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I get into situations in which eating a typical lunch won't work. I'd rather chug some kind of a liquid meal.

I've google'd smoothie recipes, but they are WAY too complex and they assume that we...

I threw in the towel and bought the bodycraft....it'll be installed tomorrow. It has a good guarantee, like most, for residential use.
It will be perfectly adequate and, at the very least, I...

That FT-5000 looks great. One reason that I like it is also the reason that I probably wouldn't want it: it is too wide for my space.

Ha! Thanks for the feedback. I'm bothering these forums a lot and you've been a help.

I'm not very savvy about pullies and such, so thanks for that analysis. If I go for the less expensive...

I'm looking at the whole gamut of these machines.....I was getting an estimate on a Cybex Bravo, but the salesman said he really liked the Bodycraft HFT for a third of the price of the Cybex (because...

So the compact Bravo can be had new/installed/tax for $6,900 .... so we're talking the price of a Kawasaki z650 now.

Thing is, the salesman strongly suggests I check out the Bodycraft HFT. Didn't...

Well, the estimates are getting lower (from a nearby dealer)....so it might be put up or shut up time. Frig'n 6 week delivery, though.
I'm at $7,200 out the door installed for the "tall"...

Thanks pirate.
The inspire (FT1 and FT2) I have tried were super slippery smooth. I couldn't detect any friction even when moving one single plate.
The Bravo machine is probably perfection. I've...

Yes, I saw that one. While his critique of the cheapy accessories was understandable, I felt that all of his height concerns had perfectly acceptable alternative adaptations.

I'm wondering how...

The FT1 is on the list..... but there is a model that is $1,000 cheaper than the FT1 called the Inspire FTX. Even Costco sells it. For the life of me, I can't find any difference between the two...

Asked for my dealer's price on the Cybex Bravo, and it is looking closer $8,000!!!! (with tax, delivery, assembly).... the darn thing has gone up to $7,000 retail.
So, I'm now looking at Hoist Mi7...

No matter what, I'll probably have the thing delivered and built. I'm handy, but for $399 or so, it might be nice to relax while it is assembled.
The downside is that I won't be nearly as familiar...

Thanks for the response.
Good grief, so I should expect my best price would be $6,100 plus delivery and tax..... whew!
Brutal!
It is still on my list.
That "progressive stabilization bar"...

If I get one, it will have to be a compact....not sure what disadvantage one has over the other, but I've got an odd place that it must fit....so I can't have those tall pull up bars.

Good job...

Thanks. We have a dealer in my town, but they don't have Cybex on the floor....only Inspire and Hoist.

I would love to give the Bravo a little test but would probably have to call around to find...

I just noticed that the Bravo CAN be ordered with an extra heavy stack, but you are correct about the lack of "accessory" weights. Here are the weight options on the various Bravos.

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Just when I think I've done a solid job of researching the different pros/cons of these devices, I learn something new.
Didn't know that the Bravo didn't offer weight upgrades.

One additional thing about the Bravo, and I haven't heard this mentioned, is that it appears to have the smallest footprint of any of it's competitors....to include the lesser machines.
For me, that...

How much have Bravo's increased? I'm using your post as a standard for negotiating with my local dealer, but perhaps tariffs have affected the prices over the past year or two.

I'm looking at getting something like an Inspire FT1 or Cybex Bravo to my workout area.
If I decide that the weight stack isn't heavy enough, is it easy enough to buy the additional accessory...