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Thread: Will you get vaccinated?
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03-08-2021, 11:25 AM #421Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
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I use the gender neutral pronouns "Fukker/Fukkers" a lot.
****** I don't always agree with the memes I post ******
I tell it like it is, if you want smoke blown up your ass or something sugar coated. I suggest you get a Hooker and a powdered donut.
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03-08-2021, 11:25 AM #422
You don’t need to be fat to be strong but it helps, and it takes longer, that’s fine, loosing weight and maintaining strength is a good challenge, however on one under 200 drug free is going to put 500 overhead.
But you can’t assume a guy who’s gut is bigger than yours is always gonna be in worse cardio, the guy I spoke of earlier has done all day cardio events like you too, he holds marathon exercise records.
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03-08-2021, 11:26 AM #423
Many PEOPLE HAVE SOMETHING like a pre existing condition(diabetes, obesity, high blood pressure, cancer, auto immune disease)or some kind that they are either very aware of, or not at all aware of.
At least 100 million if you do the math and if you add up all of the sub categories of people in America, i am probably underestimating given the obesity issues.
So let's be crystal FKN clear HERE......... these people had issues ALREADY;BUT COVID KILLED THEM, NOT THE PRE EXISTING DISEASE ******WHICH THEY COULD LIVE WITH FOR YEARS TO COME.******
I don't work in the morgues of America so i cant give you an exact number, i just use these guys since they were counting from the beginning.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.htmlLast edited by x-trainer ben; 03-08-2021 at 11:36 AM.
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03-08-2021, 11:31 AM #424
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03-08-2021, 11:33 AM #425Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
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I use the gender neutral pronouns "Fukker/Fukkers" a lot.
****** I don't always agree with the memes I post ******
I tell it like it is, if you want smoke blown up your ass or something sugar coated. I suggest you get a Hooker and a powdered donut.
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03-08-2021, 11:34 AM #426
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03-08-2021, 11:36 AM #427
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03-08-2021, 11:37 AM #428
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When used in conjunction with widespread testing, contact tracing, quarantining of anyone that may be infected, hand washing, and physical distancing, face masks are a valuable tool to reduce community transmission. All of these measures, through their effect on Re, have the potential to reduce the number of infections. As governments exit lockdowns, keeping transmissions low enough to preserve health care capacity will be critical until a vaccine can be developed.
IDK, makes sense to me. I'm sure Paul and his new boyfriend will call me names now. Have it☻/
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03-08-2021, 11:44 AM #429
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No argument there. My gym is home to some of the strongest mofos out there. I once asked one of our heavy weights what it would take for me, 208lbs, to bench 405. Mind you I've benched 380 but was 242 and can currently hit 315+ paused. His answer, gain a bunch of weight and/or drugs
It's been my experience that maintaining strength at a lower BF/BW is extremely tough as a natty. I could jump my bench up 20lbs in a few weeks if I balloon up to 225. But trying to do that while slowly getting down to a 200 BJJ comp weight, no fukin way.☻/
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03-08-2021, 11:45 AM #430
Flu is very variable, a good year and bad year varies a lot, but as a 10 year average in England and Wales (these figures not including Scotland and Northern Ireland) roughly 10,000 people die from it each year. A bad year could be double, a catastrophic year could be 30,000
Covid has killed >115,000 people in England and Wales in the last 12 months
115,000 >> 10,000
Covid >> Flu
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03-08-2021, 11:49 AM #431
Exactly..pre-exsisting conditions. That’s the point. Take away comorbidities & you are left with 30,000 deaths..where are you getting millions from? Source please.
April 14th 2020 - The CDC directed all medical professionals to list ALL DEATH CASES as COVID. This was at the direction of an obscure group called CSTE (Counsel State and Territorial Epidemiologists). This gave the CDC plausible deniability.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/us-data/
https://www.cste.org/news/500750/CST...e-NNC-List.htm
The CDC already accounts for these so called “millions”.
The flu kills 60-80k a year with NO COMORBIDITIES..
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden.../2017-2018.htm
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/...deaths-winter/
330k “COVID” American deaths in 2020 (minus the 94% that had comorbidity) is 20k American deaths due to COVID without co-morbidity. 20k deaths compared to even half the 2018 influenza deaths still makes influenza far deadlier or…. COVID-19 is simply influenza rebranded with non-stop media histrionics, padded stats and inaccurate testing (PCR) which no gold standards to compare.
https://www.jems.com/coronavirus/cdc...vid-19-deaths/
And yes, the PCR test is utter bullchit. Here is Kerry Mullins (the creator of the test) explaining it is a BACTERIA test..not a viral test..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ZmZft4fXhQQ
https://mobile.twitter.com/robinmono...33369222029312
You seem like an intelligent guy..please try to have some perspective on this.
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03-08-2021, 11:54 AM #432
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03-08-2021, 11:56 AM #433
How dare you form an opinion, I’m livid right now... I don’t even— You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libellous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dystrophic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, abrasive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, and socially-retarded.
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03-08-2021, 12:02 PM #434
1. Millions with preexisting conditions existing, alive Americans
2. You cant take them out, delete or remove them, they exist and are at risk at all ages(10-99), in other words they can die too!
3. Ok so the cdc data is not 100% accurate and needs to be recounted( death rates),"April 14th 2020 - The CDC directed all medical professionals to list ALL DEATH CASES as COVID"
Now we need to know if hospitals followed that cdc guideline or ignored it due to the oath they took and integrity?
