Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

[QUOTE=Djin;175674821]Lipo6X is more time released... "pill inside a pill".

A few other minor things, but that's pretty much it.[/QUOTE]
Are both as effective?
lipo 6 is like $10 less than lipo6x

[QUOTE=Zero000;3074200]Im very fat, what should i do. I can't see my dick.[/QUOTE]

HA-HA-HA!! DICKEY-DOO DISEASE!!

"What's up, Fletcher?"
"YOUR CHOLESTEROL, FATTY!! DEAD MAN WALKING!"

Im gonna put that in my signature block! LMAO!

Could supplements like Lipo 6x and Antro Phex show up on a drug test as an amphetamine?

[QUOTE=TjCJ;176145151]Could supplements like Lipo 6x and Antro Phex show up on a drug test as an amphetamine?[/QUOTE]

No Senor.

im still an ephedra fan
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[QUOTE=latinchinese;175995611]Are both as effective?
lipo 6 is like $10 less than lipo6x[/QUOTE]

I personally found Lipo6(X) work better when stacked with a thermogenic. But both are pretty decent for what they do.

You DO go to the bathroom a lot, and you will deficate fat.

i just had my first day of lipo. it hit my stomach right away. i felt a lil woozy but not too bad. ive been pretty hungry all day but this is prolly due to reduced amount of food intake. i had a really good pump and i seemed a little more define d but that was prolly due to the psychological factor.

[QUOTE=smalltimejosh;171702831]so whats the best fat burner that melts off the fat but doesnt affect muscle[/QUOTE]

Someone answer this please?? I have heard good things about Methyl Ripped, but that was a while ago.

[QUOTE=Greg2230;177183021]Someone answer this please?? I have heard good things about Methyl Ripped, but that was a while ago.[/QUOTE]

Cardio. Just kidding.

Meltdown, Tetrazene Extreme... pretty much any fat burner. As long as you actually stay active in working out, you won't have to worry about your muscle.

Fat and muscle are a lot different then each other. So it would be pretty difficult for a pill to breakdown muscle, unless (like I said above) you're not active at all.

[QUOTE=Djin;176803881]I personally found Lipo6(X) work better when stacked with a thermogenic. But both are pretty decent for what they do.

You DO go to the bathroom a lot, and you will deficate fat.[/QUOTE]
is it from the BF or the fat we consume daily? it sounds nasty lol
BTW I'm gonna run it standalone

[QUOTE=latinchinese;177381241]is it from the BF or the fat we consume daily? it sounds nasty lol
BTW I'm gonna run it standalone[/QUOTE]

I think both. I know you can "poop" out fat. I'm also pretty sure it helps prevent your body with the fat you eat...? Someone correct me if I'm mistaken.

I've just came off a 4 month injury and have gained a loaddddd of fat but also lost a fair amount of muscle. My friends who body builds has been telling me to take some Clenbuterols but my other friend is telling me to take some Ephedrines and then once i'm on my 2 weeks rest to start a cycle of Methyl 1 test. Thought i'd ask the people who knew what they were on about before i went out and started it.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Anders17;177694551]I've just came off a 4 month injury and have gained a loaddddd of fat but also lost a fair amount of muscle. My friends who body builds has been telling me to take some Clenbuterols but my other friend is telling me to take some Ephedrines and then once i'm on my 2 weeks rest to start a cycle of Methyl 1 test. Thought i'd ask the people who knew what they were on about before i went out and started it.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

You sure you haven't been out of the loop for several years?

There are many things out there that are a lot safer and easier to get.

[quote]Clenbuterol is a drug prescribed to sufferers of breathing disorders as a decongestant and bronchodilator.[/quote]

So why would you want a drug for a breathing disorder? Could you tell us a little more about your size? Height and weight would help A LOT.

You're also 17 years old, so weight lose at your age should just fly right off with a little work. And now you want to use Methyl 1, which is a prohormone... again, at age 17, you shouldn't be thinking about things like this.

Why not eat a lot of protein, cut the junk-food, start pressing iron and start cardio.

[QUOTE=Djin;177702871]You sure you haven't been out of the loop for several years?

There are many things out there that are a lot safer and easier to get.



So why would you want a drug for a breathing disorder? Could you tell us a little more about your size? Height and weight would help A LOT.

You're also 17 years old, so weight lose at your age should just fly right off with a little work. And now you want to use Methyl 1, which is a prohormone... again, at age 17, you shouldn't be thinking about things like this.

Why not eat a lot of protein, cut the junk-food, start pressing iron and start cardio.[/QUOTE]

I agree with the above statement dude. Dont mess with clenbuterol. Yes it does cut the body fat fast but its extremely dangerous. Most of the people that use this for fat cutting purposes are women in hollywood and Pro bodybuilders. At the age of 17 u shouldnt be thinking about this. Methyl 1 is a great product. May favorite ive done it 2x. But again for the age of 17 your body already has a high amount of testosterone and you should be fine with protein, cardio, and eating well. Just utilize the proper times for protein. In the morning, 1 hour before work out, right after workout and at bed. You will see nice gains this way.

