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From your list, C4 Ultimate/Nutrex Outlift.....the rest, junk. And honestly from the 3 you bought...they are all horrible. The Curse is prob. one of the worst pre's created.

Lol I'm a fan of yours now....OG Bloodshot with the wrong size scoop. Still have 1 left :) and 1 left of the updated/fixed scoop size.

Depends man....that's a broad question, do you want to be...

It's weak, that's why. Only 225mg combined of Eria Jarensis/DMHA....Kraken is 450mg combined

Gets bad reviews on AM board also. Like you, nada for energy/focus is the common theme. Singerman...

ANY DMHA infused pre for that matter. Biggest flop ingredient to come along in awhile.

Question is....when is it hitting BB.com? Its already shipped from my understanding to retailers. Would like to pair it with Funnel Cake and buy all at once.

Fitness chicks on Instagram win out again......

Opening up a whole new world....some of the best formulas:

1) EvoMuse - Clear Edge
2) Chaos & Pain - AGGRO
3) MAN SPORTS - Brainbridge
4) Performax Labs - Nootropimax
5) MA Labs - Vicaine
6)...

100% agree Volugen...all these others aren't even close. Throw in MA Labs "MA Pump" and you have the 2 best pump formulas out there and its not even close.

Peach Pineapple

Tris....because nothing compares to a skin bursting tri workout.

DAA, CLA and Oral IGF the trio of losers lol.

That over inflated retail price of $42 is laughable. Can be found cheaper than $26 but regardless....it's a good pre, older but this was when Iforce was innovative i.e. before being taken over by Hi...

Man there are a lot of cucks in this thread crying about Bloodshot (not you). This is geared toward the heavy stim user....Vein talks about 1,4 over on AM board...not in great detail though.

Vein...

Sad but true. Once you hit mainstream i.e. Wally World, Target, etc. etc. your audience increases but yet the stupidity of the customer increases. So many companies i.e. Olympus Labs, etc. that...

It's the small companies that people want. People are sick of big company underdosed shtty formulas. Not that small companies don't have them either. Big companies are geared towards the IIFYM...

Would you expect anything less from BB.com? Shying away from anything "remotely" questionable is BB.com M.O. Prob. take their crack legal team 10yrs to clear some of OL ingredients...took what...

Lol not sure if I'm jealous....or mortified my man. God bless....I can take heavy stims, like heavy stims...Y though, anything above 2mg and I might as well write my last will and testament.

That's 10mg of Y...what the livin fck or who the livin fck takes 10mg of Y at once?

Def. looks a lot better that the latest 2 feeble pre's released by a couple of the bigger companies recently (shouldn't be too hard to figure out). Actually impressed Cellucor decided to take it up...

Methamphetamine like ingredient.

Reps now calling Craze "shady" while using it back in the day lol.

Who da faq QC'ed that flavor at IFN...like srs? How did something so heinous ever hit production? Same can be said for a lot of supplements....immediately coming to mind is ceasing production of...