Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

[QUOTE=JEculture;190074371]Lipo6x is WORTHLESS. I've taken dozens and dozens of supplements, this has to be the absolute worst supplement I have come across, do NOT waste your money on this.

I havent tried REDuction. I might give it a shot.[/QUOTE]

im taking lipo 6x right now ans it seems to be workign great for my wife and i. Ive lost 5 pounds within 2 weeks and i have noticed changes in size for both my wife and i. Her especially. So i cant say the same thing but i know it works great for us. You just have to diet and excersize regularly.

I had good results w/ Scorch the last time around (dropped around 10lbs combined with a good diet and exersize program). Didn't notice any good results while on Lipo 6, which surprised me because of all the good reviews (diet and exercize with maybe a pound or two). I might try it again in the future.

Based on what I am reading and the nice log by Djin, I'm getting ready to order REDuction and give it a shot. I might keep a log here as well (never done a log on here before, but might give it a shot as it seems to help others understand more).

Thanks for all of the comments and advice... great thread.

i also liked Xenadrine Super Hardcore. Was one of the first fat burners i took but it made me very Jittery so i stopped. I might try it again in the future tho. I dont think i was eating much when i did it but i know that i was looking alot of body fat and FAST!

[QUOTE=Tree_Hugger;190469981]
Based on what I am reading and the nice log by Djin, I'm getting ready to order REDuction and give it a shot. I might keep a log here as well (never done a log on here before, but might give it a shot as it seems to help others understand more).

Thanks for all of the comments and advice... great thread.[/QUOTE]

thanks for giving REDuction a shot, you wont be disappointed. we (and the bb.com store) also have free samples for those who are on the edge but are not sure if they want to buy yet :)

I have tried 2 samples of REDuction and I think it's very solid. I definitely give it props for having a night time formula as sleep is something that comes hard for me...

But, I have to give the nod to Fusion's Sub-Q...in my experience so far, nothing touches it in terms of effectiveness...

But you've only tried two samples. Just imagine a whole months worth.

Anyone have good experiences with S.A.N. "Tight"?
I was in a shop the other day and they said it was the best of all of them..
Hmmm??

has anybody else tried REDuction? It looks like the controlled labs rep wont shut up about it anytime someone mentions the name...
Im trying to decide on that or Lipo-6x

FameGirl has. She made an amazing log...

[QUOTE=redraider1856;190659671]has anybody else tried REDuction? It looks like the controlled labs rep wont shut up about it anytime someone mentions the name...
Im trying to decide on that or Lipo-6x[/QUOTE]

I've done two bottles (back-to-back) of Lipo-6X. I'm not entirely sold on the product. I think it helped "slightly", but my diet was a pre-contest type of diet so that helped take care of most of the work. My next purchased will be the REDuction (back-to-back) due to it's AM & PM capabilities in conjunction with a pre-contest diet.

[QUOTE=MBSowards;190497881] I definitely give it props for having a night time formula as sleep is something that comes hard for me...

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Do you find that it makes you groggy if you don't get a certain amount of sleep?

..just wondering because I get about 6 straight hours at night and then about an hour or so later on in the day.

How do you think it might affect my sleep schedule?

Alright I'm getting into the REDuction hype. I'm gonna have to give it a shot and see what comes of it after I'm done with hydroxycut hardcore.

i finished my reduction and i lost around 12 pounds in 30 days. very good product

[QUOTE=baznguy;190766021]i finished my reduction and i lost around 12 pounds in 30 days. very good product[/QUOTE]

That's some good results!

[QUOTE=Djin;190662931]FameGirl has. She made an amazing log...[/QUOTE]
her REDuction log is great as well :) (havent seen a bad one yet)
[QUOTE=Warneckutz;190678991]My next purchased will be the REDuction (back-to-back) due to it's AM & PM capabilities in conjunction with a pre-contest diet.[/QUOTE]
I am really looking forward to your log as well. :)
[QUOTE=markrussell;190707121]Alright I'm getting into the REDuction hype. I'm gonna have to give it a shot and see what comes of it after I'm done with hydroxycut hardcore.[/QUOTE]
you wont be disappointed, people's results have been awesome.
[QUOTE=baznguy;190766021]i finished my reduction and i lost around 12 pounds in 30 days. very good product[/QUOTE]

WOW, that is all I have to say about that :D

anybody try hydroxycut harcore? any good?

