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  • I would love in, i was a lifter and used C4 for...

    I would love in, i was a lifter and used C4 for awhile, but due to injury took a long break. Just gotten back into it recently and have tried a handful of pre's to mixed result.
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    im a big fan of flood. ive sued c4 in the past,...

    im a big fan of flood. ive sued c4 in the past, and ive tried jym, my friend swears by it. personally of the 3 i like flood, if you want something a bit stronger JYM is, but it really depends on if...
  • Read the stickies, but honestly still confused.

    I tried a 'keto type' diet before, reading stickies i believe i was more on just a high-protein low carb diet, But i got really bad brain fog, and did not realize it would eventually pass as my body...
  • not trying to argue, but everyone has agreed...

    not trying to argue, but everyone has agreed 'clean' eating is vague and has no 'real' definition. so why argue with how i choose to define it personally. I think you are more connected to the fact i...
  • well you might want to talk with the PT more...

    well you might want to talk with the PT more indepth, as you've said you only talked to them 'briefly'. i would definately run everything through your doctors, restrictions im sure very based on how...
  • you are saying the same thing as i am, i am...

    you are saying the same thing as i am, i am saying the same thing you are, you are literally complaining about 'phrasing'
    but if you want to act like you know more then everyone else, despite us...
  • but again i said that my definition of clean was ...

    but again i said that my definition of clean was

    I think clean eating is this.
    Eating appropriate foods that meet my nutritional needs, that falls with in the macros ive set to help me progress...
  • But would you really want no carbs and be keto...

    But would you really want no carbs and be keto for 30 days, when ever ive been on low carb diets i feel like i lose brain function. id rather take in the extra fat content for the carbs, i really get...
  • A. @ beauFlexington , ice cream. although it...

    A.

    @ beauFlexington , ice cream. although it would melt ;(
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  • Well i just go down the list and do the best i...

    Well i just go down the list and do the best i can to answer any questions.
    I'd recommend you try to get in a routine for the gym, having a set schedule ensures many things, from as simple as, being...
  • @BeauFlexington you can not agree with me. which...

    @BeauFlexington
    you can not agree with me. which is fine. But the bottom line is, what one person thinks is 'clean' eating is different to what another person thinks it is, unless someone thinks we...
  • nothing i've said is false. and i've proven it....

    nothing i've said is false. and i've proven it.
    i clearly stated i believe clean is a term with extreme variance, and saying clean is good or bad either way doesnt mean anything. So you keep acting...
  • and ive answered it SEVERAL times. A.) IF its...

    and ive answered it SEVERAL times.
    A.) IF its within my macros otherwise B.
    not sure why you are repeating yourself continuosly.
    bottom line is IF i was eating A or B, i would also know what ive...
  • again its situational. your stuck on something...

    again its situational. your stuck on something that can be argued for and against both options equally. theres no right or wrong answer. and you are literally proving or pointing out anything
    the...
  • keep in mind i never said i would base my...

    keep in mind i never said i would base my decision on 'fat' i said SPECIFICALLY 'fat OR calories' i took both into consideration. As someone who would be making the choice of what i put in jmy own...
  • you asking you have to choose A or B, with 0...

    you asking you have to choose A or B, with 0 context, is the same as saying the opinion of what 'clean' means is wrong, while not taking into consideration context. With many variables, and different...
  • I would say B is 'cleaner' but A will keep you...

    I would say B is 'cleaner' but A will keep you full longer.

    My point here is you guys are arguing about 'perception'. Im not saying 'clean' isint a bull term. im agreeing, it is a bull term, a...
  • i think the internet disagree's with you. Wether...

    i think the internet disagree's with you. Wether the term buzzword hyped in the media is TRUE OR NOT, saying there's no 'common' definition is completely off base.

    Google :
    Eating clean
    Eating...
  • By eating clean i was talking specifically as to...

    By eating clean i was talking specifically as to the fact he stated he was having trouble reaching his nutritonal goals with out going over. I realize that if it fits your macros, a large portion of...
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