Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

[QUOTE=Djin;182338211]I never said you were lazy...?

I thought you said cutting then bulking, perhaps I read something wrong. Next time try ON Pro Complex... that's a bad ass protein. 60g of protein, 14g of BCAA and tons of other goodness.

Also it's not bad to have one "good" meal. I still eat things I want and I lose weight like it's nothing. I have my body so in check right now with burning calories, having something "good" won't throw it too off balance.[/QUOTE]

Oh, I know. i'm just stating i'm a lazy ****, that's why 2600 cals will be fine IMO.

My question is which thermo to use, I want to use Animal Cuts, and what else for the 8-week duration. Plus, is L-Carnitine capable to be stacked with thermos, and does it actually work?

[QUOTE=thedrivenone;182345681]Oh, I know. i'm just stating i'm a lazy ****, that's why 2600 cals will be fine IMO.

My question is which thermo to use, I want to use Animal Cuts, and what else for the 8-week duration. Plus, is L-Carnitine capable to be stacked with thermos, and does it actually work?[/QUOTE]

I've used L-carntine like it's crack. A major staple in most of my stacks. ANd it does work. I would suggest getting the liquid.

cool it seems useful.

is it safe to stack nano vapor with Lipo 6x. I just started a cycle of lipo 6x and have a basically full bottle of nano vapor i was too scared to try during taking lipo 6 previously. But now that i feel like i am used to the stims i was wondering if it would be safe to have both throughout the day. I would prolly take the second serving of Lipo6x at like 2pm every day then take then nano at like 6pm u think this would be safe?

[QUOTE=acortazz;182405881]is it safe to stack nano vapor with Lipo 6x. I just started a cycle of lipo 6x and have a basically full bottle of nano vapor i was too scared to try during taking lipo 6 previously. But now that i feel like i am used to the stims i was wondering if it would be safe to have both throughout the day. I would prolly take the second serving of Lipo6x at like 2pm every day then take then nano at like 6pm u think this would be safe?[/QUOTE]

I'm still here.

I have stacked Lipo6 with MANY things. I still stand!!! RAWR! I wouldn't take anything past 2:00pm... if you take it too late, you're going to never fall asleep.

When I was stacking Tetrazene Extreme with Lipo6X and when I stacked MAN Scorch with Lipo6X, I would take both dose in the morning and then would take the 2nd dose around noon or 2:00pm.

If it's too much, then cut back. If not, then go full speed.

yea but i get out of work at 6 so i cant take the vapor before then but ive taken it before that late and have been fine so im not worried abotu staying up im just worried if its unhealthy to have that much stim pumped into u throughout the day. On the nano vapor label it says do not stack with other yohibine products and i know lipo 6x has that in it soo i dont know if its such a good idea.

Hey i was just wondering if anyone has ever tried metabolic thyrolean?
What was your thoughts on it and was it anygood?
Thanks ND

[QUOTE=Djin;182414871]I'm still here.

I have stacked Lipo6 with MANY things. I still stand!!! RAWR! I wouldn't take anything past 2:00pm... if you take it too late, you're going to never fall asleep.

When I was stacking Tetrazene Extreme with Lipo6X and when I stacked MAN Scorch with Lipo6X, I would take both dose in the morning and then would take the 2nd dose around noon or 2:00pm.

If it's too much, then cut back. If not, then go full speed.[/QUOTE]

Lipo contains guggelsterones... No good.

[QUOTE=Warneckutz;179397351] I was stacking both the Lipo-6x and MAN Scorch as well - I think it's a good combo too.[/QUOTE]

Where you taking 2 Lipo-6x and 2 Man Scorch twice a day? I just purchased both and wanted to know how many and when to take them? Not sure if it matters, but I am 6'4 225. Thanks!

[QUOTE=valmont33;182462281]Where you taking 2 Lipo-6x and 2 Man Scorch twice a day? I just purchased both and wanted to know how many and when to take them? Not sure if it matters, but I am 6'4 225. Thanks![/QUOTE]

I was taking a full serving of Lipo-6X first thing in the morning (5am),
a full serving of Scorch at 10am,
and a full serving of Lipo-6X prior to training (3pm).

[QUOTE=DGreekStallion;182430881]Lipo contains guggelsterones... No good.[/QUOTE]

Says who and why? Sources...

[QUOTE=DGreekStallion;182430881]Lipo contains guggelsterones... No good.[/QUOTE]


I guess that's why they also added Yohimbe, just in case you get a low sex drive from Guggelsterones.

so im down to 188 and losing some fat. im thinking about taking another cycle(says 8 weeks for best results) with dianabol. will they cancel each other out any thoughts?