Okay,

So which is the better one to use....

Hydroxycut, Lipo 6, or Animal Cuts...

I am currently looking for a good cutter to add to my program...

5'9" 165 lbs

13.23 % bf according to tape measure method...

In addition I am already on a multivitamin daily, and whey protein powder... Any advice would be great

I'm 5'9" 215 to 220. I strength train 3 days a week and cardio 5. I am looking to cut some fat to get down to a good playing weight for a football all-star game this july. I have just started taking arson and was wondering if it would be a good idea to stack with lipo-6x. totally new at the supplement game but have been lifting since i was 13.

[QUOTE=skalnik;177853941]Okay,

So which is the better one to use....

Hydroxycut, Lipo 6, or Animal Cuts...

I am currently looking for a good cutter to add to my program...

5'9" 165 lbs

13.23 % bf according to tape measure method...

In addition I am already on a multivitamin daily, and whey protein powder... Any advice would be great[/QUOTE]

I would go with Animal Cuts... it's MORE then just a thermogenic. I'd suggest reading the information about it. I believe it would help you greatly since you're at a nice low % of body fat.

[QUOTE=MHS4513;177860321]I'm 5'9" 215 to 220. I strength train 3 days a week and cardio 5. I am looking to cut some fat to get down to a good playing weight for a football all-star game this july. I have just started taking arson and was wondering if it would be a good idea to stack with lipo-6x. totally new at the supplement game but have been lifting since i was 13.[/QUOTE]

I've stacked Arson with Lipo6X. Lost something like 12lbs in a month. ;)

Have you thought you might be training too much? There's a great article in the beginning of this site... saying "Too much might not be good..." (Or something along those lines)

ive been on lipo6 for almost a month and im thinking of getting another month of fat burner. Im stuck between another lipo6, MAN Scorch, Animal Cuts, or REDuction.... Im 6'2 194 trying to lose maybe another 5-10 pounds or so then after this months cycle im going to start creatine again. Im active almost everyday swimming alot as a lifeguard but i will be hittin the gym and runnin as well. Also an energy boost is a big plus because i have to get up pretty early for work so.

I used to use Hydroxycut w/ Ephedra back in the day and that worked great for me then.
Now I am using Lipo-6x.

With my current program, I have been using 1lb/day since I started this monday!
I am thinking teh new program I am doing plus help with Lipo-6x will help me achieve my cutting goal for the summer!

Lipo-6x at least definitely gives me energy throughout the day!

today was my third day using lipo and each day ive lost a lb. and half a day. my vascularity is sick and im toning (a bit) even its been a bit because my i never had veins on my biceps but today they were showin so far lipo is working great i hope keeps up.

from all these testimonials, looks like lip 6 is the way to go.

I have been on scorch/vaporize for less than a week and I have shed about 5 pounds. I dont have the effects like with hydroxycut so i am very happy so far. I am going to start weights again soon so I should notice a big difference

[QUOTE=Djin;177393681]I think both. I know you can "poop" out fat. I'm also pretty sure it helps prevent your body with the fat you eat...? Someone correct me if I'm mistaken.[/QUOTE]

actually from what a dr told me... fat cells have to be removed. they grow and shrink in the body. studies indicate that after puberty that you have all the fat cells you are going to have, others say you are born with "x" amount for life. lipo/surgey is the only way to change that. so "pooping" out bodyfat shouldnt really happen... again from what i understand...

[QUOTE=aggrivator;178100761]actually from what a dr told me... fat cells have to be removed. they grow and shrink in the body. studies indicate that after puberty that you have all the fat cells you are going to have, others say you are born with "x" amount for life. lipo/surgey is the only way to change that. so "pooping" out bodyfat shouldnt really happen... again from what i understand...[/QUOTE]

well if you can shrink them to where they are damn near invisible...

[QUOTE=Bas85;177939671]from all these testimonials, looks like lip 6 is the way to go.[/QUOTE]

I am on my second bottle of Lipo-6X and I've got no complaints. I've felt no jitters or added anxiety. (I'm not sure if that means it working smoothly or not at all!)


(A little of topic, but...)
As of yesterday, I threw in MuscleTech's Hydrazide to see if it helps lean me out any further prior (just for the heck of it). I'm on day two of that stack and I've noticed I almost doubled my water intake.

i think i should mess with it. Ive gotten down to 172lbs and i havent measured my body fat lately but last i checked i was at around 14%. Should i stack this with something or am i just fine with the Lipo 6?

