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    Very interesting. I'll try something similar on...

    Very interesting. I'll try something similar on my next cut. I'll probably go with 3 shakes with ~35 gram protein.
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    Thanks. Interesting. I though you meant 5 days...

    Thanks. Interesting. I though you meant 5 days shakes, that's why I thought fast weight loss.

    Normally the term 5/2 diet is used for 5 days deficit 2 days maintenance.

    Any strength loss? How...
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    Interesting. Should be some fast weight loss. How...

    Interesting. Should be some fast weight loss. How fast is it? How many protein shakes per day?
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    Yeah who would want to build muscle at the same...

    Yeah who would want to build muscle at the same time. Probably no one ;)
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    Who cares? Do you care about gaining muscle?...

    Who cares?

    Do you care about gaining muscle? One meal a day is very suboptimal.
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    1500 kcal isn't enough for you. Go with 2000...

    1500 kcal isn't enough for you. Go with 2000 first.
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    Excessive sugar may increase your risk for...

    Excessive sugar may increase your risk for depression. And excessive water can kill you. The list goes on and on.

    For healthy, active individuals up to 10% of total calories from free sugar...
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    There are plenty of bodybuilders that use cut and...

    There are plenty of bodybuilders that use cut and bulk cycles, especially natural trainees.

    And powerlifters generally aren't concerned with bulking as lean as possible. More fat on their back...
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    The meta is brought in as evidence in the article...

    The meta is brought in as evidence in the article that is supposed to look at what happens when you overfeed at higher body fat. The meta is referenced in the video that we're discussing here, the...
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    120 gram protein per day would be fine. Just...

    120 gram protein per day would be fine.

    Just drink to thirst.

    All the dairy and food you consume also contains water.
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    Yup good point. And another point: there's...

    Yup good point.

    And another point: there's also individual variability. Even when people on average have a blunted anabolic response at higher body fat, the successful powerlifters may be the...
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    Here's another important fact to consider....

    Here's another important fact to consider. Training has a much larger and more prolonged effect on MPS than feeding.

    So even if the MPS response to protein feeding is blunted somewhat by being at...
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    Nope that's not necessarily the right...

    Nope that's not necessarily the right implication. They would build muscle slightly slower on the same amount of protein per meal and calories, that's what those studies suggest. And only 36 gram...
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    In calorie surplus. You left out that tiny...

    In calorie surplus. You left out that tiny detail. Check the original article. You can of course keep denying it but the facts are clear. I've added some red lines to make it even clearer.
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    Testing twice, once after one month without...

    Testing twice, once after one month without creatine, once after a month with, would likely already give a good indication. More testing would improve accuracy but it may not be necessary.

    The...
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    It would be but man... that would take a lot of...

    It would be but man... that would take a lot of time and thus money. Hair loss is very slowly. If creatine really increases DHT by 30 or so % it might take a year before you can measure a significant...
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    I don't mean be annoying for you but I'm afraid I...

    I don't mean be annoying for you but I'm afraid I can't really help with that.

    First article by Eric Trexler:


    https://www.strongerbyscience.com/p-ratios/

    Response by Menno:
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    Nope that's not the implication. It means that,...

    Nope that's not the implication. It means that, all things equal, they would build muscle a bit slower on the same amount of protein.


    This is not what those studies mean. Just because muscle...
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    The study was with 20 men and DHT remained 40%...

    The study was with 20 men and DHT remained 40% above baseline after 14 days. Pretty potent if you ask me. I find it hard to believe that's a fluke. In the absence of more data I would just treat the...
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    Not sure if I follow you, it was an intervention...

    Not sure if I follow you, it was an intervention study and the result was directly measured.

    I guess you mean the association between DHT and hair loss. Well you know the most effective medicine...
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