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    you can still find lean xtreme but DS's track...

    you can still find lean xtreme but DS's track record of supplement containing what was actually on the label is pretty rough so who knows what you were taking then
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    Pretty sure if's just their house brand so...

    Pretty sure if's just their house brand so information on it is pretty hard to come by
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    FWIW not my email so can't elaborate any more...

    FWIW not my email so can't elaborate any more other that I know you'll get this response from a majority of companies

    https://i.imgur.com/xHjmWkV.png
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    E/C is pretty well documented to be effective,...

    E/C is pretty well documented to be effective, other ingredients like yohimbine, forskolin, grains of paradise might only be noticeable when you only have a little extra weight to lose
  • What I'm saying is that creatine, fish oil and...

    What I'm saying is that creatine, fish oil and vitamin D are all supplements you could use daily for overall health and caffeine can help give you energy to workout but if you wanted suggestions for...
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    Might be hard to find something else that lives...

    Might be hard to find something else that lives up to the hype of Excelsior, I usually opt for adaptogens if I want something long lasting i.e. cordyceps, rhodiola etc.



    all noots have their...
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    Certain N.O, ingredients can help performance...

    Certain N.O, ingredients can help performance like nitrates, nitrosigine and arguable citrulline.
  • yes when it has a higher concentration of the...

    yes when it has a higher concentration of the active ingredient
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    Pre workout with stims: Ghost Legend v2, PES...

    Pre workout with stims: Ghost Legend v2, PES Prolific, Nutrabio Pre, Core Fury, Apollon Hooligan or just add caffeine to one of these pump supps: Core Pump, PES High Volume, 5% Full as F*ck, BFF...
  • could be both, it could be a lot less active in...

    could be both, it could be a lot less active in general and one batch might be more or less than another
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    on paper there are better options

    on paper there are better options
  • Life Extension is standardized for the active...

    Life Extension is standardized for the active ingredient
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    salt substitutes make it easier

    salt substitutes make it easier
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    betaine anhydrous instead of hcl, drop the...

    betaine anhydrous instead of hcl, drop the arginine and get something sweet because all that is going to taste like vomit
  • creatine, caffeine, fish oil and vitamin D will...

    creatine, caffeine, fish oil and vitamin D will benefit just about everyone, anything else depends on what you're looking for
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    It's just you, Promera Sports doesn't make...

    It's just you, Promera Sports doesn't make anything worth paying full price for
  • I'm inclined to believe it's more about calories...

    I'm inclined to believe it's more about calories since beef will 95% of the time have more calories than chicken
  • LCLT improves recovery in large sample size

    L-Carnitine Tartrate Supplementation for 5 Weeks Improves Exercise Recovery in Men and Women: A Randomized,Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Trial


    L-carnitine tartrate has been shown to improve...
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    not sure what you consider cheap but ND is $20...

    not sure what you consider cheap but ND is $20 for 125g and legit
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    do you drink a lot of water within an hour of bed?

    do you drink a lot of water within an hour of bed?
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