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    Exclamation *ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION-NEW Beta-Alanine, creatine comparison article in MD!!





    I just received my electronic version of Muscular Development(Nov pg190) and saw another one of our beta-alanine articles published. They actually forgot my name on the article this time, as Anssi and I collaborated on this write-up..lol But none the less, I wrote the beta-alanine section and Anssi wrote the leucine section.

    This article is a head on comparison with creatine, showing their similarities and differences. As you all know, beta-alanine consistently gets touted as the next creatine for obvious reasons.

    The point of this article was to show why it is often touted this way, but at the same time, also explain how this statement can be misleading if the details are not fully understood. Hopefully the intention of this article is understood and the reader realizes that beta-alanine DOES NOT replace creatine. At the same time getting the point across, that they do share many parallels, which brings about the comparison.

    You all know I love beta-alanine, but I also have huge respect for creatine and do not want beta-alanine to be known as a replacement to creatine. Not only would it be inaccurate to market beta-alanine this way, it could also stop people from properly understanding how beta-alanine works and how different it is from creatine!

    Creatine is one of my all time favorite supplements and NOTHING can ever replace it. I believe both creatine and beta-alanine to be the two most effective ergogenic aids in sports nutrition by FAR.













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    Thank you for your support and we have another VERY different article that should be out in MD next month!
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    Congrats on another article! i will definitely give it a read...

    I saw NEW and thought this was the new product thread though
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    Originally Posted by INGENIUM View Post
    Congrats on another article! i will definitely give it a read...

    I saw NEW and thought this was the new product thread though
    Yes, he's at it again


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    Originally Posted by INGENIUM View Post
    Congrats on another article! i will definitely give it a read...

    I saw NEW and thought this was the new product thread though
    Thanks, I think we have had ATLEAST one article a month in MD for quite some time now! Hopefully the mainstream is starting to pick up on how great beta-alanine really is. I know the industry surely is..lol

    Yeah, I wish it was the NEW product thread as well, as we are all chomping at the bit. Let me just put it to you this way, I'm VERY glad I didn't give an announcement date.lol

    Never the less, it is still VERY close to being released!!

    I will be interested on your thoughts on this article INGENIUM, so shoot me a PM ect after you read it.
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    Another great article Sebastian. Agree with you too about the Creatine and BA being two most effective ergogenic aids in sports nutrition by FAR.

    These will give good consistant results for years to come as Creatine has already shown to do.
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    Originally Posted by Mickfootie View Post
    Another great article Sebastian. Agree with you too about the Creatine and BA being two most effective ergogenic aids in sports nutrition by FAR.

    These will give good consistant results for years to come as Creatine has already shown to do.
    Thanks Mick

    I wanted this article to keep things in perspective between beta-alanine and creatine, as beta-alanine is quickly increasing in popularity.


    1. Why all the sudden love from AEN towards creatine?
    2. Does this mean AEN is coming out with some sort of beta-alanine/creatine product??
    3. And why is AEN having a conversation with himself
    4.And why is AEN referring to himself in third person, that is always so damn annoying...

    Actually we have always tried from the beginning to make a clear distinction between the two and creatine has always been my second favorite supplement, so nothing new here.
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    Congrats on another article Sebastian and the continous exposure AEN is deserving and receiving.
    Thank you kindly sir, we have been working our butts off for quite some time now, so it's always nice to get some recognition!
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    Nudez or negz. I mean, tell us about the new product or negz
    How about nudes of the new product.

    Here's my first and only clue on the new product. Remove the label from SteelEdge and you have the nude of the new product.

    Originally Posted by Sapper564 View Post
    How much reading are you going to make me do Seb!!
    The beta-alanine section is only one page, don't worry sapper!

    I didn't even know that article was going to get published..lol


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    Originally Posted by Athletic Edge N View Post
    How about nudes of the new product.

    Here's my first and only clue on the new product. Remove the label from SteelEdge and you have the nude of the new product.



    The beta-alanine section is only one page, don't worry sapper!

    I didn't even know that article was going to get published..lol


    This one and the preWO article in this months issue of Fitness RX, were both a surprise to me.

    Hmmm..bigger sized bottle eh?... Sounds like a powder to me

    Good thing the article is only one page, I only have a month to read until your next article will come out

    Fitness RX..hmmm not my mag of choice but it is all good, more exposure is always good.
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    Originally Posted by Sapper564 View Post
    Hmmm..bigger sized bottle eh?... Sounds like a powder to me

    Good thing the article is only one page, I only have a month to read until your next article will come out

    Fitness RX..hmmm not my mag of choice but it is all good, more exposure is always good.
    Or caps, family value size!

    FRX, is actually a very good mag, great articles and not to heavy on the ads. It certainly doesn't have that hard core apeal. But for exercise enthusiasts who are not really into the sport of bodybuilding and just want up to date training/nutrition articles, it's probably the best out there.

    For sheer entertainment, bb coverage and tons of great articles, MD is tough to beat though.

    I'm also a big fan of MuscleMag and enjoy REPS as well
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    How about nudes of the new product.