[QUOTE=Bas85;178147921]i think i should mess with it. Ive gotten down to 172lbs and i havent measured my body fat lately but last i checked i was at around 14%. Should i stack this with something or am i just fine with the Lipo 6?[/QUOTE]

Personally, I'd give the first bottle a shot on it's own, see how things progress.

Good Luck!

-Ant

[QUOTE=aggrivator;178100761]actually from what a dr told me... fat cells have to be removed. they grow and shrink in the body. studies indicate that after puberty that you have all the fat cells you are going to have, others say you are born with "x" amount for life. lipo/surgey is the only way to change that. so "pooping" out bodyfat shouldnt really happen... again from what i understand...[/QUOTE]

I also read that they are finding out that fat cells die and are replaced too. I guess that "fat" I was thinking of is what you eat...?

Alright so my penny pinching ways got the best of me... I went to the local generally overpriced store by my house and they had a sticker sale on hot rox for 12.79 out the door.

Anybody use this with results? What should I expect?

[QUOTE=Warneckutz;178149641]Personally, I'd give the first bottle a shot on it's own, see how things progress.

Good Luck!

-Ant[/QUOTE]

Thanx ill probably pick it up this weekend along with some new protein that i need.

[QUOTE=Bas85;178147921]i think i should mess with it. Ive gotten down to 172lbs and i havent measured my body fat lately but last i checked i was at around 14%. Should i stack this with something or am i just fine with the Lipo 6?[/QUOTE]

lipo is a good way to go. every supplement does effect people differently but... i started at 200 even ,and im not at 14% body fat like you say you are, and im sorry if people are getting a little annoyed by me posting all the time but today is my fourth day and im down 194 lbs. i cant believe it! no sides at all good pumps and definition and vascularity and im not even stacking it with anything. id recommend it

[QUOTE=willfstar;178368901]lipo is a good way to go. every supplement does effect people differently but... i started at 200 even ,and im not at 14% body fat like you say you are, and im sorry if people are getting a little annoyed by me posting all the time but today is my fourth day and im down 194 lbs. i cant believe it! no sides at all good pumps and definition and vascularity and im not even stacking it with anything. id recommend it[/QUOTE]

I had good results when I stacked Lipo6X with Tetrazene Extreme. It was almost shocking how the weight was coming off.

Now my body is fighting me tooth and nail about losing even a single pound.

[QUOTE=Djin;178391911]I had good results when I stacked Lipo6X with Tetrazene Extreme. It was almost shocking how the weight was coming off.

Now my body is fighting me tooth and nail about losing even a single pound.[/QUOTE]


once you dropped pounds where you trying to put back on solid pounds? im trying to lose bad body fat especially around my stomach but i would like to put solid weight and mass back on once im finished. I was just wondering if once you were finished using lipo if the bad pounds came back. My friend took hydroxycut and said that bodyfat came right back after he stopped taking it.

[QUOTE=willfstar;178413911]once you dropped pounds where you trying to put back on solid pounds? im trying to lose bad body fat especially around my stomach but i would like to put solid weight and mass back on once im finished. I was just wondering if once you were finished using lipo if the bad pounds came back. My friend took hydroxycut and said that bodyfat came right back after he stopped taking it.[/QUOTE]

Nope. I'm still dropping weight. I still have body fat on my... pictures are in my bodyspace profile. I'm trying to lose the stubborn weight in my chest and around my mid section.

And no, never had weight come back after stopping a thermo.

did anyone take lipo on nontraining days? didnt say on bottle but i took it today anyway

You're suppose to take it every day... even on non-training days.

[QUOTE=willfstar;179036531]did anyone take lipo on nontraining days? didnt say on bottle but i took it today anyway[/QUOTE]

Yes. I take two pills, twice a day regardless.

Ok, I am trying to lose fat and I have a lot of it. I am a 29 yr old female, 5'3" and about 195-200lbs (gross I know). Which supplement (s) would someone with more experience recommend. I have heard good things about Controlled Labs REDuction. Should I give that a try? Any advice would be great as I would love to shed some of this fat before the big 3-0 in four months. Thanks guys!

-Kimberlee

Hey i was thinking about Lipo 6x and CLA together?? Anyone taken this together??? what are the results uve seen.

[QUOTE=kds10678;179209971]Ok, I am trying to lose fat and I have a lot of it. I am a 29 yr old female, 5'3" and about 195-200lbs (gross I know). Which supplement (s) would someone with more experience recommend. I have heard good things about Controlled Labs REDuction. Should I give that a try? Any advice would be great as I would love to shed some of this fat before the big 3-0 in four months. Thanks guys!

-Kimberlee[/QUOTE]

I've personally been slapped in the forehead as a sucker. I have tried time after time tons of different supplements and actually have had some great success with some.

