***Official NoFap & NoPorn thread V5.5 (V6 UNDER CONSTRUCTION)***

[playstation4]

day 14. I wanna hear some physical changes due to no fap guys?

[playstation4]

Nice to see someone asking questions in a genuine manner.

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Mr.500+ can you tell me life before and after no fap...

I actually started this time because I felt whenever I go 30+ days somethings majorly good happens to me.

should fantasizing be considered a reboot? waking up from a night of fantasizing feels like a night of jacking it.

[WhirlwindTobias]

day 14. wanna hear some physical changes due to no fap?

Weak username to thread content to website context correlation.

Seriously you make a username called Playstation4 on a bodybuilding website and your first post is on a nofap thread... eh?

Edit: Answering your other post here, look out for it.

[playstation4]

Weak username to thread content to website context correlation.

Seriously you make a username called Playstation4 on a bodybuilding website and your first post is on a nofap thread... eh?

Edit: Answering your other post here, look out for it.

as anonymous as i wanna be sir. just here for the no fap.

[ScottRose]

DAMN, I was reading Jamesmygym post and I realized what's up.

Lately I was getting depressed from time to time about our life being nothing special and it had no meaning.

I've never liked videogames because I'm pretty bad at them and plus knowing how obsessive I tend to be I know I would turn into a freak in no time, however there's few games I've played that had left a hole in my heart such as chrono trigger, kingdom hearts, zelda and final fantasy(not that I've played all charapters of them), I played chrono like 12 years ago and when I beat the final boss I felt sad because all that fantasy was done, I didn't know what to do...all I could think of was chrono trigger; how happy he was after beating the final boss, knowing that he did something with his life, he saved the world, he was a hero and all I was...was a normal guy that would never do something interesting with his life...I would never travel in time to save the world, I would never save the president from some terrorist, I would never fight a dragon to save my princess or use sorcery to defeat an evil spirit...I'm nothing important, just another part of a big machine and if I ever leave the world then this machine will still exists because I'm not even a big part of it.

I was feeling depressed because I remembered all those feelings, I was remembering zelda ocarina of time and remembered I never played majora's mask because it was too dark and made me feel sad every time I tried to play it, he was traveling in time to save the world from a moon collision and I read this crazy theory that says that in majora's mask the link from ocarina of time(because there's several links and zeldas) is dead and he is actually going thru his dead acceptation and made me even sadder...I could not accept that those characters were a big part of their world and I was not...I had not even the shot to try to save the world because obviously magic does not exists, there's no ganondorf to be defeated by a master sword or a world to be saved by traveling in time.

But it wasn't until now that I realized that I can not save the world by defeating an evil god or something but I can save my self from being so mediocre and defeat this evil spirit called porn and his servant masturbation.
I can not travel in time to save the world but I can save my future self from auto-destruction.
I can not save a princess from a fire-breathing dragon but I can save myself from this mediocrity-breathing dragon I've been surrendering every battle.
I can't cast spells to fight demons but I can cast some self respect to live myself like I was supposed to.

There's no way in the world I would ever be able to be the "Hero of Time" but I could be a hero to myself.
Right now my battle is not to fight ganondorf but to fight my own demons

If there's an afterlife I know mine will be to live all that fantasy that those games left in my heart and if there's a god I hope he let me fulfill this hole they left in my life

[WhirlwindTobias]

as anonymous as i wanna be sir. just here for the no fap.

Okay I'll just respond here.

I'm not 500+ yet, just want to make sure you're clear on that.

Secondly you've got the terminology wrong. "reboot" is defined by the period in which you are rewiring your neurotransmitters away from porn. Essentially "rebooting' your brain. What you refer to is a relapse, at least in the context you state. BUT fantasising is not considered a relapse; we're men at the end of the day and it's natural (and often impossible) to not fantasise.

HOWEVER I don't recommend engaging in it too often, it might be detrimental to recovery. If you're going to do it think about a girl you're pursuing so it'll make you more inclined towards being intimate with her.

[jblaze88]

Edit:

Jblaze throw away the fleshlight (srs). All those things do is reinforce the fact that you're replacing intercourse with something artificial, how anyone can own one of those and think they have a healthy approach to intimacy is beyond me.

Imagine if a girl discovered you own one, she would immediately presume you can't get real pussy so you ordered a fake one from the Internet. It's a step down from a sex doll, and would you own on of those?