    Here's my first and only clue on the new product. Remove the label from SteelEdge and you have the nude of the new product.
    Negged.

    The beta-alanine section is only one page, don't worry sapper!

    I didn't even know that article was going to get published..lol


    This one and the preWO article in this months issue of Fitness RX, were both a surprise to me.
    Shouldn't they tell you when they publish your work? lol
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    Originally Posted by Athletic Edge N View Post
    Or caps, family value size!

    FRX, is actually a very good mag, great articles and not to heavy on the ads. It certainly doesn't have that hard core apeal. But for exercise enthusiasts who are not really into the sport of bodybuilding and just want up to date training/nutrition articles, it's probably the best out there.

    For sheer entertainment, bb coverage and tons of great articles, MD is tough to beat though.

    I'm also a big fan of MuscleMag and enjoy REPS as well

    POWDER FTW...

    I am subd to REPS

    I havent seen fitness RX for awhile...Maybe I will look into again.

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    Negged.



    Shouldn't they tell you when they publish your work? lol
    We have done so many articles in MD at this point and they are consistantly getting submitted, that you don't always know which issue what article comes out in..lol

    No big deal though, as long as they get published I am happy.
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    POWDER FTW...

    I am subd to REPS

    I havent seen fitness RX for awhile...Maybe I will look into again.

    I agree with MD and MM

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    Yeah, check it out Sapper, it's a sweet mag. Very clean layout with, great pics and training/supplement articles. Same owners as MD of course
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    lol..of course

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    Thanks Mick

    I wanted this article to keep things in perspective between beta-alanine and creatine, as beta-alanine is quickly increasing in popularity.


    1. Why all the sudden love from AEN towards creatine?
    2. Does this mean AEN is coming out with some sort of beta-alanine/creatine product??
    3. And why is AEN having a conversation with himself
    4.And why is AEN referring to himself in third person, that is always so damn annoying...

    Actually we have always tried from the beginning to make a clear distinction between the two and creatine has always been my second favorite supplement, so nothing new here.
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    Originally Posted by Athletic Edge N View Post
    Thanks Mick

    I wanted this article to keep things in perspective between beta-alanine and creatine, as beta-alanine is quickly increasing in popularity.


    1. Why all the sudden love from AEN towards creatine?
    2. Does this mean AEN is coming out with some sort of beta-alanine/creatine product??
    3. And why is AEN having a conversation with himself
    4.And why is AEN referring to himself in third person, that is always so damn annoying.

    Actually we have always tried from the beginning to make a clear distinction between the two and creatine has always been my second favorite supplement, so nothing new here.



    Answers to your questions -

    1) Because IXL works very well with Creatine.
    2) No. As this would distract from IXL.
    3) Because he is 'CRAZY'
    4) No Idea.........
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    Originally Posted by Mickfootie View Post


    Answers to your questions -

    1) Because IXL works very well with Creatine.
    2) No. As this would distract from IXL.
    3) Because he is 'CRAZY'
    4) No Idea.........
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    While I really liked MAN Orotine a lot when I was dosing it regularly, in the current application I'm using it in, which is combined with whey for a PWO shake, I like it considerably better here. Even on a reduced calorie/cutting diet, the recovery is phenomenal, at least on par with the higher end supplements out there. I believe the reason for that is my continued use of IntraXCell, which was not the case the first time I ran Orotine. Beta-alanine and creatine are a very potent combination, though I also believe timing is somewhat important.

    At the moment, I'm taking IXL first thing in the morning and then first thing as soon as I get home. The Orotine I'm taking PWO, which seems to vastly increase the uptake...I'm debating further experimentation with this, but for a couple issues. First, I'm almost out of Orotine, second, I'm holding far too much water than I'm really finding comfortable, though less than when I was also on Melting Point...if I ever do a bulk again, bet your ass I run this combo, though...
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    Originally Posted by EMISGOD View Post
    While I really liked MAN Orotine a lot when I was dosing it regularly, in the current application I'm using it in, which is combined with whey for a PWO shake, I like it considerably better here. Even on a reduced calorie/cutting diet, the recovery is phenomenal, at least on par with the higher end supplements out there. I believe the reason for that is my continued use of IntraXCell, which was not the case the first time I ran Orotine. Beta-alanine and creatine are a very potent combination, though I also believe timing is somewhat important.

    At the moment, I'm taking IXL first thing in the morning and then first thing as soon as I get home. The Orotine I'm taking PWO, which seems to vastly increase the uptake...I'm debating further experimentation with this, but for a couple issues. First, I'm almost out of Orotine, second, I'm holding far too much water than I'm really finding comfortable, though less than when I was also on Melting Point...if I ever do a bulk again, bet your ass I run this combo, though...
    Great post. You are absolutely right on taking creatine postWO. There's are some cool creatine postWo studies, showing that an exercised muscle group increases creatine uptake to a greater extent then the non exercised muscle group. They often use one legged leg extensions and then take biopsies of both legs to measure muscle creatine levels. I always thought this site specific absorption effect was very cool.

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