Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

I dont know if this has been mentioned (theres like 200 posts on this thread) but my personal favorite fat burner has to be Leviathan Reloaded. Check out this ingedient profile:

Serving Size: 2 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 45
Proprietary Blend: 1000 Mgs
Caffeine
Tribulus Ext 80% Saponins, 20% Protodioscin
3,3'-Diindolylmethane
Coleus Forskohili 20% Forskolin
Acacia Rigidula
Hordenine
PEA (Phenylethylamine)
Velvet Bean Extract 20% l-dopa
Phyllanthus Niruri 10%
Ficus Bengalensis Extract 10:1

Yohimbine HCl, 11-Hydroxy-Yohimbine, 9mgs

REDuction is sick! it was the only thing that i could feel working

tried hydroxycut hardcore last year and dropped 20 pounds in 2months.
just started lipo6x. so far great on suppressing appetite.
also pretty interested in REDuction

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;273585541]awesome

we have free sample if you wish to give REDuction a shot ;)[/QUOTE]


I'm in the same boat...animal cuts or REDuction.... PM me as i'd like to try out the latter!

[QUOTE=sicdeusvult;276291051]I'm in the same boat...animal cuts or REDuction.... PM me as i'd like to try out the latter![/QUOTE]

Controlled Labs products are made very well. You could toss the pills and they wouldn't break... solid as a brick.

I have a few logs about REDuction and losing 21lbs in 2 months on it... and a good review somewhere on these forums.

It's a very very very detailed log... from what I ate, how I felt, what I did, etc. REDuction gives a nice steady energy through the day and the PM usually knocks most people out... I take the PM and I can stay up for a while now... I've gotten quite use to REDuction. :)

[QUOTE=Geno;275263501]Free sample? Pm me please.[/QUOTE]
all you need to do is follow the link in my signature, it will take you about 30 seconds to do it :)
[QUOTE=JoeBro;275371171]REDuction is sick! it was the only thing that i could feel working[/QUOTE]
awesome, thanks for spreading the word
[QUOTE=BMA17;275372981]tried hydroxycut hardcore last year and dropped 20 pounds in 2months.
just started lipo6x. so far great on suppressing appetite.
also pretty interested in REDuction[/QUOTE] would be interested to hear your REDuction feedback

[QUOTE=sicdeusvult;276291051]I'm in the same boat...animal cuts or REDuction.... PM me as i'd like to try out the latter![/QUOTE]
check the link in my signature below
[QUOTE=Djin;276294791]Controlled Labs products are made very well. You could toss the pills and they wouldn't break... solid as a brick.

I have a few logs about REDuction and losing 21lbs in 2 months on it... and a good review somewhere on these forums.

It's a very very very detailed log... from what I ate, how I felt, what I did, etc. REDuction gives a nice steady energy through the day and the PM usually knocks most people out... I take the PM and I can stay up for a while now... I've gotten quite use to REDuction. :)[/QUOTE]
always love to read your feedback on REDuction

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;276338311]
would be interested to hear your REDuction feedback
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should be starting it around feb after i get off lipo 6x

any recommendations on stacks for REDuction to optimize fat loss
like a non stim product like vaporize or lean xtreme

anyone tried MAP's Arson before? i just ended my run with CL's REDuction 2 weeks ago and i've had awesome results with 2 boxes back to back. i think im down to below 20% of bodyfats now and im going to give Arson a try this Feb.

[QUOTE=BMA17;276414841]should be starting it around feb after i get off lipo 6x

any recommendations on stacks for REDuction to optimize fat loss
like a non stim product like vaporize or lean xtreme[/QUOTE]

There have been a few stacks I've used while on REDuction.

CLA
7-Keto
(1g) L-Carnitine

And now it looks like Chromium is making a come back with fat loss.

[QUOTE=saha-7;276439941]anyone tried MAP's Arson before? i just ended my run with CL's REDuction 2 weeks ago and i've had awesome results with 2 boxes back to back. i think im down to below 20% of bodyfats now and im going to give Arson a try this Feb.[/QUOTE]

I tried Arson, but at [i]that[/i] time in my life I didn't really know too much about what I was doing, so I probably did more harm while using it then not.