Anyway to answer your question re: sensitivity, the 90 reboot period is a good guideline. But if I were you I would just quit it indefinitely until you find a partner to actually discover if you've regained sensitivity or not. Hopefully that in itself won't take 339 days like it did with me.

The main reason I got one is because ive been so worried that when i finally do have sex i would just ejaculate so fast and just embarrass myself. So I got this to practice the motion, as well as work on my stamina. I saw it as a way to work on my performance anxiety basically. This fear I have of being so bad in bed has held me back in times that I would have just had sex with a girl I really liked. It has also just made me even more hesitant to make moves on girls at the bar. If i was just a teen then being bad at sex would be whatever but im in my 20s and most people I know have PLENTY of experience by now.

So I tried this thing out and it turns out my problem is actually the opposite, and I think, much worse. From years and years of hard and dry masturbation...the feeling of something that closely resembles what intercourse actually feels like did hardly anything for me.

So my plan basically was to stop the dry masturbating altogether and get used to using this thing then finally make a damn move

[Yashkovich]

The main reason I got one is because ive been so worried that when i finally do have sex i would just ejaculate so fast and just embarrass myself. So I got this to practice the motion, as well as work on my stamina. I saw it as a way to work on my performance anxiety basically. This fear I have of being so bad in bed has held me back in times that I would have just had sex with a girl I really liked. It has also just made me even more hesitant to make moves on girls at the bar. If i was just a teen then being bad at sex would be whatever but im in my 20s and most people I know have PLENTY of experience by now.

So I tried this thing out and it turns out my problem is actually the opposite, and I think, much worse. From years and years of hard and dry masturbation...the feeling of something that closely resembles what intercourse actually feels like did hardly anything for me.

So my plan basically was to stop the dry masturbating altogether and get used to using this thing then finally make a damn move

Brah, put down the fleshlight.
You reference being hesitant to make moves on girls in the bar so I'm assuming you drink.
When you're drunk, sensitivity is decreased and finishing early isn't something you have to worry about at all. I was worried about that, but then my first time I couldn't finish and pretty much plowed until I got bored.

[WhirlwindTobias]

Brah, put down the fleshlight.
You reference being hesitant to make moves on girls in the bar so I'm assuming you drink.
When you're drunk, sensitivity is decreased and finishing early isn't something you have to worry about at all. I was worried about that, but then my first time I couldn't finish and pretty much plowed until I got bored.

I lol'ed at the image of you pumping away and then just saying "I'm bored now Imma go to sleep thanks for da fuk".

[jblaze88]

Brah, put down the fleshlight.
You reference being hesitant to make moves on girls in the bar so I'm assuming you drink.
When you're drunk, sensitivity is decreased and finishing early isn't something you have to worry about at all. I was worried about that, but then my first time I couldn't finish and pretty much plowed until I got bored.

Yeah I know that but like I said, my problem is actually the opposite...I last too long. Yeah I know sex is more exciting than a fleshlight. Im just hardly sensitive there at all anymore. So I just worry that I'll end up pounding away for two hours until we both get frustrated and give up and then she obviously wont ever want to see me again

[Yashkovich]

Yeah I know that but like I said, my problem is actually the opposite...I last too long. Yeah I know sex is more exciting than a fleshlight. Im just hardly sensitive there at all anymore. So I just worry that I'll end up pounding away for two hours until we both get frustrated and give up and then she obviously wont ever want to see me again

2:51
Kramer knows the solution to all your problems

[jblaze88]

lol i just need to get out there and practice on some random bar slut. im not even a bad looking guy im just so ****ing shy...

[WhirlwindTobias]

Yeah I know that but like I said, my problem is actually the opposite...I last too long. Yeah I know sex is more exciting than a fleshlight. Im just hardly sensitive there at all anymore. So I just worry that I'll end up pounding away for two hours until we both get frustrated and give up and then she obviously wont ever want to see me again

The problem with fleshlight's are that you can make them as realistic as you want it still can't get anywhere near simulating sex. There's so much more to sex than pumping a hole, not to mention every vagina is different. I bet that thing was modelled really tight (maybe even from an actual subject, a porn star perhaps), and when you have sex the girl in question may be pretty loose. So in that respect even the specs provide unrealistic expectation and you could be so conditioned to tightness you've no chance.

