For decades recognized as one of the most powerful bodybuilders of all time MARVIN EDER a star of the 1950's and pre steroid era, used poundages in basic exercises and trained with an intensity that few even of today's over supplemented or drug assisted bodybuilders, complete with well padded lifting suits can approach, let alone excel. Examples will follow, but consider for now the power of being able to side press single-handed more than your own bodyweight (220lbs at 200lbs b/w) or complete 8 wide grip chins with an extra 200lbs attached ?.a real 'lat' stretcher.
One of the first to bench press 500lbs at under 200lbs bodyweight. A terrifically strong Olympic presser, i.e. the two hands MILITARY press, his supposedly 'professional' status denied him the opportunity to compete in the USA OLYMPIC team or the AAU Mr. America, both being the losers, as Eder would undoubtedly have won many other top titles in bodybuilding and the Olympic games for America if given the chance.
His workouts covered a wide range of activities, from weight lifting to powerlifting, bodybuilding, and agility, balancing and wrestling. Even after a workout he still had energy and the enthusiasm to do 50 sets of chins and dips. He could chin 7 or 8 times with added weight of 200lbs attached to his feet and regularly did 8 dips with an extra 400lbs fixed to his legs and was capable of completing 8 one hand chins when around 200lbs bodyweight.
He was a genuine 'natural'. Genetically gifted, he had enormous recuperative powers and limitless drive, yet never ever used steroids or drugs of any kind. He enjoyed food, but did not take supplements, just having a good appetite for natural foods. Marvin believed and still believes, one should train for health and fitness as well as size and power. He readily admits being an 'easy gainer'. His workouts covered a wide range of activities, from weight lifting to powerlifting, bodybuilding, and agility, balancing and wrestling. Even after a workout he still had energy and the enthusiasm to do 50 sets of chins and dips. He could chin 7 or 8 times with added weight of 200lbs attached to his feet and regularly did 8 dips with an extra 400lbs fixed to his legs and was capable of completing 8 one hand chins when around 200lbs bodyweight.
Measurements
His best measurements were height 5ft 7ins. Weight 203lbs, neck 19ins, chest 49ins, waist 34ins, forearm 15ins, biceps 19 plus, thighs 26 and calves 17ins. David Willoughby lists Marvin?s lifts in his fine to me Super Athletes. As does Osmo Kiiha in a superb coverage interview of Eder in Iron Master Dec 1993 issue and for whom we acknowledge help in preparing this article. (Regrettably Iron Master has now ended on issue 29). These include his parallel bar dip using extra 434lbs, this plus his own weight of 198lbs making a total of 632lbs and 7 reps with 400lbs. 100 wide arm chins without weights, Single chin with added 250lbs, strict barbell curl 210 lbs, cheat curls with 255lbs, clean and press two dumbbell at same time using 120 lb dumbbells for 10 reps. He could press behind neck 305lbs and side press with his left hand 220]lbs. Plus a lot more. Herb Glossbrenner, statistician, weight training historian said, "Marvin Eder was for real. It is indeed a shame that we will never know just what he could have done had he been given a fair shake
At His peak:
Bodyweight 203 - Height 5 ft 7 ins - Waist 34
*
Chest close to 50 expanded - Neck 19 ins, Biceps over
*
20 ins. , Forearms 15 ins, Thighs 26, Calves 17 ins.
Best Lifts
Include Strict curled 210 lbs at a York picnic.
*
Clean and pressed 355 lbs.
*
Side pressed live weight 220 lbs with left arm
*
Crucifix with 2 X 100 lbs dumbbells
*
Laternal raises 120 lbs dumbbells for reps
*
Deadlift, without practice 665 lbs
*
Parallel bar dip with 434 lbs, plus of course his own bodyweight of 198 lbs.
|
Thread: Marvin Eder 1950's Bodybuilder
-
05-30-2009, 04:45 PM #1
Marvin Eder 1950's Bodybuilder
Last edited by SEEDY; 05-30-2009 at 05:02 PM.
