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    Originally Posted by CHICKWOOD View Post
    There is a bigger gap in the wrestling between Anderson and GSP than the striking between Vitor and Anderson. Vitor arguably had better hands than Anderson but thats it. Anderson was the better overall striker. One thing which is a fact is GSP is a way better wrestler than Anderson and could possibly out grapple him for 5 rounds.
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    Originally Posted by Mongoose_Man View Post
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    Silva would destroy GSP, hands down (no pun intended)

    his reach is just to far... and his speed...

    yes gsp is a good humper laynpray master, but I dont think he can get in on silva...

    he will be kept at bay and struck to death and you know he has a glass jaw and doesnt like to get hit
    I've said it before and I'll say it agian... the reason GSP will not be effective vs Silva is because GSP will NOT be willing to stand with Silva AT ALL. If GSP does nothing but takedown attempts he will be extremely one-dimensional and it will be very hard for him to get Silva down (repeatedly). GSP has lightening quick TDs but that's because he mixes in strikes... he wont strike with Silva just like he wouldn't strike with Dan Hardy. Sonnen at the very least was willing to trade strikes so he could get the TD.
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    Originally Posted by 6-SPEED View Post
    Yes, Sonnen is a great wrestler, but still Silva didn't seem to be trying very hard. I hope GSP makes it past Shields because I truly believe Silva will put him to sleep. Eventually you'll be hoping for a 2 vs 1 bout to finally see Silva loose... I know you're mad bruh... but get used to it.
    that's because i'm the type of guy that thinks guys like anderson and muhammad ali (who anderson looks up to btw) are not as good as they think, they use the technique to make OTHER people think they are THAT good, and by then they already have them defeated. Anderson has a lot of weaknesses, the problem is that not many people can get in close enough without eating punches/knees to expose them, sonnen came the closest

    GSP would own anderson if he got him down, it's that simple, anderson would be stuck and not be able to do anything, and if GSP actually had the mindset to do so, he definitely could finish him the way he used to do to people on the ground
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    Lets be honest, ufc 126 was boring. All three relevant fights sucked. How is this possibe?
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    the real rason gsp takes guys down is because he ha better striking then everyone he has gone up against and is much bigger then them. Both of these go out the window vs anderson who has already beaten great wrestlers who are bigger then gsp.
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    Originally Posted by 6-SPEED View Post
    I've said it before and I'll say it agian... the reason GSP will not be effective vs Silva is because GSP will NOT be willing to stand with Silva AT ALL. If GSP does nothing but takedown attempts he will be extremely one-dimensional and it will be very hard for him to get Silva down (repeatedly). GSP has lightening quick TDs but that's because he mixes in strikes... he wont strike with Silva just like he wouldn't strike with Dan Hardy. Sonnen at the very least was willing to trade strikes so he could get the TD.
    I agree. If gsp doesnt at least make it look like he's willing to strike anderson will just move away making it impossible to take him down. Chael employed the game plan that has been needed all along.
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    Originally Posted by SquatTillYaPuke View Post
    Lets be honest, ufc 126 was boring. All three relevant fights sucked. How is this possibe?
    I thought they were awesome. They even all went how I wanted.
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    Originally Posted by SquatTillYaPuke View Post
    I agree. If gsp doesnt at least make it look like he's willing to strike anderson will just move away making it impossible to take him down. Chael employed the game plan that has been needed all along.
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    Originally Posted by Addthefun123123 View Post
    that's because i'm the type of guy that thinks guys like anderson and muhammad ali (who anderson looks up to btw) are not as good as they think, they use the technique to make OTHER people think they are THAT good, and by then they already have them defeated. Anderson has a lot of weaknesses, the problem is that not many people can get in close enough without eating punches/knees to expose them, sonnen came the closest

    GSP would own anderson if he got him down, it's that simple, anderson would be stuck and not be able to do anything, and if GSP actually had the mindset to do so, he definitely could finish him the way he used to do to people on the ground
    So you're saying Anderson isn't that good, he just magically fools people into thinking he's good by destroying everyone he fights. Also, he has a ton of weaknesses, but is able to cover them up by beating the sh!t out of people. Okay.
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    Originally Posted by CHICKWOOD View Post
    There is a bigger gap in the wrestling between Anderson and GSP than the striking between Vitor and Anderson. Vitor arguably had better hands than Anderson but thats it. Anderson was the better overall striker. One thing which is a fact is GSP is a way better wrestler than Anderson and could possibly out grapple him for 5 rounds.
    you would have to at least say that Anderson has good BJJ, and, after tonight, good defense/standing up after takedowns. In pure wresting, GSP might own him through pure explosiveness if he rolls out his arsenal early, but to say Silva has no good defense against it is simply not true. GSP could grapple him easily for 5 rounds, but Silva could catch him like he did Henderson just as easily.
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    Originally Posted by Addthefun123123 View Post
    that's because i'm the type of guy that thinks guys like anderson and muhammad ali (who anderson looks up to btw) are not as good as they think, they use the technique to make OTHER people think they are THAT good, and by then they already have them defeated. Anderson has a lot of weaknesses, the problem is that not many people can get in close enough without eating punches/knees to expose them, sonnen came the closest

    GSP would own anderson if he got him down, it's that simple, anderson would be stuck and not be able to do anything, and if GSP actually had the mindset to do so, he definitely could finish him the way he used to do to people on the ground
    Silva now has 8 straight title defenses and 14 consecutive wins! You don't have to like him, but you have to respect that accomplishment! He's not as good as he thinks? Well what does that say about all the guys he has been beating? They all thought they were THAT good. You don't have to be a Silva fan, but refusing to acknowledge that the guy is a beast just makes you look ridiculous.
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    Originally Posted by pchopper View Post
    So you're saying Anderson isn't that good, he just magically fools people into thinking he's good by destroying everyone he fights. Aslo, he has a ton of weaknesses, but is able to cover them up by beating the sh!t out of people. Okay.
    uh yeah, just watch chael's fight, without any excuses, chael dominated him by taking the fight to anderson's weaknesses, and anderson only beat chael because chael has that big bjj defense weakness...


