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if your stomach can take a shot thats what matters

do a sport like boxing

so roy big country can out run any lean bodybuilder

i agree totally with you on what you mentioned about punching and other points etc

my point is more about stiffness and its interesting
how people in bodybuilding try to deny this, while it looks...

great good for you....
so as a hockey player
you dont see how stiff and uncoordinated a lot of bodybuilders are?

no bro, no no
as someone who has competed in boxing and done bjj/mma for many years
i can tell how the difference in how i would throw punches when i do a lot of
weight training and when i dont
...

makes sense for the most part but a lot of weight training can often lead to stiffness anyway
so wouldnt something that helps you get rid of it...help?

interesting thing,

out of boredom i did a few workouts off youtube
and found that some of the stuff can actually be
quite hard despite the fact that its mainly chicks doing it
these days

...

yeah the thing with guys like rhul and coleman
its hard to tell how they will handle the racing type of
events etc

yeah agreed but platz will be interesting as well

Ruhl would have been interesting to see in strongman

not the strongest guys just some big names


arnold
kai greene
dorian yates
phil heath
sergio olivia
dexter jackson
Markus Rühl.

nice about the wrestling, and great answer in general
everything makes sense

not sure but i do train hard its mainly how i eat at the time.

i have added or lost 20-30 pounds in a 2-3 mouths

yeah i know how you feel
with me though
i gain and lose weight quite quickly
which is a little odd too lol

i come from a background in combat sports
and one thing you notice is that in boxing or wrestling
or many other combat sports

you notice them working their neck muscles a lot
because their...

who would you say naturally stronger?

who wins in a modern day strongman event?

its interesting i noticed with guys that are
over weight,

you have the normal fat dude who puts weight on mainly
on the stomach area and his belly sticks out like a ball...

this is common
...

what do you guys find is more to your liking
and what do you think is better for overall shoulder health?