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[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;371561741]not sure if you are talking to me (but since my post is above yours, I will assume so), but I never once said that at all. ;)[/QUOTE]
You're talking about two guys with a combined two posts. We appreciate your presence on the forum immensely
[QUOTE=95zj;371780421]I'm planning on stacking REDuction AM/PM with Species Nutrition Lipolyze. Anyone have any experience with the latter, or a similar stack?[/QUOTE]
try them both separately before attempting to stack the two
[QUOTE=opathal;372103221]You're talking about two guys with a combined two posts. We appreciate your presence on the forum immensely[/QUOTE]
glad to hear it as we are here to help our customers first and foremost. :)
[QUOTE=thrashertm;372048871]I'm about 163 now, at 5'11. I'm trying to get down to 145 or so (so I can show abs). I'm not real chunky - so what's the best fat burner option for me?
I'm leaning towards Lipo 6 at the moment.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Hi. I'd go with the new BetaStax or SX (SlimExtreme) by Anabolic Xtreme based on personal results however be careful with SX its hardcore so read up on it before you try it.
I used the old animal cuts with nice results so the new one should be even better. Look in to that as well.
p.s. I have not tried the fat burned by controlled labs because the ridiculous amount of pimping that it has in these forums makes me almost certain that its crap and I hate companies that overpimp.
[QUOTE=joshy22;372943391]Hi. I'd go with the new BetaStax or SX (SlimExtreme) by Anabolic Xtreme based on personal results however be careful with SX its hardcore so read up on it before you try it.
I used the old animal cuts with nice results so the new one should be even better. Look in to that as well.
p.s. I have not tried the fat burned by controlled labs because the ridiculous amount of pimping that it has in these forums makes me almost certain that its crap and I hate companies that overpimp.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the suggestion. I already ordered the Lipo 6, so I'll give it a try and report back. If it doesn't work, I may try SX since I'm hearing a lot of good things about it too.
Bit of advice please fellas....im currently using Maximuscle Thermobol, I cant post links but the ingredients is:
Per 1 capsule
Bitter Orange Peel (Citrus Aurantium) 325mg Vit B12 - Cyanocobalamin RDA - 20,000% 200?g
L-Tyrosine 300mg D-Biotin RDA -117% 180?g
Caffeine 153mg Chromium RDA (From Chromium Polynicotinate) 100?g
Green Tea extract(90% polyphenols) 100mg Capsaicin extract from Hot Cayenne pepper 120?g
Guarana seed power 12mg Vit B5 (D-Calcium Pantothenate) RDA - 500% 30mg
Bioperine? (Black pepper extract) 5mg Vit-B1 (Thiamin Hcl) RDA - 1786% 25mg
could anyone advise me whether I should or could stack another fat burner with the thermobol. If so which other fat burners would be safe to stack?
Thanks
I started taking Geen Tea Extract (I would drink it but I only like black and orange tea) 1 pill two times a day and have already lost 4lb in just under 3 weeks. I have a set caloric intake and have trained 7 days a week for 6 years. I've weighed 195 like a rock for 1 year so any weight loss can only be atributed to the Green Tea Supplement. It's very inexpensive (about $10 for a couple month supply) at your local Walgreens/CVS/WalMart....and its good for you to boot!! Like I said I lift 4 days and run/swim 3 days a week so It's not like I'm sitting on a couch hoping to burn calories through a magic pill. Each pill has a moderate 50mg of caffiene so theres no "super buzz" followed by a crash. Just thought I would throw that out there.
Gregory Stacey
From these previous comments, it seems like Slim Xtreme is one of the strongest if not the strongest fat burner here. Does it result in a lot of muscle loss? I want to keep as much lean mass from my bulk as possible.
Anyone taken Cytolean V2? Do you take it every day even non-workout days?
[QUOTE=shawn3087;372053571]try the new animal cuts formula
i tried the old one and was very good[/QUOTE]
Have you tried the new Animal Cuts formula yet?
