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[QUOTE=Kurt Hustle;454503091]Thats what I'm concerned with ....I was going to take my Animal Cuts along WITH the White Flood before going to the gym as I do my lifting then immead. followed by cardio. So taking the White Flood along with my first pack of Cuts probably wouldn't be a good idea?[/QUOTE]
Just dont take the red pill in the animal cuts if its at the same time.
I do this. 6 am AC, 11 am AC, 4 pm WF (when I am on WF, not right now).
[QUOTE=Kurt Hustle;454306691]Hey all I've also asked this question in the "Overall NO Product" topic...but I was wondering if it would be ok to take White Flood along with Animal Cuts?...or is there too much stimulant between both supplements? Would like the Flood to help with my lifting while the Cuts benefits my cardio. Or is this just out of the question....I do my cardio right after lifting...so my plan was to down the Cuts with my flood shake. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
Have you tried Dark Rage by MHP? It has NO and stims in it, and the stims are powerful.
[QUOTE=bly3;454590681]Just dont take the red pill in the animal cuts if its at the same time.
I do this. 6 am AC, 11 am AC, 4 pm WF (when I am on WF, not right now).[/QUOTE]
When we formulated Animal Cuts we took into account that most lifters take a pre-workout supplement with stims in it, so it made sense to have the stims optional. We did this with Pump and M-Stak also. It's a great option and no other products offer it.
I-Force's TT-33. I actually had to cut it short because I lost too much weight. I just could not consume the calories needed to maintain my weight!! PLUS I make good $$ selling it in my shop!!! Nice to "rep" products you truly use!!!
JJ
[QUOTE=naturalguy;454621461]When we formulated Animal Cuts we took into account that most lifters take a pre-workout supplement with stims in it, so it made sense to have the stims optional. We did this with Pump and M-Stak also. It's a great option and no other products offer it.[/QUOTE]
So just take the red pill out of the cuts and I should be fine taking them both at the same time? Thanks for all the help guys.
[QUOTE=Kurt Hustle;454849331]So just take the red pill out of the cuts and I should be fine taking them both at the same time? Thanks for all the help guys.[/QUOTE]
Yes sir
[QUOTE=bly3;454590681]Just dont take the red pill in the animal cuts if its at the same time.
I do this. 6 am AC, 11 am AC, 4 pm WF (when I am on WF, not right now).[/QUOTE]
awesome, how are you liking the white flood?
I just started taking Animal Cuts and I've got a question about water intake. I'm downing a gallon a day. I was wondering if drinking that much water would retard the effects of the diuretics in A-cuts?
[QUOTE=Colossal Spoons;455157941]I just started taking Animal Cuts and I've got a question about water intake. I'm downing a gallon a day. I was wondering if drinking that much water would retard the effects of the diuretics in A-cuts?[/QUOTE]
Sort of off topic on your question (sorry, I don't know the answer... I know others will though)... but what have been your thoughts/experience of it so far? Thinking about trying it. Thanks
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I've been on it for about 5 days and lost a solid pound, wasn't looking for anything radical. I will say this though, it doesn't put me in a crabby mood like the EC stack did. I'm sure I'll have more to report after I'm on it for a while longer.
I'm taking:
Animal Pak & Cuts
NO Xplode
Prolab Creatine
REDuction PM
Would it be smart to take a half dose of creatine along with the REDuction PM before I go to sleep?
I have to say iSatori MX-LS7 was the most effective burner for me. I was 215 now 172lbs from clean diet and 3-4 days Circuit lifting/2 days cardio and help from supps like these
I've tried these since ephedra ban:
Atrophex (over priced, hyped, just meh, pee'd alot)
Lipo 6 black (just didn't do it for me)
Lean System 7 (good)
MX-LS7 (fav)
Hydroxycut Hardcore (got Cancer in my femur a month later, yes seriously and I'm still wondering if there is a link since they reformulated it in the past year. Also made me feel like chit)
Ripped Fuel Extreme (ok)
I think its high EGCG, Caff., Coleus Forskoli (Forlean) and Gugg. in MX-LS7 that does it.
Need to try OxyElite or Cuts next but that chit's expensive, rather spend $$ on Protein and Torrent and maybe a case of Endorush or Xenergy.
I'm currently on a strict low carb low fat diet, eating only low fat meats (lean turkey, turkey bacon, chicken breasts, baked fish, shrimp, egg whites, chicken sausage, etc) and I've lost 21 lbs in 3 weeks on said diet, but now I seem to have hit a wall, so to say. I weight train 4 times a week as well. Looking to throw a fat burner into the mix. Is Animal cuts the way to go now a days? Was looking at the BB.com store and it's rankings, saw animal cuts as the best ranked fat burner. Years back when I was at my leanest, I took Hydroxycut, and while it seemed to help keep me cut, it also made me jittery and a lot of times I felt like chit when on it. I have to assume that now a days there's a better fat burner out there.
What else besides Animal cuts should I look into, or should I not even look in another direction?
