I assume everyone will ask if I want low or high risk, I'd probably go for high risk.
Which ones would misc recommend?
reps for all, thx
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I actually spotted this one from all the talk on misc. I wondered about it but for some reason my boss was like 'nah' w/e he old
I do not see this one.. But I'm gunna be young for a while yet so I'm cool just stuffing everything into an aggressive one for now.
Well dang homie that's very insightful but this is all I got right now.
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01-17-2021, 03:13 PM #13
For retirement money, just stick it in some equivalent of VTI, VOO, or VT for equity and maybe a total bond market fund, depending on your level of risk-aversion. There's no need to overcomplicate this because historically, any of the 3 securities I mentioned have proven to compound and grow enough to help you comfortably retire. For personal investments, you can degenmaxxx or bet the farm on black, but be conservative with your retirement money IMO.
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He is not being dramatic. All the funds are sub-par compared to retail managed funds. To put this in perspective my total pre-tax networth increased 61% 2020. This is with mixed allocation, because I am older than most of you boyos.
OP, what, if any, is your company match? I would contribute that amount and nothing more. Then open an IRA with a retail broker (TD, fidelity, etc) which will give access to better funds.
When I have time later this week I will check my fidelity research portal to compare your available funds.
Edit: i just took a cursory look. it looks like you work for a SMB and your plan administrator is an outside contractor. These type of offerings are great revenue streams....for the plan administrator
Vanguard VIF Equity Index expense is extremely high for an index fund .15%. Comparable index funds are .01-.02%
The T.Rowe Blue chip is your best bet. Its a managed fund but the expenses are reasonable. Puglia is the fund manager, but his team is very good.
So my advice is still the same. Contribute up to company match and no more. If you can afford to invest more, open a retail IRA account and max it out with better funds.Last edited by RoccoSifred; 01-19-2021 at 11:57 AM.
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01-26-2021, 11:38 PM #17
I agree on the Blue chip pick, but I dont think you can recommend opening an IRA account without more info. Ie what he is going to make in a year, marginal tax rate etc. Will the 401k be ROTH or Traditional? Is he a "high income earner"?
I have access to a ROTH 401k via my employer, I max this out each year..looking for more options to stick money, I THEN opened an IRA once the 401k was maxed out, the IRA is traditional as I can not contribute to a Roth IRA due to income limits, so Trad IRA is it...You also have to consider how much he will be contributing...if he really wants to sock alot away before wife/kids he can contribute up to $19500/yr in the 401k....the IRA is limited to 6000k/yr assuming he is a W2 employee. Once those two are maxed, the next option IMO becomes an HSA if it is available as it is the only triple tax advantages vehicle.
OP if you want a choice, I would go with Blue Chips, something that tracks the SP500 with the lowest expense ratio...if unavailable I would pick the highest (longest out) target date fund and set it and forget it. If you plan to retire in 2040 for instance...but the longest target date fund is 2065...choose that one, that will give you more market exposure and less allocation to bonds etc. These also usually have very low expense ratios.
Another tip, your provider should have a rep that will explain things to you and help you set up etc. Seeking investment advice on a BB forum will get you mixed results and it really is specific to your personal situation and goals.
Disclaimer: I havent been on the MISC for probably over a decade, my first log in on a whim and I couldnt believe I remembered my password. I have been doing my own investing since I started my career out of college and it has grown to well over 7 figures."SAUDADE" P51
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