[QUOTE=naturalguy;377684701]Have you tried the new Animal Cuts formula yet?[/QUOTE]
I was wondering the same thing. I'm trying to get some reviews on this product before I buy it.
[QUOTE=afterwind;379484061]I was wondering the same thing. I'm trying to get some reviews on this product before I buy it.[/QUOTE]
I've been wondering the same thing. I really liked the old formula; I lost 8 pounds on it. I hit a plateau before taking it and I was suprised at how well it worked. I didn't get all jittery, the only issue I had was taking the pills. I could take all five little ones at once no problem, it was the others that were a little large (but still managed). All in all a great product so I'm assuming the NEW formula has to be better.
If you're looking to really cut down fat then go with Mitotropin. Its ephedra free and has alot of all natural ingrediants in it which in turn means no crash. I've tried Lipo 6 black and even VPX Meltdown and those weren't bad they just caused me to get drowsy after a while and Mitotropin cut me up hardcore. no joke. Its good to follow up with Cytolean V2 as well which will help with more long-term fat reduction and IT ACTUALLY WORKS!
[QUOTE=Henweee;377667431]Anyone taken Cytolean V2? Do you take it every day even non-workout days?[/QUOTE]
Cytolean V2 is good stuff. You can take it on your off days, as it will still curve your appetite and do its job. What I do though is take it only on my workout days so it lasts longer and works better. You should try Mitotropin too.
[QUOTE=DNRCMO;379681971]I've been wondering the same thing. I really liked the old formula; I lost 8 pounds on it. I hit a plateau before taking it and I was suprised at how well it worked. I didn't get all jittery, the only issue I had was taking the pills. I could take all five little ones at once no problem, it was the others that were a little large (but still managed). All in all a great product so I'm assuming the NEW formula has to be better.[/QUOTE]
Just an fyi.........the new Animal Cuts formula is all easy to swallow capsules. You hit the nail on the head when you said you used it to get past a fat burning plateau. That is how fat burners should be used. The new formula is quite effective for that purpose.
[QUOTE=dressagerulz23;3050291]anyone know how HotRox, Lipo 6, Thermonex EF, or MeltDown Z14 compares to Zantrex (in terms of suppressing overeating)? i sure hope one of these works better, cuz i've head Zantrex is supposed to be pretty decent in terms of preventing overeating, but when my [B]"female hormones"[/B] :mad: kick in, i can f*cking max out on zantrex and still eat like 5,000-6,000 calories/day... :eek:
...a ****LOAD of food considering i'm a 5'3" female doing only like 30 min of cardio/day (due to injuries)... at least estrogen can't f*ck w/ me while i'm on ephedra :p but i obviously need to find another solution now that its banned[/QUOTE]
Seriously! Im on my woman time right now and usually have no problem with overeating but all I can think about lately is chocolate! haha. I'm supposed to be having 1500 cals a day and used as much will power as I could but still went over by 175 cals! its hard just gotta fight!! What helps me is good substitution. For example, eat right, be fit sugar free chocolate syrup (only 15 cals per 2tbsp) on 98% fat free popcorn or swiss miss sugar free hot cocoa (60 cals).
[QUOTE=naturalguy;381085781]Just an fyi.........the new Animal Cuts formula is all easy to swallow capsules. You hit the nail on the head when you said you used it to get past a fat burning plateau. That is how fat burners should be used. The new formula is quite effective for that purpose.[/QUOTE]
That's why I am looking at taking it. I took Lipo 6 for a while, but lost water weight and gained it all back while within a month or so. I started out at 240, and cut down to 205, but according to the Air Force measurements, I'm still considered overweight by their standards. For my weight I have to be under 200 pounds and I'm having problems losing that last 5-10 pounds so I can get back to where I was when I played basketball. Anyways thanks for the information on Animal Cuts. I will probably try it when I get paid again.
i have taken lipo-6 for about 8 weeks now and have lost a total of 18 lbs, (185) down to 167. Worked great. I have been a long term user of products from controlled labs ( I have personally bought several tubs of white flood, and have half of my gym taking it ). I am going back on a mass gain, but would like to hear some more on the Reduction PM. Would taking Recution PM and white flood not be too good?
