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    My Methyl 1-Test Experience

    Here is the start of my 4 week M1T cycle. I will be doing 10mg for 2 weeks, with 2 weeks off, and another 2 weeks at 10mg. I will be using Nolva for pct.

    Weeks 1-2: M1t 10mg a day
    Weeks 3-4: Nolva 40mg a day
    Weeks 5-6: M1t 10mg a day
    Weeks 7-8: Nolva 40mg a day
    Weeks 9-10: Nolva 20mg a day



    I will also be using the following supplements for liver protection and to keep my bp down.

    Coq10
    Hawthorne Berry
    Saw Palmetto
    NAC
    Milk Thistle (off cycle only)



    Here are my stats:

    Height: 5'10"
    Weight: 181
    BF: Unknown, Estimating 10%
    Waist: 33"

    Been training for 2 1/2 years, seriously for the past 8 months. Do an intense 5 day split (Mon-Fri). I don't do cardio but I do rollerblade & play basketball/tennis on my off days (Sat & Sun). I will not be changing the volume of my workouts so changes from my cycle will be from the m1t alone.

    As far as food intake, I don't count calories. I drink 4 shakes a day with oatmeal, and eat 3-4 regular meals as well. My PW shake is ON 100% Whey and my other shakes are 1/2 ON Whey & 1/2 Milk Protein Isolate all with 1/2 cup of ground oatmeal.

    I am currently bulking. Not super clean, but I am semi-strict about what I eat. I will NOT be altering my diet so changes from my cycle will be from the m1t alone.

    I weigh myself every morning before my workout at the same time, so weight fluctuation should not be an issue. I will post before & after pictures to show you the visible changes that m1t makes to my body. I will also post pictures several weeks after the cycle to show how much of my gains were kept/lost. I will update this thread every week day since I have a computer job. I will not be updating on the weekends.

    I will be taking my m1t every day at the same time (1 hour after my workout).

    Wish me luck.
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    Good luck man. I have a similar build to you and am about to do a M1T cycle in a few weeks, so I am very interested in how it works out for you.
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    bro start taking periactin to fight the appetite suppression


    evryone has been blaming M1T for appetite suppression hindering their gains,

    start periactin 1 week before your cycle (just to get used to the fatigue which goes after 3-4 days) then start the M1T.



    a bulking cycle on roids without taking enough calories is not a bulking cycle
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    Thanks for the tip. If appetite surpression becomes a problem I will pick some up.
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    Day One:

    Had my arm workout at 7am. Got into work at 9am and immediately took my first 10mg dose. I took my hawthorne berry, nac, coq10, saw palmetto, and a multivitamin at lunch.

    It's 4:30pm now, and I feel lethargic, but I didn't get great sleep last night so I can't be sure if it's attributed to the m1t. I have read of people having to urinate alot while on m1t. I have used the bathroom TWELVE TIMES today already. Granted I did drink 3 liters of water, but I drink the same amount every day and have never had to use the bathroom this much.

    I have my chest workout tomorrow morning and I'm so excited.

    I will post pictures tonight to show my current build.
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    i experienced the pissing too. Only for the first couple of days though. Also you may want to use some chapstick at night if your a mouth breather. i got the worst cotton mouth ever (at night) when on this. i would wake up with blood on my front teeth, my mouth had dried out so bad. Also had heard any complaints from people about itching. my friend and i got the worst case of itches the week we got off. Good luck to you bro.
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    good luck,


    a lot of people have reported lethargy and the need of sleep few hours after taking the pill
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    Originally posted by exhortae
    good luck,


    a lot of people have reported lethargy and the need of sleep few hours after taking the pill
    that's why i took the pill in the morning. my job doesn't require much physical energy so if i'm tired it doesn't really matter. it's 9:10pm now and i feel fine.
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    Since you don't count calories, can you establish for us a baseline weight gain? How much do you gain per 2 weeks on average bulking w/o supps?

    Best of luck.
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    Originally posted by ke0
    that's why i took the pill in the morning. my job doesn't require much physical energy so if i'm tired it doesn't really matter. it's 9:10pm now and i feel fine.
    it's only been one day, lethargy takes a few days to kick in. good luck with everything, and even though your aren't really counting how much you are taking in, try to get at least 300 grams of protein.
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    Originally posted by Dan Padavona
    Ke0-

    Since you don't count calories, can you establish for us a baseline weight gain? How much do you gain per 2 weeks on average bulking w/o supps?