    GSP does not have that weakness, if he does what chael did, he will beat anderson
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    silva is quick and due to that gsp cant just shoot from accross the ring to take him down, true... but to say silva will not trade a single strike to close the distance is just retarded
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    Originally Posted by 6-SPEED View Post
    Silva now has 14 straight title defenses... 14! You don't have to like him, but you have to respect that accomplishment! He's not as good as he thinks? Well what does that say about all the guys he has been beating? They all thought they were THAT good. You don't have to be a Silva fan, but refusing to acknowledge that the guy is a beast just makes you look ridiculous.
    first of all, he has had 8 straight title defenses

    second of all i did not say he sucked, i said I do not think he is as good as everyone thinks

    I think there are plenty of people that could beat him:

    GSP, Shogun, Jon Jones, even chael could beat him with the right sub defense training

    until he beats those guys, I refuse to believe he is the best
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    Originally Posted by Addthefun123123 View Post
    uh yeah, just watch chael's fight, without any excuses, chael dominated him by taking the fight to anderson's weaknesses, and anderson only beat chael because chael has that big bjj defense weakness...


    GSP does not have that weakness, if he does what chael did, he will beat anderson
    he had an injured rib and he is an olympic level wrestler best in mma

    he wanted to sub chael also and when he went for the sub got it pretty easily

    gsp would not be able to take him down and would be embarrassed on the feet like every single fighter anderson has fought.
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    you would have to at least say that Anderson has good BJJ, and, after tonight, good defense/standing up after takedowns. In pure wresting, GSP might own him through pure explosiveness if he rolls out his arsenal early, but to say Silva has no good defense against it is simply not true. GSP could grapple him easily for 5 rounds, but Silva could catch him like he did Henderson just as easily.
    Anderson does have good BJJ but I dont think its good enough to catch GSP. Once GSP gets you down you arent going to get up. Also, GSP wont take any risk when hes on the ground which makes it harder to sub him.
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    Originally Posted by Addthefun123123 View Post
    that's because i'm the type of guy that thinks guys like anderson and muhammad ali (who anderson looks up to btw) are not as good as they think, they use the technique to make OTHER people think they are THAT good, and by then they already have them defeated. Anderson has a lot of weaknesses, the problem is that not many people can get in close enough without eating punches/knees to expose them, sonnen came the closest

    GSP would own anderson if he got him down, it's that simple, anderson would be stuck and not be able to do anything, and if GSP actually had the mindset to do so, he definitely could finish him the way he used to do to people on the ground
    lol the silva hate on here is fukkin unreal. Did you ever read this trollish bs u just wrote?

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    Originally Posted by Addthefun123123 View Post
    first of all, he has had 8 straight title defenses

    second of all i did not say he sucked, i said I do not think he is as good as everyone thinks

    I think there are plenty of people that could beat him:

    GSP, Shogun, Jon Jones, even chael could beat him with the right sub defense training

    until he beats those guys, I refuse to believe he is the best
    I hear what you're saying, and obviously this kind of debate is fun to have, but you will never acknowledge that he's the best, because there will always be a next challenger and you will always say "He needs to beat **** to be the best." And when he inevitably loses (if he doesn't retire first) then you'll say "See?"
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    Originally Posted by CHICKWOOD View Post
    Anderson does have good BJJ but I dont think its good enough to catch GSP. Once GSP gets you down you arent going to get up. Also, GSP wont take any risk when hes on the ground which makes it harder to sub him.
    GSP can win. If he explodes straight out and doesn't get caught in standup. Most people that do well against Anderson tend to be conservative in their strikes, etc. Chonnen was the only diff, and he got caught in a sub. It really depends on how GSP comes out. He would have to come out like a hurricane instead of trying to actually out-strategize Silva over several rounds, methinks.
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    Originally Posted by Addthefun123123 View Post
    uh yeah, just watch chael's fight, without any excuses, chael dominated him by taking the fight to anderson's weaknesses, and anderson only beat chael because chael has that big bjj defense weakness...


    GSP does not have that weakness, if he does what chael did, he will beat anderson
    chael was on steroids and has 10x the aggressiveness of gsp. that 1:30 minute lapse? woulda been 3 rounds with gsp.

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    Anderson does have good BJJ but I dont think its good enough to catch GSP. Once GSP gets you down you arent going to get up. Also, GSP wont take any risk when hes on the ground which makes it harder to sub him.
    anderson silva is not 170. he's 185 and fought at 205. he is going to get up a lot easier than a 170er
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    Originally Posted by pchopper View Post
    I hear what you're saying, and obviously this kind of debate is fun to have, but you will never acknowledge that he's the best, because there will always be a next challenger and you will always say "He needs to beat **** to be the best." And when he inevitably loses (if he doesn't retire first) then you'll say "See?"
    well i'm just that kinda guy who sees his fighting style, and i did the same with muhammad ali, and I see a guy who is considered the best but I know there is a guy like Mike Tyson out there that will one day come to light and I will KNOW that guy will be better

    I don't think being elusive is the best type of fighting style, SHogun proved that by beating machida, I'm just waiting for someone to do the same to silva

    Maybe it's just a personal strategic belief, but I really think being elusive only takes you so far before someone defeats you with physics (force)
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