For someone like me who is very over weight, what should i take to help me loose weight

[QUOTE=Pumpkin431;183720351]For someone like me who is very over weight, what should i take to help me loose weight[/QUOTE]
please read from thread 100

i'm 5' 11" 198lbs turning 19 this year, i eat a pretty good diet but not the best. I eat a lot of oatmeal, baked or grilled chicken, tuna, and eggs like in omlette form, and whatever my mom makes for dinner. I have a pretty muscular build for my weight, i think i am 24-26 body fat. I jog 2-3 miles 4 times a week for the past 5 weeks and only lost about 3 lbs. Would something like Universal Super Cuts 3 be good for me?

Lean up by ids is pretty good. My freind used it for a month and lost twenty pounds.....stayed off him too...so picked up a box and used it for 15 days..lost about twelve pounds...i didnt even know i had that much fat to lose..but when i was done i was ripped to the bone

Man this is a big thread. Can anyone tell me which product was the winner? Going to be doing some cutting soon and i would like a little help.

[QUOTE=MrSn95;184198851]Man this is a big thread. Can anyone tell me which product was the winner? Going to be doing some cutting soon and i would like a little help.[/QUOTE]

There is no clear cut winner.

[QUOTE=MrSn95;184198851]Man this is a big thread. Can anyone tell me which product was the winner? Going to be doing some cutting soon and i would like a little help.[/QUOTE]

one of the few that offers free samples in REDuction, so that must say something. you can get the free sample through the bodybuilding.com store or directly from us by following the link in my signature below :)

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;184597501]one of the few that offers free samples in REDuction, so that must say something. you can get the free sample through the bodybuilding.com store or directly from us by following the link in my signature below :)[/QUOTE]

And if you want to see how well it works, there's my log and a few others doing REDuction. It's a damn good product. Pretty sure the only one with a 24 hour formula. (There's an AM and PM you take)

I'm thinking of taking lipo6x soon and wanted to know if its okay to keep taking my other supplements. Right now I'm taking creatine, nitric oxide and protein. So is it okay to take lipo6 with my supplements?

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;184597501]one of the few that offers free samples in REDuction, so that must say something. you can get the free sample through the bodybuilding.com store or directly from us by following the link in my signature below :)[/QUOTE]

I tried a bottle of red acid before, I have to say i wasnt impressed. It made me feel strange, and i really didnt notice a reduction in appetite that the ads claimed. Which was the main reason i bought it. Dont really wana be suckered into buying something that does not work again.

[QUOTE=DGreekStallion;184218541]There is no clear cut winner.[/QUOTE]

Maybe there is a top 5, or possibly top 10?

[QUOTE=MrSn95;184872751]I tried a bottle of red acid before, I have to say i wasnt impressed. It made me feel strange, and i really didnt notice a reduction in appetite that the ads claimed. Which was the main reason i bought it. Dont really wana be suckered into buying something that does not work again.[/QUOTE]

I've been on REDuction for 18 days and lost 5lbs.

[QUOTE=MrSn95;184874021]Maybe there is a top 5, or possibly top 10?[/QUOTE]

Since there are so many variables between everyone such as body type, experience, no.

Just check what sells the most.

[QUOTE=DGreekStallion;184886581]Since there are so many variables between everyone such as body type, experience, no.

Just check what sells the most.[/QUOTE]


The top selling one is lipo 6...I was about to buy it until I read all the posts about Guggulsterones and what affects it may cause.

I might go with cytolean.

[QUOTE=anthony_b;185013861]The top selling one is lipo 6...I was about to buy it until I read all the posts about Guggulsterones and what affects it may cause.

I might go with cytolean.[/QUOTE]

Which are?

Meltdown is a joke. Tried it, nothing happened.

REDuction is where it's at! I lost 5lbs in 19 days! I couldn't get under 200lbs to save my life... 198lbs! Can't beat that with a wooden stick!

But enlighten me, what's so bad about guggule?

[QUOTE=MrSn95;184872751]I tried a bottle of red acid before, I have to say i wasnt impressed. It made me feel strange, and i really didnt notice a reduction in appetite that the ads claimed. Which was the main reason i bought it. Dont really wana be suckered into buying something that does not work again.[/QUOTE]
sorry to hear that, but this is a very different formula and has gotten great reviews. we also offer free samples of REDuction if you click on the link in my signature below, so you can try it risk free :)

[QUOTE=Djin;184603771]And if you want to see how well it works, there's my log and a few others doing REDuction. It's a damn good product. Pretty sure the only one with a 24 hour formula. (There's an AM and PM you take)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Djin;184877401]I've been on REDuction for 18 days and lost 5lbs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Djin;185031011]Which are?

Meltdown is a joke. Tried it, nothing happened.

REDuction is where it's at! I lost 5lbs in 19 days! I couldn't get under 200lbs to save my life... 198lbs! Can't beat that with a wooden stick!

But enlighten me, what's so bad about guggule?[/QUOTE]
awesome, those results are very impressive :)

I have about 30-40 pounds of fat to lose and I was recommended Universal animal cuts over DREN, ARSON and HYROXYCUR HARDCORE. Does anyone here think that Animal Cuts is the best product? Why do they recommend 3 weeks on one week off I haven't seen that on any other fatburners? Thanks people!