Optimal protein intake.

[Ondemand]

1.8-2.1

Mine is 1.3-1.4, fuk you

[l2ambo]

Mine is 1.3-1.4, fuk you

It rarely goes to 2.1. I sit around 1.8-1.9 85% of the time.

[Ondemand]

It rarely goes to 2.1. I sit around 1.8-1.9 85% of the time.

Still.. feelsbadman

[l2ambo]

Still.. feelsbadman

Yea, back when I was 17 I did nothing but play WoW, drink Root beer, and eat large pizza's for 18 hours a day. Didn't gain a pound.

[JasonDB]

Natties are unlikely to see much, if anything, in the way of muscle gain by exceeding 1g per lbs of bodyweight.

Which is why I take exactally 200 grams per day of chocolate whey purchased at the bodybuilding.com store.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bo...34A18573BFEF65

Bodybuilding.com 100 % Whey Power is pure and clean. Clean like the Rocky mountain springtime air during a warm sunset, and refreshing like that first cup of coffee straight from the french press. In fact I like to mix my Bodybuilding.com 100% Whey Power with my morning coffee for an extra pick-me-up before hitting the gym.

[l2ambo]

^^^ ohyou.jpeg

[JasonDB]

Yea, back when I was 17 I did nothing but play WoW, drink Root beer, and eat large pizza's for 18 hours a day. Didn't gain a pound.

^^^ ohyou.jpeg

Did you down C'thun in vanilla or Illidan before sunwell came out? I did. (srs) Then I started getting more and more bored with the game and will never be returning as I hate both anime and Kung Fu Pandas which seems to be the direction the game is going.

[l2ambo]

Did you down C'thun in vanilla or Illidan before sunwell came out? I did. (srs) Then I started getting more and more bored with the game and will never be returning as I hate both anime and Kung Fu Pandas which seems to be the direction the game is going.

Downed Illidan about a month after sunwell came out. I did 21% of the Deeps the first time my guild downed Brutallus. Destro Lock. brb 1 second cast 12k shadow bolt crits 70% of the time.

[JasonDB]

Downed Illidan about a month after sunwell came out. I did 21% of the Deeps the first time my guild downed Brutallus. Destro Lock. brb 1 second cast 12k shadow bolt crits 70% of the time.

I was a holy priest so my deeps was not so good.

[l2ambo]

I was a holy priest so my deeps was not so good.

lol, there was one SSC raid where my guild wiped on lurker when he was @ like 15% health, it was just me and a holy priest left. I just said "I got this, just keep me alive." everyone in ventrillo laughed. Ended up downing him, everybody was flippin out. That was a high point in my life. Sad is sad. I pvped as well, had a disc priest, SL/SL lock makeup, 2050 arena rating on Bloodlust battlegroup.

[l2ambo]

My two roommates are trying to get me to play with them. (one being joseph1990) I'm just like, " FK THAT CHIT, NEVAAAAARRRRR AGAIN."

[otterakl]

[l2ambo]

What yo you consider "physiological sufficiency"?

Hunter you thur?

[l2ambo]

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[Lvisaa2]

Finding the optimal amount will be individual and somewhat subjective based on preference(i.e. satiety, taste, enjoyment, affect on gym performance, etc.). It kinda amazes me that these threads pop up.

There are guidelines to follow to make sure that you are receiving a sufficient amount, but past that you need to experiment and see how things work for you.

I usually sit around 1.5g/bw. I <3 protein sources and sometimes have to limit myself. I've hit 400+g in a day.

[ErickStevens]

I find I perform best on about 1.25g/BW. 1g/BW isn't enough for my goals and anything more than 1.25g/BW doesn't seem to have much of an effect.

[JasonDB]

I find I perform best on about 1.25g/BW. 1g/BW isn't enough for my goals and anything more than 1.25g/BW doesn't seem to have much of an effect.

Interesting. Do you feel this is due to your particularly high intensity of training or volume or other factors? Any theories?

[ErickStevens]

Interesting. Do you feel this is due to your particularly high intensity of training or volume or other factors? Any theories?

I assume it's due to my training and the fact that I'm a unique little snowflake.

[l2ambo]

This is my routine. I'll pretty well be hitting every muscle twice a week.

