-6600k. This is good, but it's not worth having to replace your motherboard (and potentially your CPU cooler, depending), in my opinion. I think now is the time to wait until Intel releases their 10nm desktop CPUs, which should hopefully be next year. You'll need a new motherboard for the 10nm CPUs anyways.
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    RTX 2070 SUPER is expensive.. that chits $500 for the cheapest... I can upgrade my cpu and motherboard and video card for under $600

    You don't need 32GB ram for gaming.. 16GB is more than enough..
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    Originally Posted by AlphaAlfalfa View Post
    RTX 2070 SUPER is expensive.. that chits $500 for the cheapest... I can upgrade my cpu and motherboard and video card for under $600

    You don't need 32GB ram for gaming.. 16GB is more than enough..
    .....and you won't see the improvement you would if you put it all into your gpu. If you disagree, the 9700k would be above upgrade for you. Nothing wrong with the ram at all. I'd do 9700k+1660ti and forget about ram upgrade or throw it all at gpu. On second thought, my 6600k has its moments of weakness from time to time.
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    Can do whatever... CPU is still good enough to keep up with the big boys today.
    Running an old 950 will take it's toll...

    GPU upgrade is needed - Whilst you're there, Check all your thermal paste.
    I like running 16GB - Leaving 8GB dedicated to 'Gaming' - So you're fine there.

    *IF* all you were looking to do is run on higher settings. Then GPU upgrade is all you need. Rest honestly is perfectly fine.
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    Your GPU is hot garbage. Rest of it is fine. Dump all your budget on a good GPU and you'll get way more performance than upgrading all of it like you're wanting to do.
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    how about this card ?

    XFX RX 5700 8GB GDDR6 DD Ultra w/Boost Up to 1750MHz 3xDP HDMI PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card

    Price: $329.99 & FREE Shipping.


    Then I need a new power supply.. mine is only 400W ;o)
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    Originally Posted by AlphaAlfalfa View Post
    how about this card ?

    XFX RX 5700 8GB GDDR6 DD Ultra w/Boost Up to 1750MHz 3xDP HDMI PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card

    Price: $329.99 & FREE Shipping.


    Then I need a new power supply.. mine is only 400W ;o)
    Given the problems the 5700 series seems to be having I would recommend an Nvidia card instead. I'm sure the AMD fans will lambast me for saying it, but I personally tested a 5700 XT and had nothing but problems with driver crashes, games crashing, black screens and system hangs. These issues are rampant and well reported by other 5700 series users. I'm not sure if the standard 5700 is as bad as the XT so if you want to take the risk, by all means try it and return it if you have problems with it.
    Make sure to load balance the GPU and yeah you definitely need a better PSU with solid amperage.

    If you do decide to go Nvidia, the 2060/2060 Super is a good choice, albeit the Super is a bit pricier than the 5700. No driver issues I'm aware of, and offers at least some level of DLSS and Raytracing support.
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    Given the problems the 5700 series seems to be having I would recommend an Nvidia card instead. I'm sure the AMD fans will lambast me for saying it, but I personally tested a 5700 XT and had nothing but problems with driver crashes, games crashing, black screens and system hangs. These issues are rampant and well reported by other 5700 series users. I'm not sure if the standard 5700 is as bad as the XT so if you want to take the risk, by all means try it and return it if you have problems with it.
    Make sure to load balance the GPU and yeah you definitely need a better PSU with solid amperage.

    If you do decide to go Nvidia, the 2060/2060 Super is a good choice, albeit the Super is a bit pricier than the 5700. No driver issues I'm aware of, and offers at least some level of DLSS and Raytracing support.
    So you've been getting the AMD experience that AMD has been putting out for the last decade? Not surprising. As I said time and time again, once AMD gets done paying off all the youtube reviewers their chit tier drivers will stink up the party again. They abandoned the flagship Rx vega card and its successors in the vega lineup then turned around and leaked a smaller architecture. Chit company that comes in a year after the fact and offers tech marginally cheaper, while offering a rougher experience.
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    they have this GeForce RTX 2060 for $350

    newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-06g-p4-2067-kr/p/N82E16814487442?Item=N82E16814487442&utm_medium=Em ail&utm_source=IGNEFL111219&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL111219-_-EMC-111219-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsCards-_-14487442-S1A2D

    should I get
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    Originally Posted by AlphaAlfalfa View Post
    they have this GeForce RTX 2060 for $350

    newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-06g-p4-2067-kr/p/N82E16814487442?Item=N82E16814487442&utm_medium=Em ail&utm_source=IGNEFL111219&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL111219-_-EMC-111219-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsCards-_-14487442-S1A2D