I am currently working on my last day of Xenadrine Ultra. I get headache's and cant sleep, no matter how much I work out, which was in the form of my MMA training, Boxing, and running 12 miles every night for a couple weeks. I know it helped, but am iffy on the side effects.
Bought the night version of REDuction and Lipo 6, going to start that cycle to break up my second bottle of Xenadrine ultra. Will post results.
[QUOTE=msbaits;382001091]i have taken lipo-6 for about 8 weeks now and have lost a total of 18 lbs, (185) down to 167. Worked great. I have been a long term user of products from controlled labs ( I have personally bought several tubs of white flood, and have half of my gym taking it ). I am going back on a mass gain, but would like to hear some more on the Reduction PM. Would taking Recution PM and white flood not be too good?[/QUOTE]
that would be fine as REDuction PM is stimulant free
[QUOTE=LIGHTNINGBLITZ;382066351]I am currently working on my last day of Xenadrine Ultra. I get headache's and cant sleep, no matter how much I work out, which was in the form of my MMA training, Boxing, and running 12 miles every night for a couple weeks. I know it helped, but am iffy on the side effects.
Bought the night version of REDuction and Lipo 6, going to start that cycle to break up my second bottle of Xenadrine ultra. Will post results.[/QUOTE]
looking forward to your REDuction experiences. :)
To those taking Lipo 6, does anyone have this crazy hunger pangs every now and then? or sometimes feeling like you overate and you're about to throw (e.g. the food is at the edge of your throat?).
Wouldn't Slim Xtreme + Green Tea Pills + REDuction PM make for a great stack?
Hydroxycut Hardcore did wonders for me but no longer on the market. I am gonna try isatori MX-LS7 next or S.A.N. Tight. They look good going by reviews.
[QUOTE=John_Jacobs;383308531]Wouldn't Slim Xtreme + Green Tea Pills + REDuction PM make for a great stack?[/QUOTE]
why not just go with REDuction am/pm? simpler and very effective.
in regards to reduction PM... i like using other products for the AM stuff, whether it be SX or lip-6black but the question is... since nothing is taken past 4-5pm, how does REDuction PM work?
CL rep - what exactly does REDuction PM do that would be beneficial to me?
[QUOTE=John_Jacobs;383308531]Wouldn't Slim Xtreme + Green Tea Pills + REDuction PM make for a great stack?[/QUOTE]
Slim Xtreme is already extremely loaded with heavy stuff, so be very carefull. If you really want something extra, take either just green tea or Reduction pm, but never any other kind of weight loss product unless you don't care about your health.
I just finished my first magic bottle of Slim Xtreme after 3 months!!! It kept my weight under control when I wasn't exercising and kicked them out when I was doing even the smallest efforts, like working in my garden. This is really extreme :D
But I also have to mention, the magic works with water, so drink lots of it. Find a brand you like and drink it like there's nothing else left to drink on the planet!
[QUOTE=majormods;387030331]CL rep - what exactly does REDuction PM do that would be beneficial to me?[/QUOTE]
LOL, it makes you dream, like you never dreamed before. I got dreams from it, although I didn't have any in a long time. So I'm guessing it makes your sleep worth more than usual?
