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    Novice full body + food.

    Novice full body + food.
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    Upper lower 4 days is all you need. Fierce 5 is...

    Upper lower 4 days is all you need. Fierce 5 is the one I’ve had the most success with. I also did very well on 5/3/1 BBB which is also an upper lower.
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    That sounds like an excellent use of time.

    That sounds like an excellent use of time.
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    ^This Most people don't train correctly but...

    ^This

    Most people don't train correctly but still make progress just at a much slower rate. Nowadays with programs like Fierce 5 there is no more guess work. We know exactly what works. Everything...
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    Lower B Leg press 340 RDL 185 Leg extension 60...

    Lower B
    Leg press 340
    RDL 185
    Leg extension 60
    Leg curl 50
    Calf 460
    Abs
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    Weight 192.5 Upper B Incline Press 180...

    Weight 192.5

    Upper B
    Incline Press 180
    Pendlay Row 140, 185*
    Chest flies 50
    Lat pull down 120
    Tri press downs 120
    Face pulls 50
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    This needs a bump.

    This needs a bump.
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    The best way to do this IMO is to go with a...

    The best way to do this IMO is to go with a specialized upper/lower. You start with the lagging muscle group and hammer it for 6-8 weeks then rotate the next lagging muscle after that. Everything...
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    Yeah. Once you start moving heavy weights you...

    Yeah. Once you start moving heavy weights you won't be recovering properly.
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    Lower A Squat 345 Db back ext 60 Leg press 270...

    Lower A
    Squat 345
    Db back ext 60
    Leg press 270
    Leg curl 45
    Calf 460
    Abs
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    The one thing that always gets lost in the bro...

    The one thing that always gets lost in the bro split non sense is progression. I swear these guys always forget to add weight and just pump and fluff around the gym for hours.
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    Id be curious to see the squat dept. Most legit...

    Id be curious to see the squat dept. Most legit 400 lb squatters are benching 300ish..
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    Yup. Drugs will always mask a bad training...

    Yup. Drugs will always mask a bad training program. As much as I liked the 3 day FB approach I use to wonder how the old school guys would have done with the standard 4 day u/l. I don't know if you...
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    Weight 192 Upper A Bench 240 DB row 60 Lat...

    Weight 192

    Upper A
    Bench 240
    DB row 60
    Lat pull down 120
    DB OHP 60
    Curls 75
    Face pull 50
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    ^this. On upper lower not having to train half...

    ^this. On upper lower not having to train half the body in a workout allows you to save a ton of energy to hammer the other half.
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    Hoping the cheese win this one so we get a sb1...

    Hoping the cheese win this one so we get a sb1 rematch
  • Titans will lose and coach Boon will retire.

    Titans will lose and coach Boon will retire.
  • Something like Lyle McDonald’s specialization...

    Something like Lyle McDonald’s specialization cycles would be good for you. You could put shoulders on maintenance and bring up back.
  • Yup you’ll stall faster that way.

    Yup you’ll stall faster that way.
  • Once you’re done cutting and you’ve stalled try...

    Once you’re done cutting and you’ve stalled try dropping the weight 20 percent. Get in a small surplus and work back up. I think the upper lower is good.
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