    should I get
    It'll do what you need to it.
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    I agree with what others have said. I got burned by AMD once and never again. I just don't even give into the temptation and just pay the slight premium to get the equivalent nvidia card. If you divide the price difference by the many hours you will likely use it we are talking pennies an hour if not less for a much less frustrating experience.
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    Originally Posted by AlphaAlfalfa View Post
    they have this GeForce RTX 2060 for $350

    newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-06g-p4-2067-kr/p/N82E16814487442?Item=N82E16814487442&utm_medium=Em ail&utm_source=IGNEFL111219&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL111219-_-EMC-111219-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsCards-_-14487442-S1A2D

    should I get
    You can get a 2060 Super for $400ish which is the equivalent of a standard 2070. If you're willing to spend another $50 it's probably worth the upgrade.
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    So you've been getting the AMD experience that AMD has been putting out for the last decade? Not surprising. As I said time and time again, once AMD gets done paying off all the youtube reviewers their chit tier drivers will stink up the party again. They abandoned the flagship Rx vega card and its successors in the vega lineup then turned around and leaked a smaller architecture. Chit company that comes in a year after the fact and offers tech marginally cheaper, while offering a rougher experience.
    1. OP: No what you have is nothing, cause you cant upgrade **** with that. Youre going to have to buy an all new computer minus case and psu.

    2. Sadly I agree, my 5700xt is bull**** and crashes a lot too.
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    GFX card is most of the equation when it comes to gaming. Upgrade that and start saving for a new build.

    Going from an i5 to an i7 of the same generation would get you hyperthreading but any gain from that would be dwarfed by a GFX card upgrade.
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    just to be able to play games at Highest or ultra settings at 1080P ??
    Literally any top tier card from the last 6 years can do this.
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    Literally any top tier card from the last 6 years can do this.
    Not really. The best card from 6 years ago is going to struggle to run some newer titles at 60+ FPS on Ultra settings.
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    Not really. The best card from 6 years ago is going to struggle to run some newer titles at 60+ FPS on Ultra settings.
    At 1080p? Nope.
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    At 1080p? Nope.
    Benchmarks say otherwise, but whatever you say.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Benchmarks say otherwise, but whatever you say.
    You do understand that a 980 GTX is nearly 6 years old right? Hell a 680 and 780 GTX are both capable of playing 30 FPS+ maxed out on Witcher 3. The 980 GTX is plenty capable of doing 60+ damn near anything at 1080p. If you're worried, grab the 980 Ti.

    We're not talking about blistering 1440 144hz HDR gaming here. 1080 is nothing for most cards.
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    Originally Posted by chrsschb View Post
    You do understand that a 980 GTX is nearly 6 years old right? Hell a 680 and 780 GTX are both capable of playing 30 FPS+ maxed out on Witcher 3. The 980 GTX is plenty capable of doing 60+ damn near anything at 1080p. If you're worried, grab the 980 Ti.

    We're not talking about blistering 1440 144hz HDR gaming here. 1080 is nothing for most cards.
    Put the crack pipe down dude.
    - Witcher 3 is an almost 5 fuking year old game.
    - Only peasants play PC games under 60 FPS. No one gives a fuk about 30 FPS.
    - Please google benchmarks. A 6 year old "top of the line for it's time" GPU cannot play some of the modern, more demanding titles at 60+ FPS on Ultras settings at 1080. Period.
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    You can get a 2060 Super for $400ish which is the equivalent of a standard 2070. If you're willing to spend another $50 it's probably worth the upgrade.
    that is a super
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    there's no way in hell that any video card made 6 years ago is going to run a game on ultra settings...

    The GTX 950 was release in August 2015 and can't run anything on ultra settings with playable FPS... not even on high settings is very playable..
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    Originally Posted by AlphaAlfalfa View Post
    there's no way in hell that any video card made 6 years ago is going to run a game on ultra settings...

    The GTX 950 was release in August 2015 and can't run anything on ultra settings with playable FPS... not even on high settings is very playable..
    Some games, sure. But he thinks ANY game. Lol, just no.
    Especially now that the new norm is for devs to make games with more and more ****ty optimization. It's taking more hardware than ever.
    Look at RDR 2. Sure, it's a great looking game - but doesn't look good enough that it's running like absolute dog**** like it does on any system that isn't using a latest gen RTX card essentially.

    Borderlands 4. Same thing. Requires pretty good hardware to get even decent performance at 1080 because optimization is ****.

    (BTW, none of teh above mentioned titles will run 60+ FPS/1080/Ultra on a 980Ti.)
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    that is a super
    No it isn't. It's "Superclocked". 2060 Super has 8GB, a standard 2060 has 6GB.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Some games, sure. But he thinks ANY game. Lol, just no.
    no game made in 2019 is going to run on ultra settings with a 6 year old video card with playable frame rates...


    Not even DOTA 2 would run good
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