Viraloid

[wf2tm51]

Has anyone used viraloid by vyo-tech, and if so does it live up to its claims?

[Eric Burton]

Don't buy it. It's a scam.

[wf2tm51]

thats enough said, thanks!

[Nick Nitty]

Are all the vyo-tech products like this, because was thinking of tryin their nitrobolic too. Damn, scams really ruin my day, but at least i waited before buying this one

[Lok7y]

It is definitely a scam. I'd never even heard of it until somebody brought it to my attention today. I looked it up and it's clear it is a snake-oil product.

This is the link to a discussion of the supplement where it's creator explains the science behind the product: http://www.personal-training.com.au/...98&whichpage=1

(note: I don't actually recommend reading the whole thing, unless you just want to for a laugh. The more you know about science and physiology, the more hilarious you will find this, I assure you).

This is its creator's explanation for how the product works:

It agonises cortisol receptors in the same way stanazolol does leading to an increase in luteinising hormone and an upregulation in the number of androgenic receptor sites.

This is literally just being made up. This is utterly erroneous and false. Antagonizing the GR (glucocorticoid receptor--what cortisol binds to) is not going to influence LH levels in any way. LH levels are a product of GnRH being released from the pitituary, which goes to the leydig cells in the testes to synthesize LH & FSH, which then prompts sex-steroid synthesis.

Unless he's altering activity in the brain, pitituary, or directly in the testes, there is no way he's increasing LH levels, especially not via glucocorticoid antagonism (a la winstrol, by binding to the GR).

Also the rest of his write-up is exceedingly lacking in good valid data. And the fact that he references one single rat study on winstrol, without backing up any of his other claims should be cause for concern. I don't even see proof anywhere that viraloid antagonizes or binds to the GR. Also, GR interaction is not going to do anything whatsoever to the androgen receptor. This guy seems to literally be pulling BS psedo-science out of his ass.

Also, the fact that he is trying to compare a saponin (Viraloid) to a methylated anabolic steroid (Winstrol/stanazlol) is kind of, umm..., I don't even want to say it. He is essentially claiming that by taking the 'sugars' off it, he is methylating it and rendering it immune to hepatic first-pass metabolism. HOW???

Due to the structure relationships with Methandriol (discussed above), it is a feasible hypothesis that the VIRALOID™, (or TA once stripped of its sugar groups (glucopyranosyl and ramnose)) similar activity will be seen. Anecdotal and initial trialing has confirmed that indeed anabolic actions are present and unlike Anabolic Steroids, more potent synthetic cousins, little to no side effect, other than an increase in libido and in some cases sleeplessness and increased aggression, is seen. Overall an increase in muscle weight, strength and a decrease in visceral body fat were noticed.

HUGE red flag right here. If this product did what he was claiming, it would be INCREASING visceral fat and reducing SUBCUTANEOUS fat.

Then he claims that it is not protodiascin (which is what's in Tribulus and converts to DHEA), and then references a Tribulus/protodiascin study????

I implore you, do not buy this product. It is a complete scam.

[Eric Burton]

thats enough said, thanks!

You're welcome.