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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    Everyone briefed on the report this morning say its disturbing. Looks like no CT my dude.
    lmfao. So "disturbing" it's still not released and no "disturbing" (lmfao) details have been leaked.
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    Im expecting a nothing burger from it, just more smoke. I just hope someone is working their ass off behind the scenes putting together charges/cases for these treasonous fuks.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    lmfao. So "disturbing" it's still not released and no "disturbing" (lmfao) details have been leaked.
    For as much as this report has been talked up by Fox & the GOP, it better deliver.
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    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...7732161&page=2

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    Originally Posted by KINGFABIAN View Post
    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...7732161&page=2

    I’m just gonna leave this here.
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    Have you read any of it yet? Im 10 pages in and its already damning, complete ignorance on fbi officials to their higher ups. I see some people going to jail.
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    So what time does Trump go on TV and apologize?
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    We found that the FBI did not have information corroborating the specific allegations against Carter Page in Steele's reporting when it relied upon his reports in the first FISA application or subsequent renewal applications.

    Yeesh.

    We found no evidence that the 01 Attorney, NSD supervisors, ODAG officials, or Yates were made aware of these issues before the first application was submitted to the court. Although we also found no evidence that Corney had been made aware of these issues at the time he certified the application, as discussed in our analysis in Chapter Eleven, multiple factors made it difficult for us to precisely determine the extent of FBI leadership's knowledge as to each fact that was not shared with 01 and not included, or inaccurately stated, in the FISA applications. These factors included, among other things, limited recollections, the inability to question Corney or refresh his recollection with relevant, classified documentation because of his lack of a security clearance, and the absence of meeting minutes that would show the specific details shared with Corney and McCabe during briefings they received, beyond the more general investigative updates that we know they were provided
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    So according to Horowitz from what I have read thus far, Crossfire Hurricane was a legit operation based off of receiving info from a FFG (foreign friendly government) about George Papodoplous that is considered to be trustworthy. The glaring omission here is that the information disseminated by Papoldopolous was PLANTED by another FFG.

    Also, the IG found NO other evidence was relied upon to open the investigation, so they ENTIRE predicate for opening the investigation was George Papodopolous.

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    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    We found that the FBI did not have information corroborating the specific allegations against Carter Page in Steele's reporting when it relied upon his reports in the first FISA application or subsequent renewal applications.

    Yeesh.

    We found no evidence that the 01 Attorney, NSD supervisors, ODAG officials, or Yates were made aware of these issues before the first application was submitted to the court. Although we also found no evidence that Corney had been made aware of these issues at the time he certified the application, as discussed in our analysis in Chapter Eleven, multiple factors made it difficult for us to precisely determine the extent of FBI leadership's knowledge as to each fact that was not shared with 01 and not included, or inaccurately stated, in the FISA applications. These factors included, among other things, limited recollections, the inability to question Corney or refresh his recollection with relevant, classified documentation because of his lack of a security clearance, and the absence of meeting minutes that would show the specific details shared with Corney and McCabe during briefings they received, beyond the more general investigative updates that we know they were provided
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    Wow lol, big surprise.
    Smells like bullshiet, lol. They couldn't question the head of the FBI? They agree there was zero evidence to renew FISA warrants, yet they did 4 times..?
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    At some point in your lives, probably when you’re older and wiser...you’ll understand that you were duped so that certain people could make a lot of money and certain people could get elected.

    But today, your head will hurt as you fail to understand why another conspiracy theory didn’t come to fruition.
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    What I'm getting from summaries is there were a lot of improper steps taken in the FISA warrants while somehow those exact same steps were not improper. Not making a lot of sense.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    lmfao. Yes exactly the same...SMH

    "Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far have found any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government. And even the hacking into Democratic emails, F.B.I. and intelligence officials now believe, was aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Mr. Trump."
    And the SCO was opened for 2 years and came to the same conclusions that the FBI did during their investigations.
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    At some point in your lives, probably when you’re older and wiser...you’ll understand that you were duped so that certain people could make a lot of money and certain people could get elected.

    But today, your head will hurt as you fail to understand why another conspiracy theory didn’t come to fruition.
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    Originally Posted by Ephedra View Post
    What I'm getting from summaries is there were a lot of improper steps taken in the FISA warrants while somehow those exact same steps were not improper. Not making a lot of sense.
    Lower level employees made mistakes which is normal and is typical in reports like these.

    The main conclusion was that the Russia probe was justified and proper.
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    nope.
    are you having issues reading the story? It literally spells out that the fbi was investigating Trump's ties to Russia and published a week prior to the election.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Lower level employees made mistakes which is normal and is typical in reports like these.