4. Again you can't remove pre existing conditions, they exist in hundreds of millions of Americans walking around.
5. So we are arguing math, and how totals are/were being calculated. We will only know the true answers when autopsy reports are recounted/audited after this ends.
what was labeled a covid death and what was not, but the issue is that we are +500,000 or plus half a million "extra deaths"
6. there are other tests, they all can't be wrong
7. you seem like an intelligent, persistent guy, please try to consider more than your own opinion regarding such a complicated complex subject.
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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03-08-2021, 12:06 PM #435
Kirk Karowski benched 405 at 17 weighing less than you as he’s like 5’8 his arms didn’t look short because he wasn’t a monster yet.
He wasn’t even close to what he was about to become in powerlifting. He was the most ripped dude in powerlifting as a HW as low as 245 to 275 and official 1000# squatter. He was asked about doing a B.B. show, he said if he had to diet anymore he’d ripp someone’s head off.
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03-08-2021, 12:07 PM #436
Did you actually read through this link?
“Cochrane (7) and the World Health Organization (8) both point out that, for population health measures, we should not generally expect to be able to find controlled trials, due to logistical and ethical reasons, and should therefore instead seek a wider evidence base”
Yeeeaaa...we’ve done that here in 2020..
Watch U.S. cases explode as masking goes from 60-70% to 90% plus in nearly all states.
https://delphi.cmu.edu/covidcast/tim...sk&level=state
From link..
“Only ONE observational study has directly analyzed the impact of mask use in the community on COVID-19 transmission. The study looked at the reduction of secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in Beijing households by face mask use (10). It found that face masks were 79% effective in preventing transmission, if they were used by all household members prior to symptoms occurring. The study did not look at the relative risk of different types of mask.”
-Secondary transmission
-Prior to symptoms
-did not look at different masks
-study comes out of where?...JUST LMAO..
This cannot be real life..this makes sense to you..?
Bro..c’mom
I mean..
C’mon man!Last edited by Paul Kreul; 03-08-2021 at 01:37 PM.
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03-08-2021, 12:26 PM #437
1.Covid requires a minimum of 2.6 comorbidities in order for it to be lethal..exactly like the flu
2.agreed
3. This is the form that was sent to hospitals..
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
“In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.”..
This is counted as a positive Covid death..the same symptoms as influenza..counted now as Covid
4.agreed
5.you are assuming those extra deaths are Covid deaths..
For every 1% unemployment increases, 30,000 deaths occur, there are dozens of studies on this..how much did unemployment increase over 2019? 10%=...300,000.
Now on top of this, a new study from the peer-reviewed Journal of American Heart Association finds over 63% of Covid hospitalizations were attributed to diabetes mellitus, heart failure, obesity and hypertension.
These conditions are, in most cases, preventable.
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full...AHA.120.019259
It's been estimated there will be an additional 1.4 million tuberculosis deaths from the disruptions caused by lockdowns, 500k additional deaths related to HIV, 335k from malaria. So from these 3 diseases alone, that's 3.2 million lockdown deaths. COVID is at 1.9 million.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/h....co/UMSXByMKox
6. Covid tests are based off PCR test, listen to Mullins the creator of the test on why this is a faulty method for viral detection
7. Have I convinced you that we are witnessing a clown show now?
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03-08-2021, 01:32 PM #438
JT here’s something you don’t know about me and rolling though.
I’m not an aggressor like say Tank Abbott he used to get winded fast because along with him being fat, he’s used to knock outs.
I’m more comfy lying on my back and holding my opponent there, basically in that position my cardio is little tested, the person on top of me is the one who expelling more energy.
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03-08-2021, 01:48 PM #439Air Force Veteran 1976 - 1999 - Cannabis Enthusiast since the 1960's
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I use the gender neutral pronouns "Fukker/Fukkers" a lot.
****** I don't always agree with the memes I post ******
I tell it like it is, if you want smoke blown up your ass or something sugar coated. I suggest you get a Hooker and a powdered donut.
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03-08-2021, 02:40 PM #440
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One can look at the numbers and realize that approximately 10% more deaths occurred due to covid vs the past 2 years.
Data is provided through the 48th week of 2020. So far this year, the CDC reports that 2,877,601 people have died. At the same point in 2018, the number was 2,606,928, and in 2019, it was 2,614,950. The number of deaths to this point in 2020 is at least 260,000 greater than either of the past two years."You know that little thing in your head that keeps you from saying things you shouldn't? Yeah, well, I don't have one of those."
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03-08-2021, 03:55 PM #441
2020 had 3.36 million deaths, 500k more than 2019.
3-4 months ago this forum was filled with people who didn’t understand CDC death tallies, trying to argue that 2020 would have similar deaths as 2019. They were not only wrong, they were really, really wrong. Not surprisingly, instead of admitting they were wrong, the narrative conveniently changed to blaming the lockdowns for all the deaths."Seen in the light of evolution, biology is, perhaps, intellectually the most satisfying and inspiring science. Without that light it becomes a pile of sundry facts -- some of them interesting or curious but making no meaningful picture as a whole."
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03-08-2021, 03:59 PM #442
Excess deaths is a good way to get the overall big picture. Also need to account for population growth, annual deaths per year typically increase as a result of consistent population growth. The high percentage of deaths in nursing homes is sad, but I think the avg life expectancy in nursing homes is something like 6 months. Being put in a nursing home, for most, is pretty near the “finish line” of life.
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03-08-2021, 04:57 PM #443
I don’t even trust those numbers though. As I mentioned above, the CDC directed all medical professionals to list all deaths cases as Covid via the CSTE..
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/us-data/
https://www.cste.org/news/500750/CST...e-NNC-List.htm
“Following new CDC guidelines: "As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement issued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease.”
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