I did find however, the amount of quick energy I got from it made me feel like I just jumped into a bag of "Columbia's finest".

I have my eyes on BioQuest BetaStax... It has CLA, chromium and a few other things I like... so it seems interesting.

Also amazing progression with REDuction.

i just received my scivation dialene 4x from bb.com and took one cap for two consecutive days. guess what, i'm going to contact bb.com for a return. omg, i couldn't believe the massive headache i got within two hours of taking just 1 cap and this happened on two separate occasions. i had to leave the gym yesterday because my head was pounding with every lift. it's a headache coupled with nauseated feeling. dialene 4x is nasty and definitely not for me. it's just too bad, i'm not able to give my honest feedback on the fat/weight loss capability of it.



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[QUOTE=BMA17;276414841]should be starting it around feb after i get off lipo 6x

any recommendations on stacks for REDuction to optimize fat loss
like a non stim product like vaporize or lean xtreme[/QUOTE]
awesome, you can add either, but no need, REDuction is a complete system on its own. you should add essential amino acids before one of those, if you want a free purple wraath sample, hit me up :)
[QUOTE=saha-7;276439941]anyone tried MAP's Arson before? i just ended my run with CL's REDuction 2 weeks ago and i've had awesome results with 2 boxes back to back. i think im down to below 20% of bodyfats now and im going to give Arson a try this Feb.[/QUOTE]

if you had good success on REDuction, stick with it when you cycle back on stims :)

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;276645561]awesome, you can add either, but no need, REDuction is a complete system on its own. you should add essential amino acids before one of those, if you want a free purple wraath sample, hit me up :)


if you had good success on REDuction, stick with it when you cycle back on stims :)[/QUOTE]

you da man


:D

I read some articles about chromium having some carcinogenic impact in hamsters, anyone have any solid information about it?

[QUOTE=saha-7;276439941]anyone tried MAP's Arson before? i just ended my run with CL's REDuction 2 weeks ago and i've had awesome results with 2 boxes back to back. i think im down to below 20% of bodyfats now and im going to give Arson a try this Feb.[/QUOTE]

I have been using a MAP stack of Arson with Altered State since mid November. The energy boost is good, although don't take it too late in the evening as I find it wires me up.
Results: Down 3 inches on my waist, up 1" on my chest, 1/2" on my biceps. Starting to see a 4 pack develop. How much of it is MAP? I'm sure it's helped, but I have also cut back on caloric intake and I do cardio 6 times a week first thing in the morning (35min interval and cross training on an eliptical).

ok, so i took thermogenix2 i think it was called. it dropped weight fast but i felt it was only water weight due to me gaining it all back right after my cycle and i sweat alot while i was on it.

now im really looking into this REDuction product and im wondering about these following questions:

1) is it all water weight
2) will you just sweat out the water weight.

thanks.

[QUOTE=Brandon914;276921261]ok, so i took thermogenix2 i think it was called. it dropped weight fast but i felt it was only water weight due to me gaining it all back right after my cycle and i sweat alot while i was on it.

now im really looking into this REDuction product and im wondering about these following questions:

1) is it all water weight
2) will you just sweat out the water weight.

thanks.[/QUOTE]

1) nope
2) you will lose some water weight from the mild diuretics

Hey do any of you guys have thoughts on these two supplements? I'm looking into taking one of them and just want to know which would be best.

So I think I am going to start cutting mid-april or maybe beginning of may at the latest. I want to be pretty defined by mid June as i will be going on vacation. What kind of results can I expect from REDuction over that sort of time period? FYI I am currently 5'10 175, hoping to be at the same weight by vacation but much more defined. WIll be bulking hard until I cut.