    The main conclusion was that the Russia probe was justified and proper.
    You can always tell when someone repeats what they hear on the news vs. actually reading the report.
    That was not the conclusion at all.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    So according to Horowitz from what I have read thus far, Crossfire Hurricane was a legit operation based off of receiving info from a FFG (foreign friendly government) about George Papodoplous that is considered to be trustworthy. The glaring omission here is that the information disseminated by Papoldopolous was PLANTED by another FFG.

    Also, the IG found NO other evidence was relied upon to open the investigation, so they ENTIRE predicate for opening the investigation was George Papodopolous.

    LMAO and SMH
    This. And the "information" they received from this foreign government source was a hearsay rumor that had already been reported in the media.

    FBI-- WE MUST INVESTIGATE THE TRUMP TEAM FOR COORDINATION WITH RUSSIA!!!!! They then proceed to open an investigation and say hmm... who should we investigate now? Let's go with page, Manafort, papdapolous and Flynn... not because we have any factual information that links them to Russia, but because we feel like it.

    That has to be the craziest conclusion I've ever read. The information papadapolous received was planted by a foreign spy and extracted by a foreign spy.

    The rumor wasn't even accurate... papadapolus said Russia had Clinton emails. The only released emails were DNC and Podesta.

    The fact that the FBI then ran with that, spied on multiple trump people, lied repeatedly to the courts, and couldn't explain their lies or errors tells us all we need to know. It was a hit job.

    And I'm completely validated in all of the points I've been arguing. They used bogus info, from a corrupted source that they knew was corrupt, hid it from the courts to secure spy warrants, and did it 4 times.
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    This. And the "information" they received from this foreign government source was a hearsay rumor that had already been reported in the media.

    FBI-- WE MUST INVESTIGATE THE TRUMP TEAM FOR COORDINATION WITH RUSSIA!!!!! They then proceed to open an investigation and say hmm... who should we investigate now? Let's go with page, Manafort, papdapolous and Flynn... not because we have any factual information that links them to Russia, but because we feel like it.

    That has to be the craziest conclusion I've ever read. The information papadapolous received was planted by a foreign spy and extracted by a foreign spy.

    The rumor wasn't even accurate... papadapolus said Russia had Clinton emails. The only released emails were DNC and Podesta.

    The fact that the FBI then ran with that, spied on multiple trump people, lied repeatedly to the courts, and couldn't explain their lies or errors tells us all we need to know. It was a hit job.

    And I'm completely validated in all of the points I've been arguing. They used bogus info, from a corrupted source that they knew was corrupt, hid it from the courts to secure spy warrants, and did it 4 times.
    The House members better nail Horowitz for this in the hearings. How he completely ignores the source of Papodopolous' info is appalling. Then again, if he did acknowledge the other spy the entire basis for the operation is undercut and therefore illegal. Horowitz is protecting the swamp.
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    Let's be real... the entire predicate for opening the investigation was because they lost their source of spying info from the FISA search query database. As soon as rogers shut that down, they opened the case using the bogus steele dossier to continue their spying. They knew that the dossier was junk, and that they couldn't use that as their "predicate" for opening the investigation, so they used what has to be the dumbest thing I've ever read... they heard from a foreign spy that papadapolous heard that Russia might have Clinton's emails.

    With that being sufficient predicate, anyone can literally tell the govt anything and you can launch the most invasive intelligence operation into them.

    Barr and Durham better clean up the BS in aisle 1 here.
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    And how about this.

    Horowitz specifically wrote that Peter Strzok and Lisa Page did not affect the start of the investigation and didn’t act out of political bias.

    Horowitz on Lisa Page: “While Lisa Page attended some of the discussions regarding the opening of the investigations, she did not play a role in the decision to open Crossfire Hurricane or the four individual cases."
    Horowitz on Peter Strzok: “We further found that while Strzok was directly involved in the decisions to open Crossfire Hurricane and the four individual cases, he was not the sole, or even the highest-level, decision maker as to any of those matters.”


    So the mean texts between lovers were in fact just mean texts between lovers? Who'd have thunk it?
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    The House members better nail Horowitz for this in the hearings. How he completely ignores the source of Papodopolous' info is appalling. Then again, if he did acknowledge the other spy the entire basis for the operation is undercut and therefore illegal. Horowitz is protecting the swamp.
    Horowitz couldn't question anyone not current in the FBI or DOJ. So there was no way for him to know who Mifsud was or if downer was a targeted operation or a chance encounter. Horowitz is throwing the FBI a bone they don't deserve.

