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  • It's a solid routine, you might not like Blaha,...

    It's a solid routine, you might not like Blaha, you might think he Google's all his info, but he is still strong, not fat these days and if you followed all his advice you'd not do much wrong.
  • What do you do? 1: be a very fortunate genetic...

    What do you do?

    1: be a very fortunate genetic outlier.
    2: train very hard for years.
    3: count calories with precision, and never EVER cheat, ever.

    That guy has an absolute ton of muscle and...
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    Works for everyone on the face of the planet who...

    Works for everyone on the face of the planet who doesn't have an underlying medical problem.


    Because they're not putting in the required effort somewhere.

    FFS the OP squats and deadlifts 150...
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    Working chest and not back will cause a horrid...

    Working chest and not back will cause a horrid imbalance, the strong pecs (without a strong back) will pull the shoulders into protraction and cause a head hunched forward look

    Which is the total...
  • That gets a LOT worse when you age, I still BMX,...

    That gets a LOT worse when you age, I still BMX, I' m 49, landing hard hurts, ankles and knees can't take the abuse, then again I am still heavy (230lb, I'm over 250lb in my avatar), I was about...
  • I'll let you know when I do. 49y/o, was 255lb,...

    I'll let you know when I do.

    49y/o, was 255lb, bigger, stronger and arguably more "impressive" than ever 3 months ago

    Down just under 230lb and currently fighting body dismorphia demons so...
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    You are not, repeat ARE NOT 5'6", 210lb and 13%...

    You are not, repeat ARE NOT 5'6", 210lb and 13% bodyfat (lean mass 182lb).
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    Poll: They're both (ICF 5x5 & ICF 2.0) solid routines....

    They're both (ICF 5x5 & ICF 2.0) solid routines.

    I think he's wrong to take shrugs out of 2.0. And if you have the strength putting chins back in place of curls won't do any harm IMHO.
  • So, you're not weak, bench way over body weight,...

    So, you're not weak, bench way over body weight, squat getting towards double bodyweight, deadlift well over double bodyweight. You are by % of bodyweight considerably stronger than me.
    So, don't...
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    Then do F5 lifts but 5 sets of 10 (or 3 sets of...

    Then do F5 lifts but 5 sets of 10 (or 3 sets of 10 if you want) and get some micro plates so you can progress slower.

    Or switch to AMRAP and keep in the 10+ reps range, or do sets of 10 with an...
  • 15" is tiny, mine are 19" (2" bigger than my...

    15" is tiny, mine are 19" (2" bigger than my biceps) and look small on me. As do my 26" quads. So you might not care now, but when you have a 48" chest and 17" arms you will.

    Also, the problem...
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    Dude, you're fine, just eat and get strong if you...

    Dude, you're fine, just eat and get strong if you want to be actually be big, work on your delts and traps if you want to look like a hollywood star (they have overdeveloped traps and delts 'cause...
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    How about considering yourself lucky to be in a...

    How about considering yourself lucky to be in a position where you have access to so much food you get to choose what you do or don't want and just eat what you should?

    We all have to do things we...
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    If that's 2 months ptogress & 8lb gain I'd...

    If that's 2 months ptogress & 8lb gain I'd question your training routine?
    What were you doing, how much did you gain on squat/bench/OHP?
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    But the OP was on about Fierce 5 novice; ...

    But the OP was on about Fierce 5 novice;

    Workout A
    Squat 3x5
    Bench 3x5
    Pendlay Rows 3x8
    Face Pulls 3x10
    Calf raises 2x15/Tricep pressdowns 2x10 Superset

    Workout B
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    Lyles GBR has near 200 reps are various arm work...

    Lyles GBR has near 200 reps are various arm work per week! It's not similar to Fierce 5, it's about as far away as you can get.
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    This forum's obsession with Fierce 5 is...

    This forum's obsession with Fierce 5 is interesting, it is (IMHO) not ideal if aesthetics are your goal, it might (might) get you through your novice (linear progression) gains on squat and bench as...
  • More? ;)

    More?
    ;)
  • That's not be true, at 14 if he hasn't hit...

    That's not be true, at 14 if he hasn't hit puberty his T levels may still be the same as an 8y/o girl, if that's tge case his body is not inclined to build much muscle and either way excess calories...
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    That's obviously complete bollocks, the amount...

    That's obviously complete bollocks, the amount you can deadlift is 100% on how strong your grip or your lower back are.
    I can powershug (with straps or hooks) more for 3 sets of 10 reps than I can...
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