Misc Firearms Crew LXXIX: Tax Stamps, Background Checks, and Mag Caps

[rootcon]

The jury found that he had not broken the law, because he didn't. That case is not in any way what a person should expect from the court system if they violate the straw purchase laws.

It's hard to conjecture what SCOTUS would rule regarding a pistol brace in 2014 because they hadn't truly hit the stage yet at that time.

Wasn't that the case where he argued he had letters from the ATF saying it was ok, but the ATF said a letter only applies to that person and can't infer legal standing?

[JChippy]

I haven’t had Yukon Jack since high school. Good times.


Morning, MFC.

Morning,

yukon jack sounds like a nice fellow

[Farley1324]

Wasn't that the case where he argued he had letters from the ATF saying it was ok, but the ATF said a letter only applies to that person and can't infer legal standing?

Not really, no. It was about a 100% combat disabled veteran Marine who "modified" a pistol brace.

Kelland Wright

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com...ol-brace-case/

"The case turned on the fact that Wright had loosely affixed the rubber tip from a walking cane to the base of his cheek rest, ostensibly so the gun wouldn’t fall over in his gun safe."

"The government alleged the addition of the cane tip constituted a redesign of the brace, allowing firing from the shoulder."



And this has exactly jack all to do with violating straw purchase law

[taf1968]

From the "Movies big stars would like to forget they ever made" dept . . . Volunteers is coming up on HBO in 20 mins.

[rootcon]

Not really, no. It was about a 100% combat disabled veteran Marine who "modified" a pistol brace.

Kelland Wright

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com...ol-brace-case/

"The case turned on the fact that Wright had loosely affixed the rubber tip from a walking cane to the base of his cheek rest, ostensibly so the gun wouldn’t fall over in his gun safe."

"The government alleged the addition of the cane tip constituted a redesign of the brace, allowing firing from the shoulder."

And this has exactly jack all to do with violating straw purchase law

I was correct. This case determined that ATF letters are not a defense if they are not specifically written to the defendant https://princelaw.files.wordpress.co...rminations.pdf

[rootcon]

This thing looks like something off the shelf at walmart. Even has a plastic bayonet. Oh well, its getting put on.

[Farley1324]

I was correct. This case determined that ATF letters are not a defense if they are not specifically written to the defendant https://princelaw.files.wordpress.co...rminations.pdf

I guess that also happened in the case. That of course isn't how or why the defendant won, especially since that went against him yet he won anyway.



...and this has what to do with breaking the straw purchase law?

[OfficerJimLahey]

Think of the ammo costs though

there is that

I haven’t had Yukon Jack since high school. Good times.


Morning, MFC.

haven't had yukon jack since college. one night some guy that fell asleep at the bar woke up and showed a few of us how to light it on fire in your mouth. what could go wrong?

[RThoe]

**** the ATF

Also **** BLM too, those people are pricks.

[rectifryer]

Still fukkin amazes me there's an entire org out there just for arresting people for chit that is legal to use, ie alcohol, tobacco, firearms. The DEA already exists. Police are already around.

I know the ATF also issues interpretations of law, but why are they ALSO a police agency? Makes no sense.

Its a combination of legislation AND judicial authority and I think that's dangerous.

[rootcon]

I guess that also happened in the case. That of course isn't how or why the defendant won, especially since that went against him yet he won anyway.



...and this has what to do with breaking the straw purchase law?

Not much other than I handed you a L

[rootcon]

Still fukkin amazes me there's an entire org out there just for arresting people for chit that is legal to use, ie alcohol, tobacco, firearms. The DEA already exists. Police are already around.

I know the ATF also issues interpretations of law, but why are they ALSO a police agency? Makes no sense.

Its a combination of legislation AND judicial authority and I think that's dangerous.

There's an agency for pretty much every topic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

[Farley1324]

Not much other than I handed you a L

Whatever you need to tell yourself lol

[DualRectifier]

From the "Movies big stars would like to forget they ever made" dept . . . Volunteers is coming up on HBO in 20 mins.

Hanks made some stinkers in the 80s. I guess they were capitalizing on the Hanks/Candy chemistry from Splash a couple years before but damn did that movie suck. Including Hanks' soon to be wife as the romantic female lead doesn't help, especially when she has a face like a catcher's mitt. But there was a good homage to Bridge on the River Kwai at least.

[CdtCox]

Not sure I’d want a defense attorney bringing up that I used “controlled chaos” bullets

[Rajeev762x39]

Anyone watch Greyhound?

[OfficerJimLahey]

Anyone watch Greyhound?

It was alright. I wouldn't watch it again.

[taf1968]

Anyone watch Greyhound?

Yup. It was pretty good . . . but I like almost anything WWII related.

The sound effects when the U-boats appeared were a little gimmicky, but still worth a watch, IMHO.

[RThoe]

Probably won't find too many interested in this, but this ten minute climbing video is pretty ****in intense. Probably the rawest climbing video I've seen.

[JChippy]

Probably won't find too many interested in this, but this ten minute climbing video is pretty ****in intense. Probably the rawest climbing video I've seen.

when the climb will take more than 1 day to summit and back down, too rough for me. anything can happen

[rootcon]

Whatever you need to tell yourself lol

You win pretty much every argument so I gotta celebrate when I get one

[gbullock32]

Anyone watch Greyhound?

I enjoyed it, but so unrealistic it was funny. Submarine surfacing to broadside a destroyer? Ok then.

[gbullock32]

https://www.militaryshooters.com/fio...0-rds?___SID=U

Almost tempting just because it's subsonic.

[OfficerJimLahey]

https://www.militaryshooters.com/fio...0-rds?___SID=U

Almost tempting just because it's subsonic.

what a world we live in

[gbullock32]

what a world we live in

I live in a world of denial and alcohol. Pretty fun to be honest.

[keyboardworkout]

Friend sent me a pic of his pupper this morning.

[OfficerJimLahey]

^^pup looks ready to oper8

he could really do a much better job of matching colors between the pup and gun though. not srs.

[OfficerJimLahey]

I live in a world of denial and alcohol. Pretty fun to be honest.

you ever see any former inmates out in public?

[gbullock32]

you ever see any former inmates out in public?

From time to time, a handful live in town which is funny. Never had any problems though, just an awkward look then we just ignore each other.

Funny story from last night. We had a guy paroling out of the building I count, so I need to wake him up at 0430 to be ready for when the 0500 count clears, then he will be escorted to Receive and Release to do the paperwork, ect.

I'm a dick, so I woke him up at 0015, on my first count and told him "Hey, you know you parole in the morning? Cool, be ready at 0500 and we will escort you to D yard (we are on A yard); we need to quarantine you for 2 weeks before we can release you due to covid, it's a new policy. So you stay in D 5 until then"

He goes "Aww, what? My family is coming today, can I call them?"

Told him "Nope, sucks for them, and you, but whatever, be ready at 0500."

Let him sit there all butt hurt for the night, and at 0500 we took him to R&R and told him when we got there I was fcking with him. Got called a douchebag and laughed at him when I walked out.

I love doing that tio all the parolees. Funny reactions.

[CdtCox]

Wtf is wrong with you?