Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

THERMOREXIN There is no substitute.

Man's SCORCH

so what is better scorch or thermorexin... and also what is it you mean when u say that scorch gives you a "good feeling"...does thermrexin do the same???

Synephrine can raise blood pressure like Ephedra. So of the fat burners that exclude both which is the best?

I like RedLine

I think our H.E.A.T. ([url]www.mindandmuscle.net/page.php?pageID=235[/url] for those interested) can give either Scorch or Thermorexin serious runs for their money in terms of efficacy, while also offering a repartitioner/appetite suppressant that is far more BP/RQ friendly compared to other thermogenics on the market.

And yes, I am more than willing to defend &/or elaborate on this claim if need be...

For my money, I am going with Scorch. Great energy, mood, appetite suppression and noticable decrease in bodyfat. Solid ingredient profile and doses. The only thing a little iffy on it is the Olive leaf Extract, other than that, what more could you ask for?

Ok well it seems like the 2 most popular are Scorch and T-Rex so between those 2 which one is better and why? Also how do they compaire to each other.

example: Scorch has this that and the other while T-Rex has this and the other but in place of that it has blank.

Something like that then vote for which is better. Also could someone provide a link for T-Rex? I can Scorch but not T-Rex

[QUOTE=naeem]there is a supplement called magic herb it helped me to lose 23 pounds in one and a half month[/QUOTE]


Yeah and monkeys are gonna fly outta my ass.

Well, unless 'magic herb' is the new going term for 2,4-dinitrophenol...

Yeah...speaking of magic herb...not going to go there....make your own joke about it being 4:20 and that it wouldn't make you lose weight cause it'd give you the munchies.

up your metabs, throw in some 7 oxo, a round of ECA/Y , 3x45 mins cardio a week, 10 mins cardio after weights and a SOLID CLEAN diet , man your fat will melt like ice on a heating range.
Want to get more chiseled, try lipoderm Y and Absolved !!! ... those are the dope.
LY for lower body ...glutes and thighs
Ab for abs
My 2cents!
What worked for me ... 2 MONTHS OF STACKER 2 W/ephedra
Does anyone know where to get some stacker 2 w ephedra, therez a lot in the market left all underground though :(

How come it says to take it with a meal but everyone says to take it before or after a meal on an empty stomach?

FAQ

Q.How many Thermorexin should I start with?
A.Start with 1 capsule the first day with your first meal.

You can take it between meals. That's no problem. The problem is when people get up in the morning and take it before morning cardio on a completely empty stomach. THAT's when you can experience nausea. So if you're a morning cardio buff we suggest a banana before you take it.

T-rex was gay for me, I'd take it in the morning and if I didnt eat in 15 minutes I'd puke everywhere. So that pissed me off, and the energy was no where to be found...unless you drank 8 gallons of water, which would give you energy anyways. I want to try scorch but im afraid the appetite supress in it wont be strong enough, cause the only thing that kills my appetite is the flu, or if I were in a coma.

[QUOTE=blondeErin]T-rex was gay for me, I'd take it in the morning and if I didnt eat in 15 minutes I'd puke everywhere. So that pissed me off, and the energy was no where to be found...unless you drank 8 gallons of water, which would give you energy anyways.[/QUOTE]

IamCANADIANeh? If you read the 11 logs written by other members here on the Review board you find people really enjoying Trex and what it does for them. Here are a few and you can see that unlike blondErin the majority of those who use it correctly get lots of energy and thermogenic effect. Keep in mind that blondErin has 4 posts and all of them are bashing Thermorexin so he's most likely a "friend" of a competing product.

[QUOTE=super]Well tomorrow Is my last day of taking Thermorexin. All I can say I liked it very much.

My appitite went down while on it.
My energy really increased, I was able to run/workout alot longer.
My starting weight was 228, and now I'm down to 223 so I lost 5 pounds in two weeks not bad.

Overall this product does what it says and I'm glad I was part of the expirement.

I hope this is the results you were hoping for.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigJoe15]Havent updated in a while, gotta say that Im still enjoying this product alot. Ive actually started to enjoy my cardio sessions, Ive replaced running with skipping as I find it alot more enjoyable (plus its easier just to take a rope and start jumping over it lol). Everytime I use this product I notice a great feeling of energy which lasts, and doesnt cause me to crash out once it wears off! I have also had a decrease in bodyfat, my water intake has increased so I know it isnt just a loss of water retention.
Nice product- BigJoe[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=KrNPumP]i apologize for the delayed update.

took the usual 2 caps with cex 30min to workout. fridays are my shoulder days. 10min of light cardio as warm up. moved onto shoulders. started out on the military bench. the lifts went very well as usual. lastly, i went on the elliptical for 20min at med-high intensity. alot of sweating as usual. i was pretty tired prior to working out due to work, but the t-rex helped me power thru it. good stuff.[/QUOTE]

Without a doubt it would have to be Thermorexin for me. It kicked my ass when I was using it. Definitely two thumbs up from me.