[QUOTE=adamsteve14;278157221]So I think I am going to start cutting mid-april or maybe beginning of may at the latest. I want to be pretty defined by mid June as i will be going on vacation. What kind of results can I expect from REDuction over that sort of time period? FYI I am currently 5'10 175, hoping to be at the same weight by vacation but much more defined. WIll be bulking hard until I cut.[/QUOTE]

Diet is the key. You can take all the REDuction, mixed with a little E/C/A mixed with Arson and still gain weight if your diet is rubbish.

Personally, in two months I lost 21lbs on REDuction, but this was with a Nazi-like diet and work out routine. (Very strict, I'm not a Nazi) ;)

Lypo-6

[QUOTE=adamsteve14;278157221]So I think I am going to start cutting mid-april or maybe beginning of may at the latest. I want to be pretty defined by mid June as i will be going on vacation. What kind of results can I expect from REDuction over that sort of time period? FYI I am currently 5'10 175, hoping to be at the same weight by vacation but much more defined. WIll be bulking hard until I cut.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Djin;278200031]Diet is the key. You can take all the REDuction, mixed with a little E/C/A mixed with Arson and still gain weight if your diet is rubbish.

Personally, in two months I lost 21lbs on REDuction, but this was with a Nazi-like diet and work out routine. (Very strict, I'm not a Nazi) ;)[/QUOTE]

well said. REDuction is amazing, but diet and training have to be on point as well for the real results to work themselves in

Which fat burner should I pickup,

Dialene 4x or Sub-Q?

atro-phex is great stuff, i always come back to it, no jitters, no upset stomach... meltdown isnt that great, lipo-6 is good too. ergopharm vamp2 is also pretty good.

[QUOTE=Djin;278200031]Diet is the key. You can take all the REDuction, mixed with a little E/C/A mixed with Arson and still gain weight if your diet is rubbish.

Personally, in two months I lost 21lbs on REDuction, but this was with a Nazi-like diet and work out routine. (Very strict, I'm not a Nazi) ;)[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the advice. I realize that getting my diet under control and training rigorously is the most important part, its just that in the past year or so I started putting on some fat. (Before then I could eat ANYTHING and not gain a lb.) Therefore I kinda assume that getting the fat off will be relatively easy, just would like a little help.

[QUOTE=adamsteve14;278580321]Thanks for the advice. I realize that getting my diet under control and training rigorously is the most important part, its just that in the past year or so I started putting on some fat. (Before then I could eat ANYTHING and not gain a lb.) Therefore I kinda assume that getting the fat off will be relatively easy, just would like a little help.[/QUOTE]

Of course adding a thermogenic can give you an edge, but as I've stated a bazillion times, it only make 10-15% of the puzzle.

So yeah, it can help you burn a few 100 extra calories and give you some focus and energy, but before you know it your body adapts and you're spinning your wheels.

Stacker 3 TRAIN WRECKED ME. Lost 40 pounds in 3 months. (Have the skin to prove it)

As far as thermogenics are concerned, they cut me up real good. Granted I have a naturally fast metabolism and already eat very healthy. It could have been mostly water weight lost, but while I was using Hydroxycut Hardcore, I could see every vein and every striation. As far as it adapting to your body goes, I think that if you cycle it (3 weeks on 1 week off kind of thing) you'll be ok.

hi I weight 139 lbs, 5'6 and i've reached some type of plateu and dont seem to loose any weight , inches or nothing. I'm training with a personal trainer 3x week and he is harsh, can someone help me and tell me what i can do to loose body fat please. Thank you.

[QUOTE=sunshine0808;279484591]hi I weight 139 lbs, 5'6 and i've reached some type of plateu and dont seem to loose any weight , inches or nothing. I'm training with a personal trainer 3x week and he is harsh, can someone help me and tell me what i can do to loose body fat please. Thank you.[/QUOTE]

Why is your personal trainer harsh? I wouldn't pay for someone to abuse me. I get enough of that **** through life and family. :)

You need to take a look at your diet and see how solid this is.

