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    Water is a waste too, since u just piss it out...

    Water is a waste too, since u just piss it out and all.

    Answer: stop drinking water and stop taking vitamins
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    Well it could be, but epicatechin itself shows...

    Well it could be, but epicatechin itself shows non-linear absorption. Bioavailability rises as dose increases, so this whole thing may not even be a valid concern after all....
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    Why not buy your own raws and show everyone how...

    Why not buy your own raws and show everyone how its done then.
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    I thought I had already included the abstract...

    I thought I had already included the abstract showing vitamin C likely preventing efflux of epicatechin back to the intestinal lumen. Here it is -

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17688297
  • I wouldnt argue with Will Hunting unless your...

    I wouldnt argue with Will Hunting unless your name is Robin Williams.
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    Good deal. Its an interesting compound and I'll...

    Good deal. Its an interesting compound and I'll admit I havent even tried it yet, though I plan to soon.
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    Believe me I wish I could afford it. Thanks for...

    Believe me I wish I could afford it. Thanks for the info though, Im glad you could review these and fill us in.
  • Well lets see what advice you would give yourself...

    Well lets see what advice you would give yourself on this subject...
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    The irony didnt escape me that we are finding...

    The irony didnt escape me that we are finding these compounds work best in conjuction, and that the formula has existed for a long time. The major difference, though, is that there is only a small...
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    I dont know (no access), but ascorbic acid did...

    I dont know (no access), but ascorbic acid did similarly well. PGP inhibition, however, has been shown with gallate/pyrogallol moiety catechins, rising with their hydrophobicity.



    Epicatechin +...
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    Another Caco-2 assay shows grapefruit/lemon juice...

    Another Caco-2 assay shows grapefruit/lemon juice made a significant difference in retention.




    http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/meeting_abstract/21/5/A730-b
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    Glad to help, but hopefully you can check the...

    Glad to help, but hopefully you can check the full text before you make a decision (I can only get the abstract). Its not clear, looking at the abstract, exactly how effective EGCG was when compared...
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    I believe the irritation issues are only caused...

    I believe the irritation issues are only caused by high concentrations of octyl gallate. Its already used as an additive in many foods to prevent rancidity. I guess the question is - Where does the...
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    Follidrone (Epicatechin) + Octyl Gallate?

    Octyl gallate (GAO) and other GAO derivatives enhance cellular accumulation of epicatechin, at least in vitro, by up to 426% (study below). In other studies, octyl gallate has also shown oral...
  • I understand its osmolytic effect, but as its not...

    I understand its osmolytic effect, but as its not accompanied by increased myofibrillar/sarcoplasmic protein synthesis I think its a stretch to call it muscle building directly.
  • Indirectly, it could. Its misleading to say that...

    Indirectly, it could. Its misleading to say that creatine supplementation WILL gain you muscle. Lay in bed all day for a few weeks while supplementing creatine and see how much muscle it builds you.
  • You could say this about almost any ergogenic...

    You could say this about almost any ergogenic aid, going by the parameters you require. Good luck finding studies that prove muscle gains made during times of caffeine usage are kept after "cycling...
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