-
05-30-2009, 04:47 PM #2
-
05-30-2009, 04:49 PM #3
-
05-30-2009, 04:49 PM #4
-
-
05-30-2009, 04:52 PM #5
-
05-30-2009, 04:52 PM #6
-
05-30-2009, 04:55 PM #7
What do you mean by "relying on fat to be strong" Being fat dosnt make you strong...just means you eat like ****.
Bodybuidlers back then trained like powerlifters with heavy ass weights. Not like 90% of ****gets these days who just want to get big as fast as they can by lifting high repitions of a moderate weight.
-
05-30-2009, 05:09 PM #8
-
-
05-30-2009, 05:21 PM #9
-
05-30-2009, 05:32 PM #10
-
05-30-2009, 05:42 PM #11
-
05-30-2009, 06:20 PM #12
-
-
05-30-2009, 06:29 PM #13
-
05-30-2009, 06:43 PM #14
-
05-30-2009, 07:20 PM #15
yes
Yes being around 12-14% but beyond that its not really any better. Odds are the "fat" guy probably had a bit more carbs and water in his body from eating all the time, hence making him feel stronger.
Most people are too lazy to fix their nutrition issues.
ONLY in the most f@gg0t of all lifts, the bench press, does being a round ball with arms and legs become beneficial.Cha Cha Cha
-
05-30-2009, 07:26 PM #16
-
-
05-30-2009, 07:56 PM #17
-
05-30-2009, 08:27 PM #18
-
05-30-2009, 08:31 PM #19
-
05-30-2009, 08:37 PM #20
-
-
05-30-2009, 08:52 PM #21
-
05-30-2009, 08:55 PM #22
-
05-30-2009, 08:57 PM #23
- Join Date: Sep 2005
- Location: Chicago, Illinois, United States
- Posts: 12,235
- Rep Power: 18228
guess i just disagree. The flat bench press has become a staple in my routine and IMO there is nothing better for developing thick, dense pecs, tris, and front delts than doing heavy flat barbell bench presses.
Inclines hurt my shoulders, and declines just feel awkward IMO. I dont do eitherkeep it simple, keep it basic, keep it heavy
iForce Nutrition Sponsored Athlete
www.iforcenutrition.com
-
05-30-2009, 09:06 PM #24
-
-
05-30-2009, 09:08 PM #25
-
05-30-2009, 09:12 PM #26
-
05-30-2009, 09:18 PM #27
-
05-30-2009, 09:48 PM #28
LOL. You can't be serious. Thats like saying hmm you think if Kobe bryant got a little stronger he would be more unstoppable?
AB is the exception not the rule. He is that big primarily for bench press. I can't believe people fight SOOOOO HARD to be a fat@ss.
More impressive...
220 deadlifting 700 or 280 deadlifting 700
You don't have to be a fatass to be strong as hell. Damn.Cha Cha Cha
-
-
06-01-2009, 04:16 PM #29
-
06-01-2009, 05:14 PM #30
1.doubt if Eder did dips with 400lbs for 8 reps
2.I don't flat bench press but I do incline press at about 30 degrees,
3.IMO the incline bench press is the worst movement for chest.
4.Incline dumbbells is a absolutely great movement
5.different strokes for different folks, different body mechanics, different leverage issues for people, some can't do behind the neck presses, some can.
Marvin Eder had a damn good physiqueARMY VET, POLICE OFFICER,SHEEPDOG
★cVc★
Similar Threads
-
Marvin Eder, in a class of his own!
By Carl123 in forum Over Age 35Replies: 33Last Post: 08-07-2012, 11:47 AM -
Reg Park and Marvin Eder
By HolyMoly in forum Professional BodybuildingReplies: 17Last Post: 04-02-2009, 07:43 PM
Bookmarks