[b]Anabolic Slim Extreme[/b]
SX Proprietary Blend 450mg
Ingredients:
Cocoa Seed concentrate, Methylxanthine equal to 113mg caffeine/capsule, AminoSlim-4? (Acetylated Tyrosine, Carnitine Salt, Proline Analog [Phenyl-pyrrolidinyltoluene], Hydroxylated Tryptophan), Apple Cider Vinegar Carboxylates (standardized for pyroglutamic and citric acids), Ginseng Root extract (standardized to 80% ginsenosides), Aneurin DBE? (Thiamine disulfide butyrate ester), Acai Berry 4:1 extract (standardized to 10% polyphenolic antioxidants), Cha'de Bugre 10:1 extract (standardized for purine metabolites)
since when do these NOT include caffeine as an added stimulant?
[QUOTE=majormods;387030331]in regards to reduction PM... i like using other products for the AM stuff, whether it be SX or lip-6black but the question is... since nothing is taken past 4-5pm, how does REDuction PM work?
CL rep - what exactly does REDuction PM do that would be beneficial to me?[/QUOTE]
it will help with a multitude of benefits including, thermogenesis, appetite reduction and sleep/feeling well rested
[QUOTE=Nivea;387371131]
LOL, it makes you dream, like you never dreamed before. I got dreams from it, although I didn't have any in a long time. So I'm guessing it makes your sleep worth more than usual?[/QUOTE]
glad your enjoying it :D
I started taking a stack which I felt would be very effective, but so far it hasn't given me much of a boost, last year I was on/off rapidcuts all year (wasn't consistent) but slowly I got resistance to the energy rush and what not because I wasn't using them properly. Anyways here's what I was stacking, maybe I've been doing something wrong, but it isn't helping me and would love some advice on what fat burner I should switch as base or anything in the stack I should change.
I take VPX Redline liquid caps, Omega 3 caps, Lean X-treme caps, ALC caps, L-Carnitine caps and CLA caps. I pretty much followed this (originally I was going to use VPX meltdown as shown, but they [Company on Ebay] shipped me Redline instead, I complained, but never got a response from them again so I was like whatever).
Routine (found it on google a few months ago):
6:30 AM - Wake Up - 1 Capsule of VPX Meltdown, 4 Green Tea Capsules, 4 L-Carnitine Capsules-3 Multi Spectrum EFA Caps
7:00 AM - Cardio for 20 Minutes on Stationary Bike
8:00 AM - Breakast(Protein Shake)6-8 Fiber Capsules, 6 CLA Caps
10:30 AM - 1 Capsule of VPX Meltdown, 4 Green Tea Capsules, 4 Acetyl-L Carnitine Caps, 3 Multi Spectrum EFA Caps
12:00 PM - Lunch(Tuna and Green Veggies)-6-8 Fiber Capsules, 6 CLA Caps
1:30 PM - 1 Capsule of VPX Meltdown, 4 Green Tea Capsules, 4 Acetyl-L Carnitine Caps, 3 Multi Spectrum EFA Caps
4:00 PM - Meal 3(Tuna and Green Veggies)-6-8 Fiber Capsules, 6 CLA Caps
5:00 PM - 1 Capsule of VPX Meltdown, 4 Green Tea Capsules, 4 Acetyl-L Carnitine Caps, 3 Multi Spectrum EFA Caps
8:00 PM - Meal 4(Lean Meat and Green Veggies/Salad)-6-8 Fiber Capsules, 6 CLA Caps
9:30 PM - Cardio for 20 Minutes on Stationary Bike(Cardio twice a day on non training days)
I don't wake up that early (usually 9-10) as I'm in university so nights get late, but I've been trying to keep my diet as clean as possible while doing cardio and working out almost every single day. Any advice on what I should change in my fat burning supplements would be great as they're not working, I even tried taking 3 caps of Redline, but no rush whatsoever.
sounds like ur body built up a tolerance or resistance to the redline pills. I never got any effect from taking the REDLINE pills but i do fully support many of the other VPX products. I just bought Slim Xtreme based on a TON of good reviews. You could look into Lipo6-Black and see if thats up ur alley.
would it be okay taking that ecen though im only 19? i read that i should be 21 somewhere around here..