My best advice would be to start with inclines, and focus on the upper chest more. This routine works great for me and has been giving me the best shape:
1. Incline Barbell Press
2. Incline Hammer Strength Press (or Incline Dumbbell press)
3. Flat Bench
4. Heavy Dips on the dip machine, Or if you still have the strength at this point regular/weighted dips are fine as well
5. Flyes (Best for me is doing flat bench flyes like arnold did with a good stretch, followed by cable flyes) But you can pick any Flye as finisher that works best for you, pec deck is fine as well.
Pullovers are great as well, but I did not include them because it is a hard exercise to master and can be quite tricky on the joints.
Having a heavy bench doesnt really give the best chest look perse, most of my friends always start with bench press and focus a lot on getting stronger on the flat bench, however my chest looks way better than theirs, and I dont focus on flat bench, its usually 2nd or 3rd in my routine.
INCLINES are the key to that fully developed, aesthetic chest.
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09-18-2020, 03:11 PM #31
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09-18-2020, 06:37 PM #32
Exactly, I'm never going to use juice.
My perspective is that I'm 43, and 180 just might be possible over the next several years, but I won't jeapordize my health pursuing it. I don't want to be obese and unhealthy just to bench big. If it comes by the way I normally train/eat/sleep and live, then that would be awesome. But a 180 bench takes a lot of dedication which I might not be able or willing to give, to be realistic.
Taylor Atwood is lighter and smaller than me, and his 195 bench is my max deadlift.
Last December I weighed 91 and felt disgusting. But if that had been 91 kg of muscle, well then that's a different story altogether.
What's all you guys' opinions on equipment for raw benching? Do wrist wraps help that much?Once upon a time (maxes 2020) ...
Squat 185, Bench 137, DL 205, @ bw 88.5 age 43
Workout Journal: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=175647011&p=1630928323&viewfull=1#post1630928323
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09-18-2020, 07:18 PM #33
Honestly from your deadlift form check video I thought you were like 25 lol.
If you all want to use straps for the bench on the friendly competition I'm fine with that but won't be using them, myself. I have never used them on the bench and I'm not sure how much good it would do.Bench: 345
Squat: 405
Deadlift: 505
"... But always, there remained, the discipline of steel!"
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09-18-2020, 07:42 PM #34
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09-19-2020, 12:56 AM #35
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Used to use them all the time, but I was regualry participating in a martial art that involved a lot of wrist manipulation and my wrists were permanently ****ed.
These days I'm to lazy, and they don't make much difference. I do grip very internally rotated jp ish style though and that stabilises my wrist pretty well.5 day full body crew
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