[QUOTE=sunshine0808;279484591]hi I weight 139 lbs, 5'6 and i've reached some type of plateu and dont seem to loose any weight , inches or nothing. I'm training with a personal trainer 3x week and he is harsh, can someone help me and tell me what i can do to loose body fat please. Thank you.[/QUOTE]

I'm assuming you're a woman and not a man?? If so, just read this thread and pick one of the recommended fat burners, whichever looks the best to you

I took Mitotropin for the last month with high hopes of seeing the "amazing results" that I'd heard should happen. It wasn't a great experience: I became less motivated in all areas of my life, alot more hungry and my stomach never felt full until I binged (I actually GAINED 10 lbs), and i felt a little bit sick after my morning doses. I stayed on it for a little more than 3 weeks, and by then i had to quit because i was going backwards. However, one thing i noticed was that even though i was gaining weight, my muscles were looking fuller and it didnt look like fat gain. That might have just been as a result of stacking it with novedex xt though. The pre contest program it comes with is awesome, and I'm still utilizing a lot of the diet tips and workout strategies from it.

After my experience with Mitotropin, I would suggest if you are wanting to lose weight and get ripped, you should stick with good ol' ECA or other stuff that has worked for you in the past. I love gaspari products, but this one didnt do it for me.

Ive been taking Hydroxycut for 3 months now and was looking to get Controlled Labs REDuction when i run out of this bottle. It caught my eye because it is an AM/PM pill and i have trouble getting good sleep, thought it might help and help my metabolism in sleep.

Ive been taking Hydroxycut for 3 months and ive dropped 25 pounds. But im looking for a burner when im finished with my current bottle. I was thinking of controlled labs REDuction because it is AM/PM. I have trouble getting good sleep(which i know is important for weight loss) and though it may be able to help me with my sleep and my metabolism while sleeping. What is everybodys thoughts on REDuction?

Question for the Controlled Labs rep.
I tried the REDuction sample (and have also bought a full box), and I found that I had a massive afternoon energy crash, Im assuming due to the large amounts of caffine from the 2 pills. Is there any way to avoid this?

sorry..didnt mean to post twice

I took REDuction a few months back. I lost maybe 5 pounds within the month. I feel like I coulda done better if I kept more strict on my diet. One thing that I noticed about REDuction is that I really didn't have any afternoon crashes. Also, no jittery wired feeling. It kept me pretty stable all day long, which I was surprised by since it's only an AM dosage. I was used to Lipo6 where you take multiple doses. I guess to me it didn't really feel like it did much at the time(because of the lack of wiredness which I usually feel from burners) but i retrospect, I'd probably buy another bottle when I start cutting again next month. The PM pills were a nice little perk. They really help you wind down.

so im going to be trying the REDuction sample.

so am i going to be dependent on the PM pills?

[QUOTE=Brandon914;279858321]so im going to be trying the REDuction sample.

so am i going to be dependent on the PM pills?[/QUOTE]

No. I found that when I take the PM pills, my dreams are wild! And I've also noticed I'll wake up super dehydrated.

[QUOTE=puudge;279758061]Ive been taking Hydroxycut for 3 months now and was looking to get Controlled Labs REDuction when i run out of this bottle. It caught my eye because it is an AM/PM pill and i have trouble getting good sleep, thought it might help and help my metabolism in sleep.[/QUOTE]
absolutely, think you will love them for sure :)
[QUOTE=SpongeTom;279760321]Question for the Controlled Labs rep.
I tried the REDuction sample (and have also bought a full box), and I found that I had a massive afternoon energy crash, Im assuming due to the large amounts of caffine from the 2 pills. Is there any way to avoid this?[/QUOTE]
that is odd, but you can try taking 1 am pill eaarly and the second one three hours later
[QUOTE=calisean79;279838041]I took REDuction a few months back. I lost maybe 5 pounds within the month. I feel like I coulda done better if I kept more strict on my diet. One thing that I noticed about REDuction is that I really didn't have any afternoon crashes. Also, no jittery wired feeling. It kept me pretty stable all day long, which I was surprised by since it's only an AM dosage. I was used to Lipo6 where you take multiple doses. I guess to me it didn't really feel like it did much at the time(because of the lack of wiredness which I usually feel from burners) but i retrospect, I'd probably buy another bottle when I start cutting again next month. The PM pills were a nice little perk. They really help you wind down.[/QUOTE]
awesome to hear :)
[QUOTE=Brandon914;279858321]so im going to be trying the REDuction sample.

so am i going to be dependent on the PM pills?[/QUOTE]

no dependence on the PM pills at all to note

My vote goes for Scorch. Very good energy and appetite suppression and noticeable weight loss.

