I got all 3 sling shots as a gift on fathers day and now I'm working on some testing so I can give you guys some good feed back. The short review is they they are great and I would suggest them to anyone who wants to increase their bench. The original is probably good for most people. Please ask any questions you have about them.
Reactive(blue): Gives a little bit of carryover, mild support and compression at the elbow, comfortable and soft material. Great for DE work, increase the reps you can do slightly, or for light carryover to hit your raw max easier or go slightly above. raw bench 405 (IOR), reactive 415 (POR)
Original(red): More carryover, more overload, and more weight on the bar. Much more pop than the reactive, this one is made for moving bigger weights. Material is stiffer and gives more support and compression at the elbow.
Maddog(black): Double layer of the original. While it is thicker it doesn't have the same stiffness that the original has, but that's not a bad thing, I find it to be more comfortable. You get the benefits of the other ones, but with even more support. Ive done 462 in this one(IOR). Dumb KG plates, I wanted 430ish. Very heavy duty, I'd only get this one if you bench over 400 OR are use to getting alot out of a bench shirt.
Long Review:
Fist off, I had tried a Maddog sling shot and a super ram before. The Ram fit more like a bench shirt, but it only really helped me right off the chest then gave out. Almost like doing a 2-3bd press, while still going full ROM. The sling shot gave more support throughout the full ROM and allowed for more reps and more overload. This depends on which sling shot you are comparing to which ram, but again this was the super ram and Maddog slingshot.
I was only going to get the Maddog and only planned on using it when warming up for shirted bench. (raw max 405 but need 500 or more to touch in my shirt, depending on how I put it on), But I have an awesome wife and she got all the reactive, original, and maddog for me. I'm glad she did because they are great tools to add to the training mix. The elbow relief and compression is another excellent thing the sling shot provides.
As for sizing, I'm 220+, cold arm measurements are 16"+relaxed/18"+flexed, and I wanted to be able to get it on and off by myself, so I went with 2XL, which fits perfect.
Here is my first time in mine. I wanted to feel them all out and get a rough idea of the support each one gave. I repeat the weights with different slingshots so I can feel the difference and see the difference in bar speed.
*I cant post the link yet, but its on my youtube channel. link in my sig. vid is "Sling Shot Test"
Right now I'm doing some testing on ME bench days. Tested my raw POR(pinky on ring) 1rm at 375, the next week did it in the reactive and got 415. I'll do the original and the Maddog, then I'll retest my raw max.
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Thread: Sling Shot Review
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07-04-2012, 06:00 PM #1
Sling Shot Review
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07-05-2012, 03:10 PM #2
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07-05-2012, 05:00 PM #3
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07-11-2012, 10:46 AM #4
Got 445 in the red/original sling shot with POR grip. So far raw=375, reactive=415, original=445. Ive done 462 IOR in the Maddog.
I might skip ME work for one week, then test the Maddog followed by raw the weeks after. I have been doing all of my benching inside the rings or narrower and my right shoulder/AC joint is feeling it.Training Log:
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07-12-2012, 11:12 AM #5
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07-12-2012, 11:27 AM #6
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I used a strengthshop ballista, which is a slingshot-type device that they manufacture. I haven't used it very much (only twice so far), but my initial impressions are that it isn't making a huge difference to my bench press.
Raw, my bench press is 175kg (385) and with the ballista I managed 185kg (407).
I'm not sure if this is because I'm not using the spring effectively to build momentum, which leaves me doing a raw press when the elbows clear the chest?No longer powerlifting. Lifting history:
Competition PR - 210kg/167.5kg/235kg (612.5kg total)
All-time gym PR - 222.5kg/182.5kg/250kg
Recent gym 1RM - 210kg/175kg/250kg
(All lifts are raw - wrist/knee wraps and belt)
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07-12-2012, 11:32 AM #7
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07-12-2012, 11:57 AM #8
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07-12-2012, 01:46 PM #9
I haven't tried floor press with it yet, but I will
I cant really compare that to any of the sling shots, but it is similar to the carryover I get out of the reactive (blue) sling shot. Its similar to reverse bands, you have to use the spring and press hard and fast. If you dont then rev bands or the sling shot might actually "make" you slower.Training Log:
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07-12-2012, 01:50 PM #10
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07-12-2012, 01:56 PM #11
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Nice review. I have the blue sling shot and it has helped increase my bench. Blue is great for beginers and intermediate.
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07-12-2012, 02:02 PM #12
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07-12-2012, 02:07 PM #13
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So whats the point of the sling shot? Does it help you get used to handling heavier loads, or getting more acustomed to lifting in a bench shirt? Just curious
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07-12-2012, 02:40 PM #14
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07-12-2012, 03:12 PM #15
I'm only getting 20-30 lbs out of my Ram. It'd be cool to get another opportunity at using the Slingshot, everyone seems to be getting decent carryover from it.
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07-12-2012, 03:18 PM #16
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It felt like I was going wrong during the time it was stretched over my chest, just like you said. I think I took it for granted that I could push it off my chest because of the assistance rather than fully accelerating out of the bottom, so the momentum wasn't enough to assist the lockout. I'm sure there's more there when I get used to it, but my raw bench is my priority, so as long as I'm working above my 1RM after the sticking point that's good enough for now.
No longer powerlifting. Lifting history:
Competition PR - 210kg/167.5kg/235kg (612.5kg total)
All-time gym PR - 222.5kg/182.5kg/250kg
Recent gym 1RM - 210kg/175kg/250kg
(All lifts are raw - wrist/knee wraps and belt)
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07-12-2012, 07:56 PM #17
I dont know if this is why for you, but I think raw benchers will get less weight at first compared to guys use to lifting in a shirt, or use to doing bands or chains. If you have strong lockout then you will get more at first. I'm use to getting well over 100lbs out of my shirt. This isnt to say that you wont catch up, you just need to build lockout strength. Especially in the ram, i felt much less support in the top half. Not a bad thing but it depends on your goal for the movement.
No problem. The ram I used was a medium super ram, so maybe sizing had something to do with it. But the way the ram is worn around the bicep(like a bench shirt) compared to the slingshot being worn around the elbow, it would make sense that the ram would help less at lockout, again like a bench shirt. But like I said above the ram can have its place depending on your goal or objective of the session or lift.
Its like comparing bands and chains, both are accommodating resistance, provide a similar but different stimulus, and neither one is better or worse and they both can have a place in your training.Training Log:
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07-12-2012, 08:01 PM #18
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07-17-2012, 07:39 PM #19
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07-29-2012, 09:12 PM #20
Finished my Sling Shot experiment
Week 1- 375 raw(POR PR), missed 385
Week 2- 415 reactive sling shot
Week 3- 445 original sling shot
Week 4- 475 maddog sling shot
Week 5- 385 raw, POR PR, jumped to 405 and missed. I really wanted 405(PR raw bench with ant grip), maybe next time. So I added 10lbs to my POR bench from this 3week sling shot cycle. If I run this again I would do it against bands or chains.
My next experiment is to use the slangers for my DE days. I should be handling more weight on my speed work, but over 185 usually doesnt feel good. My goal is to improve comfort, speed, and form with heavier weights. 2-3 weeks with the original, 2-3 with reactive then see how it feel raw. I already did 225 against short lights(40 to 80+) in the original. I'll post results in 4-6 weeks.Training Log:
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