So bulking season is coming, and soon will come the onslaught of whiny little "I can't seem to get all those calories" threads. Well, I made a batch of my homemade protein bars today and sat down and figured out the calories.
#1 Here is the recipe:
16 ounces Natural peanut butter
8 tablespoons honey
six scoops of Optimum Chocolate whey protein powder
1 cup of uncooked oatmeal
Mix the pb and honey in a bowl, microwave on full for 80 secs. Add the rest and mix together. Can add raisins/nuts etc to taste. Smooth into 13x9 tray and leave for 20 mins. Cut into 10 to 12 equal bars and wrap and store in fridge.
This is a great tasting recipe that I modified from one I found on 'bolex
Now here is the breakdown on a batch of the goodies:
Protein: 254 grams
Carbohydrates: 282 grams
Fats: 236 grams
This batch gives you a whopping 4268 calories. Thats right, over 4000 Calories and 250+ grams of protein.
So, if you can't get your bulk on...I DONT WANT TO HEAR IT!!!!!!
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Thread: So you need calories???
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09-15-2002, 07:38 AM #1
So you need calories???
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09-15-2002, 07:45 AM #2
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09-15-2002, 07:50 AM #3
I hear you bro. Unfortunatly, I have learned too much in the last 3-4 months that I want to try. Leaning up...to scarecrow proportions right now, and going to try more of a 3 week short cycle approach, keeping cals high, but not insane, seeing if I can drop on 5-10 pounds each cycle and keep it nice and lean. I am trying to end my bulking/cutting days..just take it slow, and just put on quality mass while staying lean..so no more 9000 calorie days for me!
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09-15-2002, 07:55 AM #4
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09-15-2002, 08:57 AM #9
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09-15-2002, 09:13 AM #10
Re: So you need calories???
Originally posted by wardog
So bulking season is coming, and soon will come the onslaught of whiny little "I can't seem to get all those calories" threads. Well, I made a batch of my homemade protein bars today and sat down and figured out the calories.
#1 Here is the recipe:
16 ounces Natural peanut butter
8 tablespoons honey
six scoops of Optimum Chocolate whey protein powder
1 cup of uncooked oatmeal
Mix the pb and honey in a bowl, microwave on full for 80 secs. Add the rest and mix together. Can add raisins/nuts etc to taste. Smooth into 13x9 tray and leave for 20 mins. Cut into 10 to 12 equal bars and wrap and store in fridge.
This is a great tasting recipe that I modified from one I found on 'bolex
Now here is the breakdown on a batch of the goodies:
Protein: 254 grams
Carbohydrates: 282 grams
Fats: 236 grams
This batch gives you a whopping 4268 calories. Thats right, over 4000 Calories and 250+ grams of protein.
So, if you can't get your bulk on...I DONT WANT TO HEAR
IT!!!!!!
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09-15-2002, 09:14 AM #11
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09-15-2002, 09:29 AM #12
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09-15-2002, 09:34 AM #13
Re: Re: So you need calories???
Originally posted by Baggio20
So how much is it in each bar ??? and 1/3 fat in there ? is'nt that too much ?
All depends on how you look at it bro. The natural PB gives you some nice healthy fats (and some not so great ones I guess)
I have played with my diet for years, and I found that when I bulk, I can eat whatever I want up to 6:00. After that I can't do carbs or it goes to my waistline.
When your bulking...most eat whoppers, big Macs, etc..to get enough calories. I just feel this is a bit of a "cleaner" alternative. You can certainly argue the amount of fat in it..then just cut it down to 8 oz penut butter, and perhaps more honey. Higher carbs, lower fat. It is simply meant to be a caloricly dense food, which has high protein, and you can take anywhere with you.Last edited by wardog; 09-15-2002 at 09:37 AM.
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09-15-2002, 09:35 AM #14
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09-15-2002, 09:51 AM #15
Thanks Wardog
Thanks sounds like a good staple as well.
You ought to compile a compilation of goodies and print a book. "Wardogs Recipes to a Leaner Meaner You!" $25.00 paperback.JMB 7th S.F.G.A.
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09-15-2002, 10:04 AM #16
Re: Thanks Wardog
Originally posted by Carnivore
Thanks sounds like a good staple as well.
You ought to compile a compilation of goodies and print a book. "Wardogs Recipes to a Leaner Meaner You!" $25.00 paperback.