After REDuction not doing anything for me I decided to take a look at vpx Meltdown. Took it for the first time this morning and I don't know what is happening. I took the max recommended dose a day of 3 pills when I got up, then I ate, and then went to gym. About 30 minutes after taking them I got a little jittery and then I could feel my body temp rising and I started sweating and my heart was racing. I was able to breeze through my workout and even got a few more reps on some things. However, mid-way through my workout I started to get dizzy but kept on. During my workout I was sweating like a waterfall.

I've been sweating balls ever since and my heart/body temp has only just started to calm down. I don't know if this means this is a great product or I should be afraid to take another dose. I'm leaning more towards the latter. :(

I have tried both Lipo-6 and hydroxycut and found that lipo-6 is the better fat burner. Hydroxycut is not better in anyway it advertises more than lipo-6. A horrrible side affect that hydroxicut gave me was kidney stones and those are not fun to pass. Also ripped fuel is not a bad fat burner to try out.

Using CL REDuction in my log and the PM really help me sleep better and I've already lost 5-6 lbs it seems in a little less than two weeks. Its very time efficient too (not this like you must 4-6 hours later and check your watch to make sure you get it. So if you have a job and can't pop pills at work its great)

[QUOTE=teenwolf41;281376891]Using CL REDuction in my log and the PM really help me sleep better and I've already lost 5-6 lbs it seems in a little less than two weeks. Its very time efficient too (not this like you must 4-6 hours later and check your watch to make sure you get it. So if you have a job and can't pop pills at work its great)[/QUOTE]

awesome, thanks for posting up the feedback. the PM is now available separate as well as bundled with the AM :)

After lurking around a bit on here I decided to make an account. I got a question about using two supplements. I'm looking to cut/lose fat. I'm 6'0 200 lbs. and I want to get down to 180-185, and getting my BMI down around 18%. My BMI is around 26% now which is in the overweight category.

I'm looking into trying REDuction and Purple Wraath along with exercise (HIIT and some lifting) and a good diet to cut/lose fat. Would taking these together be harmful or too much in any way. I'm looking to start in the next week or so and would appreciate any feedback. Post here or PM me with any suggestions or advice.

Thanks and glad to be a part of BB!!!

[QUOTE=BeeBallin;282015201]After lurking around a bit on here I decided to make an account. I got a question about using two supplements. I'm looking to cut/lose fat. I'm 6'0 200 lbs. and I want to get down to 180-185, and getting my BMI down around 18%. My BMI is around 26% now which is in the overweight category.

I'm looking into trying REDuction and Purple Wraath along with exercise (HIIT and some lifting) and a good diet to cut/lose fat. Would taking these together be harmful or too much in any way. I'm looking to start in the next week or so and would appreciate any feedback. Post here or PM me with any suggestions or advice.

Thanks and glad to be a part of BB!!![/QUOTE]

Nope. I've taken REDuction, Purple Wraath, White Flood and a bunch other stuff together. I'm still here. ;)

You might feel your skin buzzing from the beta alanine. And your veins will turn into staws.

One of my friends claims that Clenbuterol is far better than ephedrine, true or false?

Thanks for the reply. I actually would like to get my BMI down a little lower, maybe down to like 15%. Any others want to chime in on using REDuction and Purple Wraath together to achieve maximum fat/weight loss, while at the same time adding a little muscle mass.

[QUOTE=SebastianG;282126501]One of my friends claims that Clenbuterol is far better than ephedrine, true or false?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, if you want to die.

Perhaps you should READ up on that **** before you even THINK about taking it... that **** can kill you.