    Best of luck.
    well i had been gaining about 2-3 lbs per month while only using creatine & protein. i have plateaud for the past 1 1/2 months staying at about 180-185.
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    Originally posted by buddha
    it's only been one day, lethargy takes a few days to kick in. good luck with everything, and even though your aren't really counting how much you are taking in, try to get at least 300 grams of protein.
    i get 160g of protein from my shakes alone. from regular food i get about another 150.
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    Originally posted by ke0
    Thanks for the tip. If appetite surpression becomes a problem I will pick some up.
    I had serious appetite supression from M1T
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    Originally posted by buddha
    it's only been one day, lethargy takes a few days to kick in.
    Thats what I experienced. After 4 or 5 days I noticed it
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    forgot to add the pic to the last post. this 65 second rule is annoying.
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    forgot to add the pic to the last post. this 65 second rule is annoying.
    Looking pretty good bro. Best of luck
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    interesting. I got what is probably a stupid question... Is nolva available OTC?
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    Originally posted by ke0
    here are pics as promised

    is it acne on your back,

    if it is it would be nice to know if it got worsened with M1T, just to get an idea of androgenic sides.
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    Originally posted by exhortae
    is it acne on your back,

    if it is it would be nice to know if it got worsened with M1T, just to get an idea of androgenic sides.
    I had an increase in acne when taking M1T with 4AD

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    Day Two:

    yea i do have a small bit of acne on my back. i will report if it worsens because of m1t.

    i got alot of good sleep last night. went to bed at 10, got up at 7. i had a good chest workout, nothing out of the ordinary though. i weighed 179.5 right before i worked out. so i lost 2.5 lbs since the day before. my weight fluctuates alot so i'm not worried.

    i took my 2nd 10mg dose at 9:30. nothing new to report.
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    Originally posted by ke0
    so i lost 2.5 lbs since the day before. my weight fluctuates alot so i'm not worried.
    make sure you are drinking enough water. If you lost weight from the day before it could be lost water. That is if you know you are still eating enough.
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    Originally posted by kj2833
    make sure you are drinking enough water. If you lost weight from the day before it could be lost water. That is if you know you are still eating enough.
    i drink over 2 gallons a day of water, so i know it's not that. and my diet has been excellent, so i'm not sure what it could be.
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    Woke up at 6:45 this morning. Didn't sleep very well but got alot of it. Got to the gym at 7 and weighed in at 182.9. I feel and look bigger. Mind you I weigh myself 15 minutes after I wake up. My scale at home is broken, but when it worked I would weigh on average 5 lbs more at the end of the day than when I woke up. So I'm pretty sure after a full day of binging on lean meats and protein shakes I'd be ~185-187.

    I worked back today and had a pretty bad workout. Felt sluggish and weak. Strength wasn't great and I just felt tired. I almost ended it short but managed to push through till the end. I can't be sure to attribute this to the m1t, but I haven't had that bad of a workout in quite some time. I was jittery afterwards and felt a little sick, but I feel fine now.

    I am almost regretting doing this cycle now, because from some of the logs I've read, weight skyrockets but strength only increases slightly. I have a few friends that have done test/dbol cycles and their experiences while on cycle have been completely different from m1t. Insane energy and pumps in the gym, strength & lean mass go through the roof, and appetite is exponentially increased. M1t users usually report being lethargic, tired, and sluggish, report bloating and only slight strength increases, and severe appetite surpression. This will most likely be my last m1t cycle, especially if the sides are as bad as some have reported.

    I think my bad workout day is getting to my head and hopefully it will be better tomorrow.
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    Originally posted by ke0
    Woke up at 6:45 this morning. Didn't sleep very well but got alot of it. Got to the gym at 7 and weighed in at 182.9. I feel and look bigger. Mind you I weigh myself 15 minutes after I wake up. My scale at home is broken, but when it worked I would weigh on average 5 lbs more at the end of the day than when I woke up. So I'm pretty sure after a full day of binging on lean meats and protein shakes I'd be ~185-187.

    I worked back today and had a pretty bad workout. Felt sluggish and weak. Strength wasn't great and I just felt tired. I almost ended it short but managed to push through till the end. I can't be sure to attribute this to the m1t, but I haven't had that bad of a workout in quite some time. I was jittery afterwards and felt a little sick, but I feel fine now.

    I am almost regretting doing this cycle now, because from some of the logs I've read, weight skyrockets but strength only increases slightly. I have a few friends that have done test/dbol cycles and their experiences while on cycle have been completely different from m1t. Insane energy and pumps in the gym, strength & lean mass go through the roof, and appetite is exponentially increased. M1t users usually report being lethargic, tired, and sluggish, report bloating and only slight strength increases, and severe appetite surpression. This will most likely be my last m1t cycle, especially if the sides are as bad as some have reported.

    I think my bad workout day is getting to my head and hopefully it will be better tomorrow.
    Are you stacking m1t with 4-ad to combat some of the sides? Or is this stack not recommended for some reason?
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    I am almost regretting doing this cycle now, because from some of the logs I've read, weight skyrockets but strength only increases slightly. I have a few friends that have done test/dbol cycles and their experiences while on cycle have been completely different from m1t. Insane energy and pumps in the gym, strength & lean mass go through the roof, and appetite is exponentially increased. M1t users usually report being lethargic, tired, and sluggish, report bloating and only slight strength increases, and severe appetite surpression. This will most likely be my last m1t cycle, especially if the sides are as bad as some have reported.

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    Maybe you should have read the logs before you took it then.....

    Anyway, give it some time and see how you react.
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    Originally posted by bgzee
    Are you stacking m1t with 4-ad to combat some of the sides? Or is this stack not recommended for some reason?
    No, I'm not taking 4ad. I wanted to make an accurate thread of my gains on m1t alone. I also did not want the "bloat" 4ad causes, although users are reporting bloat even on m1t alone.
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