    Keep in mind that we had a 2+ year special counsel investigation do to the actions of these FBI agents. And the entire basis for this whole thing was because papdapolous heard a rumor that Russia had Clinton emails and he told that rumor to someone else? And the FBi concludes that the Trump team must be coordinating? And along the way they used BS info, knew it was BS, didn't even try to verify it, just to keep the charade alive?

    Do you really believe any of that?

    The conclusions on strzok are a joke. Strzok led the Clinton investigation and the trump investigation. He changed wording to exonerate Clinton. He didn't investigate leads that her emails were hacked by foreign countries. He didn't even follow leads that new emails existed. In the trump investigation, he literally oversaw a team that made up info and presented it to a court to spy. Of course he wasn't acting alone, there was a team at the upper levels that were all in on it together.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    And how about this.

    Horowitz specifically wrote that Peter Strzok and Lisa Page did not affect the start of the investigation and didn’t act out of political bias.

    Horowitz on Lisa Page: “While Lisa Page attended some of the discussions regarding the opening of the investigations, she did not play a role in the decision to open Crossfire Hurricane or the four individual cases."
    Horowitz on Peter Strzok: “We further found that while Strzok was directly involved in the decisions to open Crossfire Hurricane and the four individual cases, he was not the sole, or even the highest-level, decision maker as to any of those matters.”


    So the mean texts between lovers were in fact just mean texts between lovers? Who'd have thunk it?
    Strzok literally snuck into the FBI on the weekend when nobody was around and opened the investigation so that nobody could question it...
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    And once again the AG of the US, OUR AG, is acting as a stooge for Trump. What a phuking world.


    "The inspector general’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions, that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory."

    In Barr's opinion. Of course. He also offered his opinion about the Mueller report and it was so one-sided and wrong that freaking Mueller had to correct him.

    Barr is a blight upon this country.
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    Strzok literally snuck into the FBI on the weekend when nobody was around and opened the investigation so that nobody could question it...
    OMFG you are sooo far gone. You're like that special kid who doesn't quite realize that he's special.

    Ok Corky. I'm sure your CT shill sites have ALL the best bigly info.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    And how about this.

    Horowitz specifically wrote that Peter Strzok and Lisa Page did not affect the start of the investigation and didn’t act out of political bias.

    Horowitz on Lisa Page: “While Lisa Page attended some of the discussions regarding the opening of the investigations, she did not play a role in the decision to open Crossfire Hurricane or the four individual cases."
    Horowitz on Peter Strzok: “We further found that while Strzok was directly involved in the decisions to open Crossfire Hurricane and the four individual cases, he was not the sole, or even the highest-level, decision maker as to any of those matters.”


    So the mean texts between lovers were in fact just mean texts between lovers? Who'd have thunk it?
    I think it says people above them made the decision, not them. Which is consistent with their texts anyway that seemed to say McCabe was running things, right?
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    IG report says Crossfire Hurricane team denied receiving intelligence information from John Brennan

    This goes against Comey's recollection that
    "Brennan shared intelligence on the overarching efforts by the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 U.S. elections."
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    Bill Barr:

    Statement by Attorney General William P. Barr on the Inspector General's Report of the Review of Four FISA Applications and Other Aspects of the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation

    Attorney General William P. Barr issued the following statement:

    "Nothing is more important than the credibility and integrity of the FBI and the Department of Justice. That is why we must hold our investigators and prosecutors to the highest ethical and professional standards. The Inspector General’s investigation has provided critical transparency and accountability, and his work is a credit to the Department of Justice. I would like to thank the Inspector General and his team.

    The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory. Nevertheless, the investigation and surveillance was pushed forward for the duration of the campaign and deep into President Trump’s administration. In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source. The Inspector General found the explanations given for these actions unsatisfactory. While most of the misconduct identified by the Inspector General was committed in 2016 and 2017 by a small group of now-former FBI officials, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the Inspector General’s report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process.

    FISA is an essential tool for the protection of the safety of the American people. The Department of Justice and the FBI are committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to rectify the abuses that occurred and to ensure the integrity of the FISA process going forward.

    No one is more dismayed about the handling of these FISA applications than Director Wray. I have full confidence in Director Wray and his team at the FBI, as well as the thousands of dedicated line agents who work tirelessly to protect our country. I thank the Director for the comprehensive set of proposed reforms he is announcing today, and I look forward to working with him to implement these and any other appropriate measures.

    With respect to DOJ personnel discussed in the report, the Department will follow all appropriate processes and procedures, including as to any potential disciplinary action."

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