Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

I've used HREx for 3 months.

It does have A LOT of caffeine, however not sure on the whole fat loss thing. I have leaned up a bit, but not sure how much of that is from the HREx. If I take 5 or 6 or more pills a day it makes me pretty anxious and quick tempered.

I would only take on training days. Cycled off of it for two week. I was on for 1.5 months, off for 2 weeks then back on for 1.5 months.

Pros:
It keeps you alert.
It's only 19.95

Cons:
A LOT of caffeine vs not a lot of fat burning agents.
Thought I would have greater weight loss results.
Mood Swings.

OVERALL:
I guess I would only say try this if you want a caffeine rush. But, I'm not satisfied.

Future:
Adding Fenterdren to my supplements this week and will keep you posted.

AFFILIATIONS:
I don't sell supplements or knows of anyone who sells supplements - So, I have nothing to profit if you try these products.

Would it be a bad idea for a 17 year old to take a fat burner? Ive been working out for awhile and just need to shed a like 8 pounds of fat.

[QUOTE=jerzydevil;267464541]i have finished the mitotropin program the other day. And i have to say i think i could have done the same with just the diet alone. I only lost about 5.5 pounds. I still say that out of all of the supplements i tried, Lipo6 by Nutrex gave me the best results in the quickest time, and i didnt even do any cardio. I just worked out the same. And for the price of MITOtropin, wow... Lipo6 was way cheaper and way better results...the water shed pills that came with the MITOtropin were no joke though, they really worked. I am startin a new stack:
HaloDrol
MethylVol
Lipo6x
and a nice liver cleanse,

The halodrol is just there to keep the muscles hard while i try to put on a light build, while also at the same time minimize the fat gain with Lipo6x. And i have to say that the original Lipo6 worked faster than the newer Lipo6x. I hope it gives me the good reults the other lipo did. I will post again soon.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. Mitotropin has instantly become the most over rated fat loss product. Everyone just ends up agreeing with each other that it's "great" like some sheep.

[QUOTE=jerzydevil;267464541]i have finished the mitotropin program the other day. And i have to say i think i could have done the same with just the diet alone. I only lost about 5.5 pounds. I still say that out of all of the supplements i tried, Lipo6 by Nutrex gave me the best results in the quickest time, and i didnt even do any cardio. I just worked out the same. And for the price of MITOtropin, wow... Lipo6 was way cheaper and way better results...the water shed pills that came with the MITOtropin were no joke though, they really worked. I am startin a new stack:
HaloDrol
MethylVol
Lipo6x
and a nice liver cleanse,

The halodrol is just there to keep the muscles hard while i try to put on a light build, while also at the same time minimize the fat gain with Lipo6x. And i have to say that the original Lipo6 worked faster than the newer Lipo6x. I hope it gives me the good reults the other lipo did. I will post again soon.[/QUOTE]

I'm on Mito too and getting alright results.

[QUOTE=AronP24;269432581]wtf is with all this "voodoo" pimping all of a sudden
we only like to pimp products the rest of the sheep pimp on here .... ;)[/QUOTE]

I like that. That made me laugh. This forum is about ephedra free alternatives since I have been working in this industry and competeing as well as taking every over the counter supplement under the sun I feel that i have a pretty good idea of what works and what is hype.

This product is not hype it is new and it works plus if you go on there site you can enter a new EXTREME BODY CHALLENGE. I know the people that designed the products and the are legit.

[url]http://www.reaction-nutrition.com/Pages/reaction_home.html[/url]

best/cheapest/simplest fat burner ever - l-glutamine + caloric restriction, works wonders, and i don't feel hungry, but i also stack with alcar, green tea, sesamin, ps

Exactly these fatburners give people the motivation after a long day at work as well as the energy to overcome the need to lay on the couch and eat bull**** food that does nothing for them. They are a supplement to trainging and dieting. But they do increase your metabolism and can increase your body core temp to burn calories while your at rest

Come join the EXTREME BODY CHALLENGE from Reaction Nutrition.