Ulter, I read all the posts on this fourm plus some on others (peoples logs) and they all seemed to like it. I have no doubt that it works (that many people can't be wrong) I also heard good things about Scorch (and Tight) so that is why I was wondering which is better. Then this morning I figured I'd find out myself and try them all myself. Obviously with an off cycle between the different products. I was just confused because everyone who has taken it has said to take it on an empty stomach but in the bb.com store it says with food so I just wanted to straighten that out.

for me, none of the ephedra free **** worked...that muscletech stuff was garbage. original ripped fuel and the old xenedrine where the best for me. now though, i take ephedrine HCL and that **** is bomb. i can buy it at the corner store in packs of 60 for $8. i'm gonna give tight and lipo 6 a try, i just do't know which one first! i think i'll go with the san because their ephedrine they had in the past was some quality stuff. ephedrine hcl is no joke. synthetic pharmaceuticals rawk! i've lost 65lbs this year from dieting and ephedrine hcl...nothing else...i'll be getting into a gym this week for the first time in 6 years.

Does anyone know if MAN Scorch is available from a Canadian supplier? If not have any Canadians got it through Customs without problems?

Big bump to this last post


I am wondering the same exact thing!


Any online canadian supplier for Man Scorch or Lipo-6 LiquiCaps?!

In fact.. after seeing the ''illegal'' stuff in Canada.. Yohimbe (lipo-6) and DHEA (Man Scorch) are PROHIBATED in Canada so i think most store just won't sell them so they don't have any problems..

I succeed to import Lipo-6 from body building dot com, but received my order 2 weeks late due to customs and I ****ted my pants that Custom would take back the order because of the little 3 mg of Yohimbe per serving

Hopefully, next time i order, this will again arrive to destination maybe late, but without any problem. Well.. my fingers will always be crossed

I know you can get SAN Tight from a place in Canada. PM me if you'd like the link. I'm going to be trying to get some Scorch and/or T-Rex and/or VasoPro through the border, let's hope it's successful. I just bought some protien on here and those damn commie bastards kept it a week and a half. If anyone has gotten any of these over let us know.

[QUOTE=Zero000]Im very fat, what should i do. I can't see my dick.[/QUOTE]

Well, I suggest you start doing hard cardio about 3 hours a day for 15 weeks. great post. ahaahahhah

I like SAN Tight

Gaspari Nutrition - KetoBurn7
Heats up the body and speeds up the thyroid

fat burners are bull**** and a waste of money i'm sorry. the only thing they do is surpress ur appetite. so basically, all u have to do is drink alot of caffine and dont eat.... or just run which is the healthy way

[QUOTE=Malgavito]can you buy ephedra and other supplements in Canada and Mexico?[/QUOTE]

they dont have any fat burners with ephedrine in them in canada but you can buy bottles of little ephedrine pill i think theyre 8mg
they dont have nearly as many fat burners here as they do in the states
has anyone tried fat wars

[QUOTE=jkygogo]Does anyone have links where I can buy Ephedra supplements from Canada or Mexico?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]


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hallo

u dont need to buy it in mexico, u can get it here, ephedrine hcl, but make sure u have u have trouble breathing bc thats what its intended for!!!.

what sites sell ephedrine hcl?
i looked for it on ******** which used to carry it really cheap but they ran out.

any help would be awesome. also any notes about ordering if you don'tr have trouble breathing?

Thank you

Hydroxycut by Muscletech is the best ephedra free fat burner on the market. I myself lost 75 lbs in 5 months taking it, combined with diet and excercise of course. I went from 250lbs to 175 lbs. This stuff really gives you the energy you need to do extra cardio that you normally would not be able to do.

have you guys tried the creams for fat loss? ive only got a 6 pack right now and i want to make it 8, im pretty lean everywhere else. ive thought about trying the topical fat burners but i need to know if they work or not before i go waste my money.

heres a link to a couple of products:
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/transfat.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Crazyhouz195]Hydroxycut by Muscletech is the best ephedra free fat burner on the market. I myself lost 75 lbs in 5 months taking it, combined with diet and excercise of course. I went from 250lbs to 175 lbs. This stuff really gives you the energy you need to do extra cardio that you normally would not be able to do.[/QUOTE]

got some before and after photos? Cause IMO, Hydroxycut was absolute Chit, didnt feel or get a single benefit from it and it was damn expensive too!

t2 runs about 29.99

Being a newbie to the forum, I haven't found the reasoning why peeps are downing on Animal products....personally, I love them...I take Animal Cuts on an empty stomach in the morning right before my cardio...and I'm a cardio machine after that....I also take the animal pak and I have another animal product on its way to me....

Cuts doesn't give me that nervous "high" that San Tight or Xenadrine does....

I'm cautious about using any of these products at length because long term messing around with your nervous system and thyroid will definitely cause problems....

So I cycle on and off Cuts...and make sure to take some remedies to help detox the liver....

But, one peep said it right..really focus on the diet and training above anythin else....

[QUOTE=Deviator]ANIMAL Cuts Epehdra free by Universal.

