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    Is anyone else noticing a drop in quality as of late with your favorite breweries?
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Is anyone else noting a drop in quality as of late with your favorite breweries?
    I've noticed alot more generic tasting beers. What really annoys me is all the hazy IPA's on the market. I love the style, but way too many and 90% are garbage. Also, here in western Washington/Seattle, there is a HUGE surge in Pilsners being brewed. I have no idea why, especially in the winter time. I would like to see more darker lager styles being brewed like Dunkel's and Bock's.
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    With some breweries, yes. I’ve been lucky to still have Burial killing it with their ipas and stouts still. But lately some normally good breweries seem watery. My guess is popularity created larger batches that watered down the product.
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Is anyone else noting a drop in quality as of late with your favorite breweries?
    Yes sir, flavors seem to be getting watered down and quality is dropping.
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    Had a bottle of Main Brewing Mean Old Tom, stout aged in vanilla beans, no vanilla detected and the stout was meh.
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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    With some breweries, yes. I’ve been lucky to still have Burial killing it with their ipas and stouts still. But lately some normally good breweries seem watery. My guess is popularity created larger batches that watered down the product.
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    Yes sir, flavors seem to be getting watered down and quality is dropping.
    Yep, an increase in sales usually means a negative impact on taste buds
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    Had a bottle of Main Brewing Mean Old Tom, stout aged in vanilla beans, no vanilla detected and the stout was meh.
    Have you had a chance to try Troy's new beer 8 yet?
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    Have you had a chance to try Troy's new beer 8 yet?
    No sir, I have not.
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    What is your opinion on pastry stouts and smoothie-style sours?
    At one of the local beer stores, pretty much those two styles and IPA's are only in their refrigerators.
    How are they different from regular stouts/Imperial stouts?
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    Originally Posted by Kiefer 2004 View Post
    What is your opinion on pastry stouts and smoothie-style sours?
    At one of the local beer stores, pretty much those two styles and IPA's are only in their refrigerators.
    How are they different from regular stouts/Imperial stouts?
    Smoothie sours are made with unfermented fruit which will explode the can if it hits room temp for too long. So they need to be in the cooler for sure. I had one explode once, not pretty. The entire top of the can blew upward and I had to repaint my ceiling.

    I am guessing the ipas are there cold because they sell well. Pastry stouts can have milk, cream and other ingredients that hold the flavor better if kept cold.
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    I had one explode once, not pretty. The entire top of the can blew upward and I had to repaint my ceiling.

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    Molson Coors' branding infringes Stone Brewing's "Stone" trademark, the jury said after a three-week trial. It also found that Molson Coors did not infringe purposefully.
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    you stupid fukk.
    Right? I was thinking that myself. True story and it was a can that didn’t have a warning like their others.
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    https://www.reuters.com/legal/transa...ry-2022-03-25/

    I knew there was a lawsuit, I had no idea it was for that much money.
    I never drink Stone anymore.
    Damn 56 million. I can see how people get Keystone and Stone confused, not serious.

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    SAN FRANCISCO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sapporo U.S.A., maker of the number one selling Asian beer brand in the United States, and Stone Brewing, one of America’s largest and most innovative craft beer brands, have reached an agreement for Sapporo U.S.A. to acquire Stone Brewing. Supporting both business’ long-term growth strategies in the U.S. market, the transaction is expected to close in August 2022.
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    https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...-Stone-Brewing

    I'm kind of surprised they haven't been bought out sooner.
    I'm drinking more wine and whiskey these days than beer.
    Wow. They operate in my state. I like Sapporo too but that's kind of unfortunate.
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    Originally Posted by Kiefer 2004 View Post
    https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...-Stone-Brewing

    I'm kind of surprised they haven't been bought out sooner.
    I'm drinking more wine and whiskey these days than beer.
    I read about that as well and Modern Times was bought as well but it's being disputed right now.

    I'm with you, I've been drinking more wine and whiskey these days. I do enjoy a good beer on tap when I'm out but I don't buy that many at all. Last 6 pk I bought was Avery Kaiser last year.
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    I read about that as well and Modern Times was bought as well but it's being disputed right now.

    I'm with you, I've been drinking more wine and whiskey these days. I do enjoy a good beer on tap when I'm out but I don't buy that many at all. Last 6 pk I bought was Avery Kaiser last year.
    I have a new supervisor at work and her and her husband make homemade wine.
    They've invited me to dinner before having food cooked with wine too. Really good stuff.
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    The craft beer scene in Chicago was literally out of control two years ago, now it seems to be stuck in reverse
    Craft beers glory days are behind us. IMO, from here on out it'll be slow trickle new breweries opening, coming to new markets and beer trends will not move so rapidly. Older established breweries are selling aka Stone and others. Their fight to remain relevant and keep up their energy has fizzled or it's fizzled to me. Any idea what the next beer trend will be or what the emerging one is? We've had the Westy 12 Trappist hay days that progressed to stouts, barrel aged stouts, adjunct barrel aged stouts, sours, hazy ipa's and smoothie beers. What's next?
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    Originally Posted by icetrauma View Post
    Craft beers glory days are behind us. IMO, from here on out it'll be slow trickle new breweries opening, coming to new markets and beer trends will not move so rapidly. Older established breweries are selling aka Stone and others. Their fight to remain relevant and keep up their energy has fizzled or it's fizzled to me. Any idea what the next beer trend will be or what the emerging one is? We've had the Westy 12 Trappist hay days that progressed to stouts, barrel aged stouts, adjunct barrel aged stouts, sours, hazy ipa's and smoothie beers. What's next?
    Good question, I have noticed an increase with Pilsners as of late but maybe this is due to summer
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Good question, I have noticed an increase with Pilsners as of late but maybe this is due to summer
    I'm already seeing adds for Oktoberfest beers. Founders is advertising a barrel aged one this season. Pilsners/lighter styles are seeing a little up tick bus as you said, it could be due to summer time.

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    Cold IPA's were big for a second now I rarely see them.
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    Cold IPA's? Please elaborate, haven't heard of that one.
    IPA but brewed with lager yeast.
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    Originally Posted by Kiefer 2004 View Post
    IPA but brewed with lager yeast.
    Thank ya, never had one.
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    IPA but brewed with lager yeast.
    Then it's an IPP. Fuk whoever tried calling it a cold ale. There's already a name for that.
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