Bulking Routine 3 Sets (Minimum) Rep Ranges 3-12

On / On / On / Off / Repeat

General Back / Delts / Neck Day 1 (Foam roll entire back prior)

2-5 Minute Stretch

Neck

Shrugs (Smith Preferred)

Back

Wide grip pullups (Weighted)
BB Row (UH)
T-Bar Row
Seated Cable / Hammer Strength Rows (Lats & Rhomboids)
DB Row
Cable Pull-over
Close Grip Lat Pulldowns (Hammer or Cable)

Shoulders

DB Shoulder Press
Lateral Raise (DB or Hammer)
Posterior Raise
Reverse Pec Dec
Anterior Raise (Once a week)
Internal / External Shoulder Rotation

Legs / Abs / DL's Day 2 (Foam roll Legs, IT Band & Lower back prior)

2-5 Minute Stretch (20-50 Rep light weight leg extensions)

Quads / DL's

Hack Squats (Alternate with Leg Press)
Leg Press (Alternate with Hack Squats)
Deadlifts
Leg Extensions

Hams

Seated Leg Curls
Lying Leg Curls

Abs SS With Calves

Standing Calve Raise
Weighted Crunch
Leg Raise

Glutes

Lunges (DB or BB)

Chest / Arms Day 3

2-5 Minute Stretch

Chest

Flat DB Press
Incline DB Press / Incline Hammer Press (Maybe both)
Cable Fly's
Dips (Machine or Weight Belt)

Biceps

Preacher Curls (Bench or Machine)
Miscellaneous Curl (Power)
Concentration Curls
Hammer Curls

Triceps

Skullcrushers
Rope Pushdowns
V-Bar Pushdowns
Dip Movement (Depending on Energy levels)

Forearms

Forearm Curls (OH & UH Grips)

Edit: I'll probably end up going 1.25/lb just because I'm OCD as Fcuk.

[JasonDB]

I assume it's due to my training and the fact that I'm a unique little snowflake.

I've upped mine a bit myself, as I find my body needs more protein atm, particularly doing bench/squat/deadlift singles twice a week and tons of volume on my hypertrophy days. At around 250-275g a day.

[foodpr0n]

@ ~6kcal I couldn't stick to 275g

Op = lucky! on all macro fronts really!

[determined4000]

I find I perform best on about 1.25g/BW. 1g/BW isn't enough for my goals and anything more than 1.25g/BW doesn't seem to have much of an effect.

then why were you at 1g/lb for so long?

[AlwaysTryin]

Joseph and you are roommates?

Yes and OP ignores all Joseph's nutrition advice and made countless stupid threads

Lol

[Ka0s]

imo
too much protein > not enough protein

$0.02

[drewzon87]

how would you ever really be able to tell the difference between 1 or 1.2 or 1.5 when there are so many other factors involved?

[Mr.Cooper69]

how would you ever really be able to tell the difference between 1 or 1.2 or 1.5 when there are so many other factors involved?

Ceteris Paribus

[drewzon87]

Ceteris Paribus

no ****

Let's say I ate 1.5 for 6 months and 1.2 for 6 months and 1.0 for 6 months

I'm going to train exactly the same that entire period? Exact number of reps and weight and sets? Gains are diminishing over time as well

It's not possible or desirable to hold everything equal to find out the perfect amount of protein for you

IMO with that in mind just shoot high At the expense of a few carbs

[Mr.Cooper69]

no ****

Let's say I ate 1.5 for 6 months and 1.2 for 6 months and 1.0 for 6 months

I'm going to train exactly the same that entire period? Exact number of reps and weight and sets? Gains are diminishing over time as well

It's not possible or desirable to hold everything equal to find out the perfect amount of protein for you

IMO with that in mind just shoot high At the expense of a few carbs

It's a given that life is too dynamic to hold a double blind, placebo controlled trial for protein intake.

However, I'm sure he's been at it long enough to have tried various protein intakes for extended periods of time, MULTIPLE times throughout his life. If he has consistently had better results with 1.25g/lb vs 1g/lb, then obviously he will go with the former.

The reality is that this is anecdote, but you should ultimately go with whatever helps you sleep better at night, even if it's placebo (I'm not saying it is, but it could be).

[determined4000]

how would you ever really be able to tell the difference between 1 or 1.2 or 1.5 when there are so many other factors involved?

My piece of steak will be smaller and my potato bigger

[l2ambo]

Joseph and you are roommates?

Yea.

Yes and OP ignores all Joseph's nutrition advice and made countless stupid threads

Lol

You are one cheeky kunt mate.