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    Most will suggest at least 4 weeks. You could...

    Most will suggest at least 4 weeks. You could break open the caps, but the ingredients are not exactly great tasting.
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    What type of effects are you looking to receive...

    What type of effects are you looking to receive from your preworkout product?
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    Pump-BOL, C-BOL, Ultima, Hemavol and Body...

    Pump-BOL, C-BOL, Ultima, Hemavol and Body Octane/Clout are all great options.
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    This. IIRC you can get ALCAR from within Canada...

    This. IIRC you can get ALCAR from within Canada but can't get it from sources outside of. I can be mistaken though. ALCAR and choline are a good base for a nootropic combo IMHO.

    Pump-BOL and a...
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    Pump-BOL and Ultima is a great combo that works...

    Pump-BOL and Ultima is a great combo that works well together.

    I wonder how well a Pump-BOL/agmatine/ALCAR/choline combo would work... I get pretty good focus from the ALCAR/choline combo, and...
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    Those, or Source Naturals Life Force No Iron.

    Those, or Source Naturals Life Force No Iron.
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    Quality of ingredients and price taken into...

    Quality of ingredients and price taken into consideration, Source Naturals Life Force No Iron is my preference.
  • Welcome to the team! x3tbB-pzMm4

    Welcome to the team!

    x3tbB-pzMm4
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    In the end whether you do our not will most...

    In the end whether you do our not will most likely make an indiscernible difference. That said I do ingest some dextrose PWO in the form of Gatorade powder because and simply because it's rather...
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    Looks like you're used to stims in your...

    Looks like you're used to stims in your preworkouts so Pump-BOL may be a different experience for you. Fortunately you also have the flexibility of adding y your own if needed ;)
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    Wow I've green around these boards that long....

    Wow I've green around these boards that long. Seems sort of crazy.




    C-BOL, creatine nitrate, anhydrous and HCL.
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    ThermoLife T-BOL or oral turinabol? If the...

    ThermoLife T-BOL or oral turinabol? If the previous, not needed. If the latter still probably not needed.
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    Poll: Ummm... what did I miss? :confused: And how...

    Ummm... what did I miss? :confused:

    And how does eating one serving each per day of beef, chicken, fish and eggs have any affect on any of this?
  • Hahahahahahaahaha! On a serious note I don't...

    Hahahahahahaahaha!

    On a serious note I don't think the vitamin C/NAC combo is a concern as far as performance hindrance goes. However my conclusion is purely anecdotal and speculative, as well as...
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    This is why I don't swoosh despite it's possible...

    This is why I don't swoosh despite it's possible benefits on absorption of resveratrol with the addition of quercetin.
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    Your first dosing scheme would be my...

    Your first dosing scheme would be my recommendation.
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    Something nitrate or agmatine based may just be...

    Something nitrate or agmatine based may just be the ticket if you feel that you need a stim break. PSU is a great product and would be my preference of the three that you mentioned that you tried...
  • Together? Sounds like it may be painful. :D

    Together? Sounds like it may be painful. :D
  • Some great products already mentioned, but don't...

    Some great products already mentioned, but don't underestimate C-BOL for pumps!
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    Something nitrate or agmatine based. If you go...

    Something nitrate or agmatine based. If you go non stim like Pump-BOL or Hemavol you can a add your own stims since you enjoy that feeling.
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