So..cutting, I am no expert. Now bulking..THAT I could write a book on..lol!LG Sciences
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09-15-2002, 11:12 AM #17
Re: Re: Thanks Wardog
Originally posted by wardog
LMAO..leaner and meaner..my cutting programs would probably scare the hell out of most people here..I am usually quite unorthodox, and do not follow many of the diet tips that really are gospel. I rely on a caloric deficit, and really just eat a big meal first thing in the morning (approx 1000 cal) a smaller meal at lunch (approx 500 cal) and about 250 cal at 6:00 and thats it. I just worry about protein intake, and dont really bother worrying about carbs and fats in their ratios. My lunch may actually be a 6 pack of chicken Mc Nuggets. It allows me to not feel like I am dieting to death and get bored and binge. If I am craving something, I just have it in the morning. That may include pizza..lol! Aside from that I like on diet pepsi and crystal lite. Probably 4 litres of diet pepsi, and a gallon of crystal lite (raspberry flavor) in a day.
So..cutting, I am no expert. Now bulking..THAT I could write a book on..lol!
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09-15-2002, 12:47 PM #18
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09-15-2002, 12:51 PM #19
Re: Re: Re: Thanks Wardog
Originally posted by cjszip
that's bad... lol...
-cj
Think about it a minute...a multi or two provides your vitamins, you get your protein, and you have a caloric deficit. Really, what more do you need? Okay, you may say I eat a good amount of unhealthy fats eating things like McNuggets and Pizza on occasion (certainly not every day) but if I am operating at a caloric deficit, my body must burn those fats for energy.
True, doing it "perfectly" may result in faster weight loss..I am honestly not sure, yet if you diet "perfectly" and cheat 3 days in a week due to cravings, how much more effective is it really? I can have anything I want..it just has to be earlier in the day. I dont have to worry about cravings..if I want a frosted donut, I have it in the morning with a protein shake. Evenings are hard the first 3-4 days, but you learn to drink a lot, and it all works. After 6 is when I switch to the crystal light so I do not have caffeine keeping me up all night.
It really is kind of simple. Will it work for everybody..I dont know. It does work for me very well tho, the only thing that was more effective ever (seemingly) was a keto diet. What I found with that tho was it tended to make me drop 10 pounds of water weight in the first week and a half...and as soon as I went off the diet, it came back..so it is really an "illusionary" weight loss in a sense, in terms of how fast a keto diet really is. I am not saying it isnt effective, just illusiory in its initial effects. With my diet, I don't have those situations..what I lose is what I lose.LG Sciences
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09-15-2002, 01:08 PM #20
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09-15-2002, 01:19 PM #21Originally posted by Georgeshocker
Hey, Wardog. Awesome recipe! What supps do u take during your bulking cycle?
Other than that, I will buy a 100 gram container of creatine, and toss it in with each 5 pound jug of optimum protein. Just toss it in and shake it up. I figure I go thru a jug in about 20 days, so thats approx 5 grams of creatine a day. I have a seperate jug of protein for my recipe.
So, natural bulking, I guess just protein, a multi, and creatine.
Cycle wise..I throw the kitchen sink at it post-cycle to get the "boys" back up and running as soon as it is physically possible..lol! The sooner they are running, the more gains you keep.LG Sciences
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09-15-2002, 01:20 PM #22
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09-15-2002, 04:08 PM #24
I agree jweave, I am in business, and my job often requires business lunches and the like. Going out to a fancy italian place..doesnt leave much room for a keto diet..so I had to adjust my diet to correspond with my work life. Make me independantly wealthy, and I will follow everything perfectly. Until that time comes..I have to adjust.
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09-15-2002, 05:38 PM #25
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09-15-2002, 06:39 PM #27
Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanks Wardog
Originally posted by wardog
Whats so bad about it dear? Higher calories in the AM..when you have all day to burn them off, at least 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, and the rest is really minutia.
Think about it a minute...a multi or two provides your vitamins, you get your protein, and you have a caloric deficit. Really, what more do you need? Okay, you may say I eat a good amount of unhealthy fats eating things like McNuggets and Pizza on occasion (certainly not every day) but if I am operating at a caloric deficit, my body must burn those fats for energy.
True, doing it "perfectly" may result in faster weight loss..I am honestly not sure, yet if you diet "perfectly" and cheat 3 days in a week due to cravings, how much more effective is it really? I can have anything I want..it just has to be earlier in the day. I dont have to worry about cravings..if I want a frosted donut, I have it in the morning with a protein shake. Evenings are hard the first 3-4 days, but you learn to drink a lot, and it all works. After 6 is when I switch to the crystal light so I do not have caffeine keeping me up all night.
It really is kind of simple. Will it work for everybody..I dont know. It does work for me very well tho, the only thing that was more effective ever (seemingly) was a keto diet. What I found with that tho was it tended to make me drop 10 pounds of water weight in the first week and a half...and as soon as I went off the diet, it came back..so it is really an "illusionary" weight loss in a sense, in terms of how fast a keto diet really is. I am not saying it isnt effective, just illusiory in its initial effects. With my diet, I don't have those situations..what I lose is what I lose.
-cj
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09-15-2002, 07:13 PM #28
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