[jblaze88]

The problem with fleshlight's are that you can make them as realistic as you want it still can't get anywhere near simulating sex. There's so much more to sex than pumping a hole, not to mention every vagina is different. I bet that thing was modelled really tight (maybe even from an actual subject, a porn star perhaps), and when you have sex the girl in question may be pretty) loose. So in that respect even the specs provide no realism.

its the fleshlight stamina training unit. its supposed to feel even better than actual intercourse. its made to make people last longer basically. they say if you can last 20 mins with this thing then you can last 40 mins in bed. so if that is actually true then ill last hoursss lol. but yeah ive gotten very close to having actual sex and i know theres soo much more to it. the touching, the kissing, the intimacy, the bonding, etc.

[WhirlwindTobias]

its supposed to feel even better than actual intercourse. .

Lol is that how they market it? Typical sextoy agenda, completely disregards the element of human partnership and intimacy.

[CSOleson]

I lol'ed at the image of you pumping away and then just saying "I'm bored now Imma go to sleep thanks for da fuk".

This made me laugh, a ton. Plus Yash's Seinfeld post.

Seriously guys, you are freaking worried about you. Tobias is right. Now I'm not one to be telling how to last longer or get a girl in bed, that isn't my agenda with no fap. There is nothing more beta than a so called fleshlight/pocket pussy. Seriously, that screams inadequacy. Where does that feeling of inadequacy come from? That's right, your old friend/new enemy Mr. Pornography. If you are trying to hook up with random women, then the worse that happens is she leaves displeased, but if your goals is simply you, if you last a minute or 20 that is completely fine. If you are looking at a relationship, the focus should be on the other person, and immediately you will find them more pleased because of it.

Congrats to james on the 90 days, I'll be following him soon hereafter.

I have a little concern on my streak though. I've done this all with an amazing experience; living in another country, traveling to a myriad of other countries, having a roommate keeps me away from "alone computer time" and much more. When I go back I know I am going to have to be vigilant regardless of my day streak, as I do not want to fall back into bad habits.

[AntiGlobalist]

Day 20. Had a breakthrough last night.

Girl came over, we fooled around, gave me the ole "let's wait" card and had major blueballs. But pushed through and didn't fap.

[Dench57]

So I tried this thing out and it turns out my problem is actually the opposite, and I think, much worse. From years and years of hard and dry masturbation...the feeling of something that closely resembles what intercourse actually feels like did hardly anything for me.

In my opinion you're far more likely to have ED than premature ejaculation when real sex happens. I masturbated almost everyday for like 8 years before I lost my virginity, and then when I did lose my virginity I ramped up my masturbating to 2-3 times a day before sex so I could last longer, I didn't see any downside (yes I was that retarded). This led to porn induced ED.

Like others have said, prejaculating is nothing compared to ED, you can go again 10 minutes later, you can drink booze to last longer, try different positions etc. You're running a very real risk of being desensitised to intercourse due to fleshlight/porn use and sex could fail to arouse you. Get rid of that chit!

[nicolais]

In on this.

Just relapsed.

Here we go

[jblaze88]

In my opinion you're far more likely to have ED than premature ejaculation when real sex happens. I masturbated almost everyday for like 8 years before I lost my virginity, and then when I did lose my virginity I ramped up my masturbating to 2-3 times a day before sex so I could last longer, I didn't see any downside (yes I was that retarded). This led to porn induced ED.

Like others have said, prejaculating is nothing compared to ED, you can go again 10 minutes later, you can drink booze to last longer, try different positions etc. You're running a very real risk of being desensitised to intercourse due to fleshlight/porn use and sex could fail to arouse you. Get rid of that chit!

yeah im not worried about prejaculating anymore. im just worried about being really bad at it and possibly lasting too long but **** it im going to get out there this weekend and make some moves

[addicted2013]

Can I attempt Jelqing while doing this? It's more of a workout and you make sure you never achieve a full erection but have to go to around 50% though, its not arousal/porn either I wouldn't be viewing anything sexual

[HunterMC6]

Can I attempt Jelqing while doing this? It's more of a workout and you make sure you never achieve a full erection but have to go to around 50% though, its not arousal/porn either I wouldn't be viewing anything sexual

Why do you want to jelq? Serious question BTW

[sveltest]

day 48 no PME, actually even longer than that since i started that streak when i quit speed, and i quit porn and fapping a few days before that

still in a pretty hard flatline i think

i get a NE pretty much every week and ALWAYS have morning wood but its like my brain doesn't want sex, i'm not horny at all it seem, or at least not like i was.