I will tell you that Meltdown isn't as good as every makes it. When I was taking it, I felt great the first day (take three pills once a day), then the next day nothing. I doubled my dose to 3 pills twice a day, still nothing.

Four days on REDuction, lost two pounds... Now I do jog, weight train and I am active, but I will say that the REDuction (so far) has a good appetite suppressant and there's a 24 hour AM/PM pill which I find is pretty groovy.

I've had good experience with Lipo6X stacked with Tetrazene Extreme. Also stacked Lipo6X with MAN Scorch.

If you want to get a better idea about REDuction, there's a log I'm doing (check my signature at the bottom) you can track and check. There's also a few other people who are also doing a log for REDuction.

But bottom line would be eatting several meals through the day, cutting the crap and upping the water intake. I can easily down 1 - 1 /2 gallons of water a day like nothing. :) I also eat a lot of chicken and turkey.

What do you do for any cardio or weight training? Or are you green to everything?

[QUOTE=Bas85;179218641]Hey i was thinking about Lipo 6x and CLA together?? Anyone taken this together??? what are the results uve seen.[/QUOTE]


I personnally love CLA...

For me it seems to truly help you keep up my little build while I keep high amounts of cardio in my workout...

[QUOTE=Djin;179235661]I've personally been slapped in the forehead as a sucker. I have tried time after time tons of different supplements and actually have had some great success with some.

I will tell you that Meltdown isn't as good as every makes it. When I was taking it, I felt great the first day (take three pills once a day), then the next day nothing. I doubled my dose to 3 pills twice a day, still nothing.

Four days on REDuction, lost two pounds... Now I do jog, weight train and I am active, but I will say that the REDuction (so far) has a good appetite suppressant and there's a 24 hour AM/PM pill which I find is pretty groovy.

I've had good experience with Lipo6X stacked with Tetrazene Extreme. Also stacked Lipo6X with MAN Scorch.

If you want to get a better idea about REDuction, there's a log I'm doing (check my signature at the bottom) you can track and check. There's also a few other people who are also doing a log for REDuction.

But bottom line would be eatting several meals through the day, cutting the crap and upping the water intake. I can easily down 1 - 1 /2 gallons of water a day like nothing. :) I also eat a lot of chicken and turkey.

What do you do for any cardio or weight training? Or are you green to everything?[/QUOTE]

I am trying to get back into running. I used to run 3 miles two or three times a week until I got a stress fracture in my right leg late last year. I try to do cardio 3x a week for 45 mins. I just started weight training 1 month ago. I only go 2x a week. I ordered some REDuction (thanks for info!) and once it gets here, I will weight train 3x a week. I am not sure if I should keep cardio at 3x a week, increase, decrease???

[QUOTE=Djin;179235661] Also stacked Lipo6X with MAN Scorch.

If you want to get a better idea about REDuction, there's a log I'm doing (check my signature at the bottom) you can track and check. There's also a few other people who are also doing a log for REDuction.

But bottom line would be eatting several meals through the day, cutting the crap and upping the water intake. I can easily down 1 - 1 /2 gallons of water a day like nothing. :) I also eat a lot of chicken and turkey.[/QUOTE]

I just noticed this post. I was stacking both the Lipo-6x and MAN Scorch as well - I think it's a good combo too.

I'm very interested in trying the REDuction after this upcoming competition is over, C.L. always has quality products.

isatori mx-ls7

Anyone tried out Gaspari Nutrition Cytolean?

We've tried Hydroxycut Hardcore, Lipo-6, and Ripped fuel Xtreme. We're fairly happy with all of them but we're stationed overseas and have difficulty getting some things on the base - it's hit and miss sometimes so usually must buy whatever is on the BX shelf that week. We ordered a one month supply (through this site) of isatori MX-LS7 about 3 weeks ago - still hasn't arrived yet though. We've read some reviews on this stuff and it sounds pretty good. Does anyone have any experience with this that they care to share? Are we buying into marketing "hype"?

Try Lean system 7

Working a treat for me

[QUOTE=Warneckutz;179397351]I just noticed this post. I was stacking both the Lipo-6x and MAN Scorch as well - I think it's a good combo too.

I'm very interested in trying the REDuction after this upcoming competition is over, C.L. always has quality products.[/QUOTE]

I've stacked a lot of things together, but in four days I lost 2lbs with REDuction. Something I was trying to do with Meltdown for almost a month.

I didn't change anything but the supplement in my daily routine.

[QUOTE=Djin;179710961]I've stacked a lot of things together, but in four days I lost 2lbs with REDuction. Something I was trying to do with Meltdown for almost a month.

I didn't change anything but the supplement in my daily routine.[/QUOTE]

ant argue with that, REDuction is the most underrated fat burner on the market :)

we do have free samples of it in the link in my signature below for those who are interested :)