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    I don’t think preworkout is a grocery item ;)

    I don’t think preworkout is a grocery item ;)
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    Same here man, same here. The sanctity of the...

    Same here man, same here.

    The sanctity of the game has been fouled (throwback to the OG Diablo, quest #1)

    I miss Griswold. That fat bastard sure could craft a mean cuirass or broad sword.
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    I never did WoW. I was a Diablo kid. All day...

    I never did WoW.

    I was a Diablo kid. All day all night... literally.
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    I used to love these as a kid. And somehow, the...

    I used to love these as a kid. And somehow, the broccoli cheddar.
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    Yup Im only 35, but i've been working out for...

    Yup

    Im only 35, but i've been working out for over 15 years and due to many factors, i never even once got close to my natural potential...

    closest I came from about 175lb at about 15% BF......
  • Dude stop bumping threads

    Dude stop bumping threads
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    ah i see. Well, hey, you're here now... that's...

    ah i see.

    Well, hey, you're here now... that's the important part ;o)
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    really? I would think at 6-5 you could be like...

    really?

    I would think at 6-5 you could be like 95-97kg at 15% or so.... even with 'OK' genetics.
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    its solid.... basically like dehydrated smoked...

    its solid.... basically like dehydrated smoked salmon
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    Wrong. Dude... who taught you math? 89kg *...

    Wrong.

    Dude... who taught you math?

    89kg * .14 = 12.46kg of fat Mass

    Which means RIGHT NOW you have 76.54kg of LEAN MASS (89 - 12.26).

    Divide 76.54 by .9 (because .9 represents 90% LEAN,...
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    Uh, no... even by your own math, that doesn't...

    Uh, no... even by your own math, that doesn't make sense.

    If you're 89kg at 14% BF, that means you'd be 85kg at 10%... and that's using the higher BF number you provided.

    I dunno where you got...
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    I've only found this to be the case when people...

    I've only found this to be the case when people venture into take-out meals or foods that are almost impossible to estimate.

    Personally, if I stick to common foods, it's easy to stay lean while...
  • A wholesome diet providing sufficient macro and...

    A wholesome diet providing sufficient macro and micronutrients, plus perhaps supplemental D3 is essentially all you need.

    There is some evidence also ensuring proper Zinc status can be helpful.
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    No idea about cutting.... But right now, on...

    No idea about cutting....

    But right now, on just normal groceries/food... probably like $500-600 just for me.

    I buy a lot of expensive food :)
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    That isn't how you measure muscle or fat loss......

    That isn't how you measure muscle or fat loss... you didn't lose 2lb of muscle...

    If you're maintaining strength or getting stronger, you're definitely not losing muscle.

    I would avoid any kind...
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    A bodybuilder could eat anything... so your list...

    A bodybuilder could eat anything... so your list would be the same as anyone's. But, my favorites:

    Canned/Sealed Lentil Soup
    Canned/Sealed Chili
    Canned/Sealed Beans
    Protein Bars
    Salmon Jerky...
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    You don’t ‘need’ to, you’re choosing to ;-)

    You don’t ‘need’ to, you’re choosing to ;-)
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    It really does erk me... I understand people...

    It really does erk me...

    I understand people not wanting to be like 25% bodyfat as a dude... but seriously... NOBODY here is going to accidentally become morbidly obese..

    The level of mental...
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    To be honest, I think all the current talk about...

    To be honest, I think all the current talk about 'gaintaining/maingaining' is really just overcomplicating things...

    Greg Doucette has seriously muddied the waters with his obsession over it......
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    Not really. Leptin is produced by fat cells......

    Not really.

    Leptin is produced by fat cells...

    If you’re maintaining, you’re not adding fat cells... so, you don’t have the leptin...

    For most people, that is why maintaining 10% is so...
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