Win $1000.00

Anyone over 18 can enter. No matter what your goals are you should join the challenge. Its very easy, submit a before picture or pictures and a little bit about yourself to:

[url]http://www.reaction-nutrition.com/Pages/reaction_home.html[/url]

We want to help you change your life. If your already in shape it doesn't matter, there is always room to learn and improve.

[QUOTE=superman9169;270123671]I like that. That made me laugh. This forum is about ephedra free alternatives since I have been working in this industry and competeing as well as taking every over the counter supplement under the sun I feel that i have a pretty good idea of what works and what is hype.

This product is not hype it is new and it works plus if you go on there site you can enter a new EXTREME BODY CHALLENGE. I know the people that designed the products and the are legit.

[url]http://www.reaction-nutrition.com/Pages/reaction_home.html[/url][/QUOTE]

That itself was a pimp-out.

I just checked out Voodoo. Nothing special.

Give it a try I guarantee the results.

[QUOTE=superman9169;270143091]Give it a try I guarantee the results.[/QUOTE]

I'm already on Mito.

Your pimping is laughable.

Im trying to offer some actual advice on a great product. Im not trying to sell you snake oil. The picture I post is me after I placed 4th at the Natural USA's. I have been in this business for over 10 years. Take your mito and when your finished give Voodoo a shot. Your 19 i'm sure you havnt tried everything so what have you got to lose.

Between me and my family we have been in bodybuilding and nutrition since 1974. There is alot of knowledge so if you have any training questions or dieting feel free

[QUOTE=superman9169;270151461]Im trying to offer some actual advice on a great product. Im not trying to sell you snake oil. The picture I post is me after I placed 4th at the Natural USA's. I have been in this business for over 10 years. Take your mito and when your finished give Voodoo a shot. Your 19 i'm sure you havnt tried everything so what have you got to lose.

Between me and my family we have been in bodybuilding and nutrition since 1974. There is alot of knowledge so if you have any training questions or dieting feel free[/QUOTE]

You're right about my age and not trying everything.

Eventually the MODS will ask you to post your affiliation, though, just to let you know.

[QUOTE=Djin;268583951]I wake up all the time while on the black pills. Their main sleep aid is valerian root. Take a look about it. It's not like kava kava or anything along those lines, they just help "mellow" you out. But I have driven while on the black ones and had no issues... just felt "good". :)[/QUOTE]

yeah, they wont put you in a coma, but they will make sleep easier and more restful in the opinion of most :)

[QUOTE=superman9169;270151461]Im trying to offer some actual advice on a great product. Im not trying to sell you snake oil. The picture I post is me after I placed 4th at the Natural USA's. I have been in this business for over 10 years. Take your mito and when your finished give Voodoo a shot. Your 19 i'm sure you havnt tried everything so what have you got to lose.

Between me and my family we have been in bodybuilding and nutrition since 1974. There is alot of knowledge so if you have any training questions or dieting feel free[/QUOTE]

believe me, no pun intended but you're not gonna get much customers because

1) you posted this in every thread

2) you're red

I'm currently taking Lipo6X...it says do need exceed the maximum 4 pills a day. would it be that bad to take more than the recommended dosage? Cause im not really feeling the energy boost at all.

[QUOTE=superman9169;270151461]Im trying to offer some actual advice on a great product. Im not trying to sell you snake oil. The picture I post is me after I placed 4th at the Natural USA's. I have been in this business for over 10 years. Take your mito and when your finished give Voodoo a shot. Your 19 i'm sure you havnt tried everything so what have you got to lose.

Between me and my family we have been in bodybuilding and nutrition since 1974. There is alot of knowledge so if you have any training questions or dieting feel free[/QUOTE]

Don't spam 50 threads with the same lame ****.

[QUOTE=superman9169;270123671]I like that. That made me laugh. This forum is about ephedra free alternatives since I have been working in this industry and competeing as well as taking every over the counter supplement under the sun I feel that i have a pretty good idea of what works and what is hype.

This product is not hype it is new and it works plus if you go on there site you can enter a new EXTREME BODY CHALLENGE. I know the people that designed the products and the are legit.

