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Thread: "new" craze vs "old" craze
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08-23-2012, 07:59 PM #61
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08-23-2012, 08:07 PM #62
So would a solution be to just buy the grape flavor instead of the berry lemonade, or are both flavors now subject to the "newly revised weakened" batch?
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08-23-2012, 09:19 PM #63
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subb'd for more knowledge on Original vs. newly formulated Craze.
Will rep for info. on where to purchase Original Grape Craze. PM.
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08-24-2012, 12:01 AM #64
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Lol @ this thread.
I've got 5 unopened tubs of the original Grape. I was going to trade some off for the Crazolade. Guess I'll keep them until this is answered definitively.## chillin at home crew
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08-24-2012, 06:58 AM #65
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08-24-2012, 07:38 AM #66
I prefer to use humping scoops
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08-24-2012, 08:48 AM #67
call me crazy but i just too 2 scoops of the og grape like I said i would and.... I felt that rush of energy! First it was that warming sensation in the stomach which lets me know that it's working, then I started to feel it in my legs (I always feel it in my legs first), and then to the rest of my body. Damn... Now i don't want to finish the last of my grape
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08-24-2012, 10:15 AM #68
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08-24-2012, 10:32 AM #69
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08-24-2012, 10:59 AM #70
This could very well affect future formulations/productions of Craze, but I'm not sure.
I'm thinking "placebo" at this point: grape has a strong "medicinal" taste, and the other taste like sugary pop. Maybe this have an influence?
(Btw grapefruit interacts with medicines/drugs, although I don't think Craze candy grape actually have grapefruit in it!)
Also, there's a STRONG tolerance to the 'euphoric' effects, you may still get the physical boost but the mind driven stuff will fade quickly after repetitive doses of Craze.
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08-24-2012, 11:09 AM #71
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08-24-2012, 11:25 AM #72
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So...
It changed?
Read, Read, Read, and i still want proofs :x~ GrowUpOrDieTryin'
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08-24-2012, 11:30 AM #73
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08-24-2012, 11:39 AM #74
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~ GrowUpOrDieTryin'
"For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.
This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance." 1 Timothy 4:8-10
"Or don't you know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself, for God bought you with a high price. So you must honor God with your body." 1 Corinthians 6:19-20
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08-24-2012, 01:30 PM #75
Guys, I'm still not convinced. I took a "heaping" scoop of the new lemonade craze like robboe sugguested and I still don't get that same feeling as with the old grape craze. The only difference between the heaping scoop and the normal scoop of the new craze is it gave me a more potent feeling of the new craze feeling, but still doesn't even compare to the old one.
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08-24-2012, 01:43 PM #76
This is funny cause I was just telling my friend last night that the new flavor hasn't been working for me as well as the old grape stuff. Then I log on here and see this thread! The new formula is a big disappointment...I prefer my c4 over it.
How's your burger, bro?
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08-24-2012, 01:44 PM #77
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08-24-2012, 02:00 PM #78
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08-24-2012, 02:13 PM #79
Yeah the ingredient pannel pics were posted, plus the lemonade container I have actually has the exact same ingredient label as my grape. But if u still want me to post pics of both I can.
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08-24-2012, 02:14 PM #80
I bought 3 tubs of the old Craze when BB.com had some deal going. It never worked for me or any of my friends I let try it. I'm was tempted to purchase the new Craze however I am a bit to skpetical to do so.
"Go home to your dumbbells, go work on your pecs and your lats! We're all REALLY impressed!"-Elaine Benes (The Parking Garage-1991)
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08-24-2012, 02:21 PM #81
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Not going to say you're not having issues, Craze has seemed to be hit and miss for a lot of folks, but I took 1.25 scoops (Crazolade) today at about 11:30 and chugged through the afternoon just like any other afternoon whether it be the grape or the new lemonade. Had the same focus and drive.
I hope you get an answer that satisfies you but honestly, I doubt you'll find an answer to your liking.A fan of not overthinking.
