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  • Yup you’ll stall faster that way.

    Yup you’ll stall faster that way.
  • Once you’re done cutting and you’ve stalled try...

    Once you’re done cutting and you’ve stalled try dropping the weight 20 percent. Get in a small surplus and work back up. I think the upper lower is good.
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    I was only talking about bodybuilding. When...

    I was only talking about bodybuilding. When frequency gets stupid volume and intensity will take a hit over time. That’s why programs like dog crap training, 5/3/1 bbb, GBR etc have been around for...
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    It’s not comparable just because the amount of...

    It’s not comparable just because the amount of days are the same. The volume per workout and intensity are lower but the frequency is insane. One is twice per week frequency and the other is 5. Like...
  • Intermediate. You'll burn out fast on novice...

    Intermediate. You'll burn out fast on novice progression. Your diet is likely the problem. Are you enough enough?
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    The new lower day felt good. I started very light...

    The new lower day felt good. I started very light on the RDL and form came back quick.


    Lower B
    Leg press 340
    RDL 185
    Leg ext 60
    Leg curl 50
    Calfs 440
    Abs
  • https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=16...

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166216941&page=1

    This should help and give you more to work with.
  • You were on the right track. I wanted to clean up...

    You were on the right track. I wanted to clean up the amount of pressing to avoid shoulder issues. How does this look to you? I think there is enough rear delt work where you don't need a lateral and...
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    Upper b Incline press 175 Pendlay row 135...

    Upper b
    Incline press 175
    Pendlay row 135
    Chest flies 40
    Lat pull down 120
    Tri press down 110
    Face pull 50
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    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=17...

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=172565211

    boom.
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    I'm on board with any reasonable split honestly....

    I'm on board with any reasonable split honestly. I don't train with a UL+PPL split but I don't hate it. I think that if a split like that keeps someone consistent its a great idea as long as they are...
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    As far as days per week? Yes

    As far as days per week? Yes
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    No it does work. Is it the most effective way to...

    No it does work. Is it the most effective way to train? IMO no

    Fb is not extreme if done 3 days a week. Yes 5 days is extreme imo.

    Your second day is pretty much an upper day.
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    As others have said you don't need an advanced...

    As others have said you don't need an advanced split. I know guys with 5+ years training and they don't even use a PPL.
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    I get that but my point is that if you train hard...

    I get that but my point is that if you train hard (squat heavy in this example) twice per week you don't need that much frequency. When you crank up the frequency your intensity suffers compared to...
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    Hes def not making up work outs but I don't know...

    Hes def not making up work outs but I don't know what his definition of FB is lol. Its kind of the same type of agenda as what these guys did with the volume studies. I think they are trying to push...
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    I also wanted to add that i'm not sure why so...

    I also wanted to add that i'm not sure why so many people think natural bodybuilders train with such a low frequency. Every natural bodybuilder from 3DMJ that I follow either runs an U/L or PPL...
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    I run an upper/lower split and i'm over the 3/4/5...

    I run an upper/lower split and i'm over the 3/4/5 plate standard. Seems to be working well. I don't feel like I need to split it up anymore than that. Full body would be a lot though.
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    He defended bro splits for a while as well. Now...

    He defended bro splits for a while as well. Now hes back to the other extreme. Typical.



    Not really sure. I don't think a muscle group will ever need a full 7 days to recover.
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    I’m considering doing a leg press/RDL combo for...

    I’m considering doing a leg press/RDL combo for lower B. The sled leg press at my new gym is awesome. I’ll also be able to get through the workouts faster vs squats.
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