[url]http://www.reaction-nutrition.com/Pages/reaction_home.html[/url][/QUOTE]

like the neuro/focus complex...DO NOT like the guggul extract

hey everyone..m currently on hydroxycut and will be shifting ti vpx redline liquicaps.I have mixed emotions (excited and scared) with the comments and blogs i've read about this product. hoe you guys can help

To set the record straight I was invited by Body Building.com to promote the EXTREME BODY CHALLENGE. That is what I posted on all the threads. I was not promoting myself. The quote that you keep repeating was said to one person to explain that I have the credentials to give some advice if anyone asked on dieting or training.

Thats all I was saying.

Sounds like you are getting a rough time Superman! I will say that I did take a look at your site and the voodoo looks like it would work. But why should I take it instead of a redline or hydroxycut? Give us a reason why! Thats all I'm asking. I dont want to pay for a second rate weightloss product.

[QUOTE=Willy24;270619271]But why should I take it instead of a redline or hydroxycut? Give us a reason why! [/QUOTE]

but why would you take hydroxycut anyways? lol

[QUOTE=superman9169;270588271]To set the record straight I was invited by Body Building.com to promote the EXTREME BODY CHALLENGE. That is what I posted on all the threads. I was not promoting myself. The quote that you keep repeating was said to one person to explain that I have the credentials to give some advice if anyone asked on dieting or training.

Thats all I was saying.[/QUOTE]

Don't promote **** all over. If they did ask you, wouldn't they make it an article? And not spam bull****?

[url]http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/2008/12/24/fda-warning-adulterated-fat-loss-supplements/[/url]

mmmm question

Wouldn't taking pills that contain caffeine conflict with creatine absorbtion and you usually suppose to take atleast on serving before a workout?

P.S. I lost 118 lbs but all i drank was coffee

[QUOTE=mingo3403;271836411]mmmm question

Wouldn't taking pills that contain caffeine conflict with creatine absorbtion and you usually suppose to take atleast on serving before a workout?

P.S. I lost 118 lbs but all i drank was coffee[/QUOTE]

Creatine. Do you take monohydrate?

I personally don't, and never will touch that ****... but that's just me. Grapefruits also conflict with the majority of things, but you still people eat grapefruits.

Don't worry about it. If you really want extra enegry, and added benefits to go with your creatine, take beta alanine.

Hey guys...currently looking for a decent fat burner. I recently purchased Sub-Q by Fusion. The pill intake is pretty intense...6 daily and they are pretty big and I have difficulty taking pills. Anyone have any suggestions to another fat burner that is as effective and a little easier to consume?

[QUOTE=quiksilver_28;272323431]Hey guys...currently looking for a decent fat burner. I recently purchased Sub-Q by Fusion. The pill intake is pretty intense...6 daily and they are pretty big and I have difficulty taking pills. Anyone have any suggestions to another fat burner that is as effective and a little easier to consume?[/QUOTE]

REDuction is 2 AM, 2 PM.
Meltdown is 3
Tetrazene Extreme

etc etc. Make sure you find the thermogenic that has what you're looking for in it. A lot of people take these in blind research and expect the weight to melt like snow in the summer.

The best thing to do is figure out where you are in your work out, what you want to achieve and what you need to get you there. Diet, work out, cardio and THEN a thermogenic to help you the last 10-15%.

Thermogenics only increase your metabolism by a few %... yeah it's nice to burn an extra 100 calories farting around doing nothing, but when you REALLY work, really have you diet in line, you'll see those 100 calories turn to 300. You can't expect it to help if you don't help yourself.

I found REDuction was good, I lost 21lbs in two months with it. Then I tried Animal Cuts. I only lost 3lbs in 21-days, but I also upped my calories to 3,000. So that was a win win for me too.

Good luck on your journey.

[QUOTE=mingo3403;271836411]mmmm question

Wouldn't taking pills that contain caffeine conflict with creatine absorbtion and you usually suppose to take atleast on serving before a workout?

P.S. I lost 118 lbs but all i drank was coffee[/QUOTE]

There is no conflict between creatine and caffeine

I'm looking for a good fat burner to transfer into from Mitotropin, per recommendations. Has anyone tried Lipodrene or Tetrazene? Thoughts?