although i did get pretty turned on last night seeing some naked chick on Boardwalk Empire.

pisses me off that so many good shows have to have tits and ass like every 5 minutes. i'm no prude but are they trying to turn us all into porn addicts?

i still look at girls but its been so long and i've felt like ass for so long that its like my brain has given up thinking thats even possible, like its cutting me off from wanting something it doesn't think i am capable of getting. i trust that is not the case and i trust that this is only another phase to be got over

guys what do you think of those shows? like game of thrones and whatnot...technically its porn since its usually a chick getting nailed...on the other hand i don't have my dick out and its only for a min or 2 max...all the same i think i will just stop watching that kind of ****...waste of time anyway

another thing i've been thinking of... i have really bad ADD. i pretty much just figured out this is why i suck at life so much, i would like to try some meds could help but would they interfere with the reboot? i've kinda been pinning my hopes on no fap and no drugs making me better but maybe i need meds to have a decent life...what do you think of this?

[Trekhan]

Almost halfway through the reboot.

Its smooth sailing at the moment. Only now do I properly feel like I am a part of the No fap crew. :]

[MegaPump]

Can I attempt Jelqing while doing this? It's more of a workout and you make sure you never achieve a full erection but have to go to around 50% though, its not arousal/porn either I wouldn't be viewing anything sexual

Personally I see jelqing just like masturbation, I prefer not to do it and see it as the same or similar thing. But thats just me. I dont see the point of it since you gotta do it every day for the rest of your life and the results arnt great at all other than a few mm in girth. Maybe better erections and a visually more muscular looking penis, but the problem is you can get addicted to seeing your dick that way. I use to jelq but now im shamed to do it. I personally dont wanna be handling my dick like that every ****ing day. As for jelqing and no fap, personally I dont think they go together coz your still playing with your dick and it can feel good like masturbation. To me I use to use more than a 50% and is highly sexual. Another point is you need some visual material and some masturbation to get the right level of erection. Anyway I dont know man, each to there own.

My personal opinion is no you cant jelq when on no fap, but you can stretch since you do that with zero erection. I just accept my penis for what it is. Dont watch porn and you wont think your small. Its porn that makes you want to enlarge your dick!

Day 90.

What can I say? It was 90 days of struggle. 90 days of great change. 90 days of happiness.

Now, I'm not going to act like this was one clean 90 day transition. I had already started my no fap journey months before with several smaller streaks, and was already feeling great changes. Nor am I a completely changed man after this 90 days. The biggest change i have made in my life recently came just through starting no fap, even when i failed. It was a change of mindset.

I'd say I've been addicted to masturbation for about 4 years, since when i was 13. I masturbated a bit before that, but i don't think i was addicted. The thing about an addiction is it clouds your judgement. You can spend years addicted to something without even realising you are addicted, thinking it's normal behaviour, especially in the case of masturbation. I spent these years getting gradually more numb on the inside and more dull, self-obsessed and obnoxious on the outside. I wasn't happy.

It is masturbation and porn that caused this, of that i have no doubt. Masturbation takes an instinct inside all men that is meant to force a man to find love and have children, and uses it against him. It traps you in a prison of your imagination. There you have as many women as you want, all submitting to you, fulfilling your every fantasy, asking for nothing in return. their bodies and personalities are custom made to your wishes. These women worship you, their only purpose is to feed your vanity. Porn only makes this imagination easier, it comes up with these intricate scenarios with beautiful women for you, while all you have to do is imagine yourself in them. What's more, it convinces you these fantasies are real, because you are seeing it with your own eyes. But the fantasies are not real. The man and the woman in the film are real, but in your head the women is there to serve you, not the male actor, a camera crew and a director. You forget this fact, and allow your imagination to carry you away with all these beautiful, subservient women who can never be matched by a real woman. Because of this, you become satisfied with the imaginations. If they are better than real women, why date real women? You are trapped in a prison, but you don't want to get out. You come to love the prison.

