Bull****. If he downplayed it you'd **** on him for that. If he overhyped it you'd claim he was fomenting panic. You people are absolute hypocrites.
The MSM downplayed it before Trump did, claiming if you were prepping or otherwise taking it seriously that you needed to "get a grip" because the flu was worse. This is the same media that called the virus "The Chinese Virus" or the "Wuhan Virus/Flu" until Trump called it the same thing, then they proceeded to claim that was "racist". I guess that means the MSM is racist?
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03-29-2020, 03:23 PM #61
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03-29-2020, 03:28 PM #63
Nope. If he went hardcore, I wouldn't have faulted him for it. I thought his travel ban on China was the right move. His European travel ban was kind of bungled, but it was still the right move. But he shouldn't have been downplaying COVID-19 before he declared a national emergency.
Maybe he didn't want people to panic. It may be just me, but I like people to give me the straight facts with no sugarcoating. After you give me the facts, I'll figure out how to respond to it.أشهد أن لا إله إلاَّ الله و أشهد أن محمد رسول الله
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03-29-2020, 03:32 PM #64
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Going "hardcore" prematurely could/would have nuked the markets (not that that didn't happen anyway) without knowing the severity of the situation. The idea was to not create an undue panic. That's what a leader is supposed to do; Quell fears.
Fair enough.
You kind of address your own point here. He'd be damned if he did, and damned if he didn't. There's no way to please everyone.. He was trying to assuage fears so as to avoid people panic buying, etc in an effort to avoid fukcing up the stock market. Once it became evident that things were out of hand, he took decisive action.
Could he have acted sooner? Yes. Hindsight is 20/20."That boulder is too large. I could lift a smaller one."
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03-29-2020, 03:36 PM #66
Doesn't look any worse then when a really bad flu comes through to be honest.
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03-29-2020, 03:52 PM #73
Isn't it some kind of privacy violation or ethics violation for filming inside a hospital and putting it out on Youtube?
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03-29-2020, 04:40 PM #82
Hmm, it's called planning before you run out.
Think of it like an emergency fund (I know many Miscers find saving money to be a foreign concept). If you have an unexpected cost, or even better, an inevitable large cost coming soon, is it not a good idea to save money to account for that?أشهد أن لا إله إلاَّ الله و أشهد أن محمد رسول الله
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03-29-2020, 04:52 PM #85
I'm not sure I follow.
The hospital is running out ventilators because the number of cases keeps increasing day by day. A lot of these patients stay on these ventilators for a prolonged length of time, like a week, for example. If one of these patients die, then sure, the ventilator will be sanitized and used for the next patient. But when the rate of patients needing a ventilator is greater than the rate of patients dying, then you simply need more ventilators.
Either that, or you start doing crazy stuff like trying to split a ventilator among multiple patients--something that a joint statement by multiple medical societies has not recommended for a multitude of legitimate reasons--or you simply have to start rationing resources, meaning someone who's too ill and likely to have a grim prognosis will not be offered ventilation in favor of someone who has a better chance.أشهد أن لا إله إلاَّ الله و أشهد أن محمد رسول الله
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03-29-2020, 05:07 PM #89
How the fuk is this bad? Look at the Italian one - 10 half dead people crowded around a ventilator on wheelchairs, next to a rubbish bin at the stairwell, because they got no space or beds.
Everyone is one a bed in this one, looks like a normal fuking hospital. 90% of the video is this ugly beyotch face, and the other 10% is of a normal hospital. Fail.
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03-29-2020, 05:08 PM #90
Yeah, Trump's getting pretty good approval ratings on his handling of the crisis, and he has been fine since he stopped using it as a campaign talking point and let the adults in the room take over. But, yet this is MiscFront's response:
Actual Dr: This is really bad, we have sick people lined up in the streets and a refrigerator truck out back for bodies. We need help.
Misc Wingnuts: Sick people are in a hospital, looks fine to me. Trump rules, just a librul cunspersy.
I mean, holy chit, I get it, it's an election year and delusional people are ready to do whatever they have to in order to not believe in anything that could possibly be bad about their Dear Leader, but this is unreal. The whole world shut down. That didn't happen as part of a plot to damage Trump. Get a grip, this is a real danger. Furthermore, it's not even clear what the political ramifications of this are going to be. If the pandemic is passed by the summer, people are back to work, and the economy is at least recovering, which is pretty likely, Trump could just as easily benefit politically from the whole thing by successfully leading the nation through a crisis.
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