Animal cuts have been designed to not only burn fat but to decrease water retention which is often overlooked in the fatloss supplement industry. Animal Cuts are very "smooth" and will alow you to use them at work and at home with the kids without getting too edgy which is vital to anyone with a life outside nutrition and bodybuilding. There is alot of other reasons to choose ANIMAL Cuts over the rest but finding that out will be up to you to do for yourself.

[url]www.animalpak.com[/url] for more details[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OlympiaKat]Being a newbie to the forum, I haven't found the reasoning why peeps are downing on Animal products....personally, I love them...I take Animal Cuts on an empty stomach in the morning right before my cardio...and I'm a cardio machine after that....I also take the animal pak and I have another animal product on its way to me....

Cuts doesn't give me that nervous "high" that San Tight or Xenadrine does....

I'm cautious about using any of these products at length because long term messing around with your nervous system and thyroid will definitely cause problems....

So I cycle on and off Cuts...and make sure to take some remedies to help detox the liver....

But, one peep said it right..really focus on the diet and training above anythin else....[/QUOTE]
doing cardio on empty stomach isnt a good idea seeing as you will loose muscle
try having some carbs and protein before u run pref 30 min-1hour before

Animal Cuts are the best. It works in 9 ways to burn fat.

ClenB and T3 , the best cutting stack!
Want to go even better? .... he hehe ...there's D dinitrophenol!
Say anyone used D ever on this board, not the steroid board but the ph board?
If you have do post your comments.

Ephedra Free-Thermorexin.

DNP works but I have not seen it around much, I think they really tightened up on it. I have read some disturbing things posted about leydig cells and DNP so maybe thats a good thing.

Pure ephedrine and Caffiene is still a great stack.

I may be the only person on earth who didn't lose any weight whatsoever on lipo-6. I was already on a pretty decent diet, and I was using some stuff I found at GNC called PPN Thermal Fat Loss something and it worked like a champ. Lipo-6 made me insatiably hungry every 2.5 hours. The energy I got was awesome, but I think it was making me metabolise food too quickly and it made me more hungry so I ate more and came out of my calorie deficit.

I just ordered some Dymetadrine Xtreme, hopefully that will help out. If it doesn't, then I'm going to get some San Tight.

Stacker 2, no doubt in my mind. Take with aspirin, hell, take it with 2 aspirins and you feel like you just smoked crack. Heart races like a mofo, works great!

ABO

First off I've never used the new stuff (black label), but the original Diesel Fuel Reloaded worked great. I lost almost 60lbs in 3 months on the stuff. Now it is supposed to be even better. A good diet and exercise cannot be replaced. There is no magic pill. This gave me energy, and helped me lose alot of bodyfat. About a 10% drop on bf in those three months!

What is "tight




[QUOTE=Hervin]Well, do like almost everyone else in the know is doing.

Do the good ol'e POWERFUL EHC stack. Here is mine:

25 mg Ephedrine (Vasopro is the popular choice on here)

200 mg Caffeine

350 mg Green Tea

350 Synephrine

Take this shyt 3 x's a day and it's on!

The **** KICKS ASS. And if you stack [u]just[/u] the EHC with Tight, its really powerful. However, after I finish up this bottle of Tight, im sticking with this pure stack and never going to a commercial fat burner again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jessiebx]What is "tight[/QUOTE]

This is Tight:
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/san/tight.html[/url]

I can't decide which to order, MAN Scorch or Thermorexin... I'm leaning toward T-Rex (what a great nickname) because I read the user trials on the boards so I feel like I have some idea of what I'd be getting into.

LIPOSUCTION!!!!!!! LOL
seriously, clean diet, and water tight work-outs should do it!

[QUOTE=Crazyhouz195]Hydroxycut by Muscletech is the best ephedra free fat burner on the market. I myself lost 75 lbs in 5 months taking it, combined with diet and excercise of course. I went from 250lbs to 175 lbs. This stuff really gives you the energy you need to do extra cardio that you normally would not be able to do.[/QUOTE]

I don't think your lying, hydroxycut does work however there are much better options out there such as thermorexin or ephedrine+sansight. If you would been taken these instead of hydroxycut I"m sure you would have lost more fat and probably retained more muscle.

[QUOTE=Taffin]This is Tight:
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/san/tight.html[/url]

I can't decide which to order, MAN Scorch or Thermorexin... I'm leaning toward T-Rex (what a great nickname) because I read the user trials on the boards so I feel like I have some idea of what I'd be getting into.[/QUOTE]

Thermorexin is the only ephedrine free fatburner which gives you about equal or better results. I've been on it, for 3 weeks now and it's been great. I'm planning to cycle it with sanstigth+ephedrine starting this coming monday.

[QUOTE=Zero000]Im very fat, what should i do. I can't see my dick.[/QUOTE]


Grow a bigger dick.

Okay, in all seriousness, I used to be pretty fat too. never so fat i couldn't see my dick, but hey, still pretty fat.

If you want to, take any fat burner of choice.

Most importantly, get up and do cardio of some kind. that's the best advice i can give. If you do nothing more than walk at a brisk pace every morning for an hour, at least that will be a start.