But they aren't better than real women. For the purpose of sex, yes, they would be (if they were real that is) but that isn't women's sole use. When a man is horny he wants not a woman but the pleasure of sex, she is just a necessary piece of apparatus. For this, any good looking woman would be interchangeable. It is love that makes a man really want a woman, not just any woman, but one particular woman. This is what the sex instinct is in men for, but masturbation stops you from going out and getting it. (this is largely paraphrased from C.S.Lewis)

Masturbation puts you in a trance. You are trapped in this horrible situation that feeds your ego while simultaneously sucking your spirit. However, you don't actually realise it is masturbation which is doing this to you, and when things do get bad you just masturbate more. The moment your life changes forever is the moment you discover the truth. I was on the way to realising it on my own, but didn't know the extent to which it affected me, until i discovered this forum. If you are considering starting no fap, start it, this will change your life. If you have already started, even if you keep failing, then you have already made the biggest step. Congratulations, and keep trying.

This is the first mental battle, and you have won it. You have started to detach yourself from fapping. Even if you keep relapsing, you are now conscious of your problem and the negatives of masturbation. The next step is fully letting go, being able to truthfully say you never wish to fap again. You have to really feel this or else you will not be able to let go. The only way to achieve this is by reading posts like this, intended to motivate and inspire fellow no fappers. They may not all be help you, hopefully this one will, but they will give you fresh ideas and a new perspective, as well as practical tips. The next mental battle after that is having a strong enough resolve against masturbation to actually overpower the urges every man will inevitably get. Direct those urges towards what they're meant for, improving yourself, finding love or just having sex with a real woman.

Next, is waiting. The mind takes a long time to heal. All those years of masturbation will leave a scar, which may never go away. however over time you can forget about masturbation completely. It also takes time for the physical brain/body to recover from the addiction, and to reset all the hormone imbalances etc. (flatlines, wet dreams etc.) the length of time often spouted is 90 days, and yet i feel no sudden difference today. It is a gradual change and it may take much longer than 90 days for some. However, once you are healed, you can start to work on actually improving yourself rather than just removing the negatives. You will find all this potential for happiness, charisma, success within yourself. This is nothing new, this is what has been present in you since birth, it has just been locked away. At first by your youth, when you are not fully mature it stops you from being the best you can be, but often, and in my case, when it came time to mature i found myself locked up in a new prison. Masturbation took over as the thing holding me back. Before no fap i had never spent a single day free to be my true self and showing my full potential. Now i feel myself improving in almost every aspect every day. What's more is, all of this will start happen without you even noticing. You will be wondering one day whether you are fully "healed" on no fap, evaluating your life since you started, and you will come to realise that now you have become charismatic, free of anxiety, care-free, motivated, and most of all - happy, and you will wonder "when did that happen?"

At least that's how it happened for me.

You bring some good points man. I probably missed out on a lot of sex and real meaningful relationships because of porn and masturbation. Who knows, maybe I would have been married with kids today.

Edit: I think I may have just had an epiphany. We are satisfying our sexual needs at the cost or real sex, intimacy and meaningful relationships.

[HunterMC6]

guys what do you think of those shows? like game of thrones and whatnot...technically its porn since its usually a chick getting nailed...on the other hand i don't have my dick out and its only for a min or 2 max...all the same i think i will just stop watching that kind of ****...waste of time anyway

another thing i've been thinking of... i have really bad ADD. i pretty much just figured out this is why i suck at life so much, i would like to try some meds could help but would they interfere with the reboot? i've kinda been pinning my hopes on no fap and no drugs making me better but maybe i need meds to have a decent life...what do you think of this?

Try to stay away from "meds" IMO. No science back up here just can't stand how all these pharmaceuticals are getting a medicine label when they are really drugs.

As far as those shows are concerned just make sure you don't seek the show out for the sex content and you are fine. Fast forward or mute/ look away if you think it is a huge problem for you but don't deprive yourself of something just because it may contain sex/sexual content. Try finding things that don't contain sex and you will be sitting in a room with bare walls.

[playstation4]

day 15, why I'm I so angry? is this normal? really frustrated with life.

[GrndmasGetMeHrd]

I'm on this, I need a community to keep me focused.

Tomorrow is Day 1, let's kill this addiction.

[WhirlwindTobias]

Sveltest:

Mate you've been posting since I first became integrated into the community, and you're asking about sexual stuff on t.v just now? I would have anticipated that you would have known by now.

Rule for t.v shows is same as hnnnnng threads, you'll find it in V5's FAQ. And yes fanservice does get ridiculous sometimes.

Mega:

That is probably the best response re: jelqing I've ever read, and it's value is probably added by the fact you have experience in the matter. It's going in V6, thanks for composing it.

[Yashkovich]

Day 120, fuaaaark