[QUOTE=briankoke;191554121]anybody try hydroxycut harcore? any good?[/QUOTE]

a lot of people seem to think it is over-hyped/priced... scan the thread for more. i remember one or two saying something good, but mostly not as effective as others that cost less.

What about Hoodia? I have not seen it mentioned to much lately. Now i know there is a lot of garbage hoodia products out there, but i am talking about the real deal. Anyone tried any of the real stuff?

[QUOTE=MrSn95;191707811]What about Hoodia? I have not seen it mentioned to much lately. Now i know there is a lot of garbage hoodia products out there, but i am talking about the real deal. Anyone tried any of the real stuff?[/QUOTE]

This months Men's Health magazine had recommended Hoodia from the Vitamin Shoppe. I guess it would be beneficial to stack it with something else.

If you can get your hands on some 'Caralluma Fibriata', that's suppose to be much better then hoodia.

Another type of cacti I believe.

I have a question How is Hydroxycut. like does it make you have a caffine boost to loose the weight sorta like energy drinks do? or what

like overall does it work good or what?

Personally Hydroxycut was the first burner I used and got to say I saw some interesting results, thought I had to piss every 10 minutes :D

What other fatie burner would you suggest lately? Dont want to go lipo because of gougies :)

[QUOTE=d0ne;191924621]Personally Hydroxycut was the first burner I used and got to say I saw some interesting results, thought I had to piss every 10 minutes :D

What other fatie burner would you suggest lately? Dont want to go lipo because of gougies :)[/QUOTE]

What are "gougies?"

[QUOTE=georgehimself;191932721]What are "gougies?"[/QUOTE]

I think he just can't spell "Guggulsterones".

A lot of people think it's a horrible thing, just like Yohimbe... but there's zero proof that it raises your estrogen. It actually speeds your thyroid up. If people learn how to read, they might actually figure this stuff out.

[QUOTE=georgehimself;191932721]What are "gougies?"[/QUOTE]

Aren't they turds that won't come out?

[QUOTE=georgehimself;191932721]What are "gougies?"[/QUOTE]

just like a perogie, but less chewy :D

Okay, I am finishing up my second month on hot rox... with mixed results.

I did not see much change in my body fat % but my diet was not as clean as it had been in the past, also the 4th of July ruined me with alcohol.

I have noticed two things with it, I am having a lot of trouble getting a solid 6 to 8 hours of sleep, I wake up two to three times a night, and I have to force myself to eat in the morning. I have no appetite after the first dose kicks in... I do not have the same problem in the evening because I tend to do cardio and some type of training everyday.

You guys on Reduction (or the Rep)... What are the time frames for that PM dosage, is it right before bed? If not, does it get you groggy? Thanks!!!

[QUOTE=skalnik;192240711]Okay, I am finishing up my second month on hot rox... with mixed results.

I did not see much change in my body fat % but my diet was not as clean as it had been in the past, also the 4th of July ruined me with alcohol.

I have noticed two things with it, I am having a lot of trouble getting a solid 6 to 8 hours of sleep, I wake up two to three times a night, and I have to force myself to eat in the morning. I have no appetite after the first dose kicks in... I do not have the same problem in the evening because I tend to do cardio and some type of training everyday.

You guys on Reduction (or the Rep)... What are the time frames for that PM dosage, is it right before bed? If not, does it get you groggy? Thanks!!![/QUOTE]

30 minutes before you go to sleep.

If you take it and don't go to sleep, it will make you groggy. It has valerian root and a bunch of other happy stuff in it. Once I take it and I go to sleep, the only thing that wakes me is me having to pee. If not, then I sleep very well!

[QUOTE=Djin;192243881]30 minutes before you go to sleep.

If you take it and don't go to sleep, it will make you groggy. It has valerian root and a bunch of other happy stuff in it. Once I take it and I go to sleep, the only thing that wakes me is me having to pee. If not, then I sleep very well![/QUOTE]

Cool, thanks... two more questions and I am done?

Can I take it with my nightime protein shake?

And

Can I stack this with CLA (I love what it does for keeping my gains with all my cardio)...

[QUOTE=skalnik;192246911]Cool, thanks... two more questions and I am done?

Can I take it with my nightime protein shake?

And

Can I stack this with CLA (I love what it does for keeping my gains with all my cardio)...[/QUOTE]

Yes and (I would say) yes.

Do you take a casein shake before bed?