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08-24-2012, 02:35 PM #82
Well, I know I'm not gonna get the answer I want from a ds rep, unless I am completely mistaken, and its either all in my head or I have a bad batch. Doesn't seem like its just in my head since many on here have already noticed the same thing, in addition to the post I made stating how I did indeed blame it on placebo/tolerance until 2 weeks in I noticed it was paricularly "lemonade" days when my mood was depressed (in comparison to old grape days). So yes, I am basically saying that as of now, I believe the new ds craze is differently forumlated than the original craze before the lawsuit happend. I think that they made it "weaker", not because they had something illegal in it, but because one of the active ingredients that works on dopamine levels was just too much, and might have been unsafe for a handful of users. So they drop the amount of one ingredient, and maybe upped a harmless one such as creatine or caffeine, so that the label would not need to be changed, but the effect distinctively different..... the worst case scenario is that they did indeed have something "secret" in the orignal, and they took it out recently, but I would never actually accuse them of that because I respect ds. And of course, there is the possibility that I just received a defective batch, but then how would u explain everyone else who has been agreeing with me, once again.
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08-24-2012, 02:43 PM #83
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08-24-2012, 02:43 PM #84
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08-24-2012, 03:02 PM #85
I know for a fact that the current line does not produce the same amazing effect that the very early samples gave me. I haven't had a chance to try out the new flavor yet but I'm itchy for it constantly - gotta finish up my current tub and my unopened grape.
Very inappropriate example but it's like a drug addict chasing after that first "high" they experienced from a particular substance.
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08-24-2012, 04:35 PM #86
Tolerance. Every single PWO.
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08-24-2012, 04:38 PM #87
I just bought a tub of craze from a local vender... Its kind of a small shop. The trimethylglycine is the first on my list. Does this mean I got the original formula? They still have a bunch of it since they dont deal in that big of volume since its a small shopp owned by real meat heads. This stuff didnt really make me feel stimmed out, Just felt kinda good and time flew by kinda fast. This sound about right? I do think it really needs a little more caffeine since I am used to getting about 400 mg a day.
Not right now chief... Im in the Phucking zone!
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08-24-2012, 04:52 PM #88
No you are wrong. Read above. At my current state of "craze tolerance", the feeling I get from the new craze lemonade is very different from the old grape craze taken at the same "craze tolerant" state that I had while I took the lemonde. We can safely eliminate tolerance out of the entire equation.... in other words, I'm not comparing the craze buzz I got 2 months ago to the craze buzz now. I'm comparing the "new" version of craze buzz right here and now to the "old" version of craze, right here and now. It would be the same difference if I were to compare them 2 weeks ago, obviously differet.
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08-24-2012, 05:03 PM #89
Almost impossible to compare the 2 and get an exact set of circumstances that affect the effect of the PWO.
Strange things happen to chemicals over time. The Craze that was in that tub 10 months ago, may not have the exact same chemical balances now. Also, you would have to be completely controlled. Like exact amount of and the exact food and drink when taking the different PWOs. Also, your weight, fat%, water retention at time of comparison would have to be exactly the same. Sheez, I move 5 lbs a day sometimes up or down. Sleep over the past week even, amount of and how deep, and length of REM sleep.
Any differentiation on even one small aspect of the above, and probably many more that a layman as myself do not know about, can, and will, affect the effect of the PWO.Last edited by newjeep75; 08-24-2012 at 05:11 PM.
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08-24-2012, 05:18 PM #90
Lol you are still misinterpreting my propositions. You are close but not quite there. First of all, its not so much a "weaker" effect in terms of sensitivety or potency. The difference is an entire aspect that the new contains and the old lacks. That aspect is euphoria and mind control. The new craze does not provide the euphoria the old does, and my focus is non existent on the new, compared to the old. Also, your proposition that its stll impossibl to compare based on body weight, water retention, sleep, etc is extremely difficult to consider realistic. My body weight, water retention, and sleep cannot fluctuate a significant amount from a day to day basis to produce the difference in effect between the two crazes. I could see your explanation being plausible, if once again, I was talking about craze use now, compared to craze use in past, in a temporal manner so to speak, but not between two days of use, under extremely similar circumstances.
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