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You guys are all wrong. The real reason is that they all need to eat a few pieces of pizza, it's the glycogens!

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/subjective = Bodybuilding

I'm not sure you quite understand exactly what 'proof' is.

It's entirely subjective, but in my opinion, if every Olympian were to step on stage in their prime that Ronnie would be first and Phil would be second.

Phil was smaller, and not as full as he has been prior. But that's irrelevant, he was the best on the stage IMO.
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A bodybuilding contest is judged by comparing one athlete to another.
A competitors past condition is entirely irrelevant. It does not matter one bit if a competitor has progressed, regressed or...

Won't be a bodybuilding.com stream this year?

It's a futile debate to try and define 'beautiful' in this context.

That being said, what body parts do you think are superior to Coleman? As a whole and individually.

As I said in the first post of the thread.






The scorecard is literally 1 number for a whole nights worth of judging, there is precisely zero accountability.

Exactly. Some think Zyzz has the most 'aesthetic' physique, some think Justin Bieber does and some think Coleman does.

There is no objectivity in taste, just like there's no objectivity (currently) in the IFBB.

I don't see how that's a hard concept to grasp.

I agree, the Arnold this year seemed especially bad. A large amount of photo's were mistimed.

Another issue is the specific pose, in a few other organisations they have strict guidelines on how...

Is it just me or is one arm atrophied/ing? I noticed it slightly at the Olympia as well.

You didn't answer the question :)

How you can say that with certainty?

I think vanilla ice cream is the best flavour, you think that chocolate is the best flavour. Who is right?

You make the assumption that a certain competitor scoring a 5 and another a 10 means that they were not close in terms of competitiveness.

That is false, if I were to decide a placing in the...

Appreciate the effort!

I do not think I could have made it through.

Ramy has yet to do so, and from what I've observed neither has anyone else.

Phil has, in my opinion, had the best subjective physique for 4 years now. I really do not understand those who think...

Ramy is incredible. However I personally think the chances of him achieving the necessary condition to beat Phil are pretty low.

If I had to bet on someone to dethrone Heath my money is on Justin...

I disagree.
Better quality material whether it be video or photo showcases what they actually looked like. The higher quality the footage, the more realistic it is, from my experience.

I have...