Its been 2 1/2 months on my journey...First two weeks was all mental preparation, as opposed to just eating 2 big meals a day I am now eating smaller portions and 5x a day keeping my calorie count below 2,000..... 2 months into it went from 266 to 228 with no supplements whatsoever, to me that is an accomplishment in itself
Now im on here looking for some advice on what supplements to boost my fat burning and definition... I am 5'10 and 228 lbs looking to go down to at least 195.....I am leaning towards the Animal Pak and have done some research
My question is:
Is the Animal Pak a good starter and if so what can I take along with it or should that be enough?
please I need some advice and guidance
I was also looking into the P90x workout routine any info
Hey
Just wanted to let you know I am using oxyelite pro and in my experience it doesn't work. I am almost through a full bottle, it gives minor energy boost and no fat loss that I can notice. My diet is ok and I expected to lose a few pounds based on the rave reviews. I think most positive reviews are either having placebo effects or are being paid by USP Labs. I have taken many different fatburners and never had so little results. If I were you I would take the cuts. The first formulation was good so this should be great!
[QUOTE=eyenstein;457329041]I have to say iSatori MX-LS7 was the most effective burner for me. I was 215 now 172lbs from clean diet and 3-4 days Circuit lifting/2 days cardio and help from supps like these
I've tried these since ephedra ban:
Atrophex (over priced, hyped, just meh, pee'd alot)
Lipo 6 black (just didn't do it for me)
Lean System 7 (good)
MX-LS7 (fav)
Hydroxycut Hardcore (got Cancer in my femur a month later, yes seriously and I'm still wondering if there is a link since they reformulated it in the past year. Also made me feel like chit)
Ripped Fuel Extreme (ok)
I think its high EGCG, Caff., Coleus Forskoli (Forlean) and Gugg. in MX-LS7 that does it.
Need to try OxyElite or Cuts next but that chit's expensive, rather spend $$ on Protein and Torrent and maybe a case of Endorush or Xenergy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Defenbach;457210901]I'm taking:
Animal Pak & Cuts
NO Xplode
Prolab Creatine
REDuction PM
Would it be smart to take a half dose of creatine along with the REDuction PM before I go to sleep?[/QUOTE]
for sure, that is fine. let us know how you like REDuction PM
[QUOTE=Colossal Spoons;455157941]I just started taking Animal Cuts and I've got a question about water intake. I'm downing a gallon a day. I was wondering if drinking that much water would retard the effects of the diuretics in A-cuts?[/QUOTE]
That is a good amount of water, you should drink at least a gallon a day and it does not affect the diuretics in Cuts in fact the more water you take in the less you hold subq.
[QUOTE=Colossal Spoons;457188301]I've been on it for about 5 days and lost a solid pound, wasn't looking for anything radical. I will say this though, it doesn't put me in a crabby mood like the EC stack did. I'm sure I'll have more to report after I'm on it for a while longer.[/QUOTE]
That is pretty good so far, keep us updated
[QUOTE=slappzilla;457394751]I'm currently on a strict low carb low fat diet, eating only low fat meats (lean turkey, turkey bacon, chicken breasts, baked fish, shrimp, egg whites, chicken sausage, etc) and I've lost 21 lbs in 3 weeks on said diet, but now I seem to have hit a wall, so to say. I weight train 4 times a week as well. Looking to throw a fat burner into the mix. Is Animal cuts the way to go now a days? Was looking at the BB.com store and it's rankings, saw animal cuts as the best ranked fat burner. Years back when I was at my leanest, I took Hydroxycut, and while it seemed to help keep me cut, it also made me jittery and a lot of times I felt like chit when on it. I have to assume that now a days there's a better fat burner out there.
What else besides Animal cuts should I look into, or should I not even look in another direction?[/QUOTE]
What is great about Animal Cuts is not only is it an extremely efficient fat burner, it doesn't make you feel like crap.
[QUOTE=Manny_TEC;457459901]Its been 2 1/2 months on my journey...First two weeks was all mental preparation, as opposed to just eating 2 big meals a day I am now eating smaller portions and 5x a day keeping my calorie count below 2,000..... 2 months into it went from 266 to 228 with no supplements whatsoever, to me that is an accomplishment in itself
Now im on here looking for some advice on what supplements to boost my fat burning and definition... I am 5'10 and 228 lbs looking to go down to at least 195.....I am leaning towards the Animal Pak and have done some research
My question is:
Is the Animal Pak a good starter and if so what can I take along with it or should that be enough?
please I need some advice and guidance
I was also looking into the P90x workout routine any info[/QUOTE]
That is a very low amount of calories.
Animal Pak is a great foundational product and would certainly support your efforts.
Dude I went from 215 and in a wheelchair with cancer in my femur to 172 and the best shape of my life after chemo and radiation with healthy eating, Jack3d/White Flood, iSatori MX-LS7, CLA, Syntha6, Universal Torrent(Recovery) and the secret, P90X(2 1/2 weeks left of the 90 days). Watching Tony gave me direction during my workouts and a solid plan. Do it, you won't be disappointed. Some guys on here knock it but I have yet to here anyone unsatisfied after 90 days.
[QUOTE=Manny_TEC;457459901]Its been 2 1/2 months on my journey...First two weeks was all mental preparation, as opposed to just eating 2 big meals a day I am now eating smaller portions and 5x a day keeping my calorie count below 2,000..... 2 months into it went from 266 to 228 with no supplements whatsoever, to me that is an accomplishment in itself
Now im on here looking for some advice on what supplements to boost my fat burning and definition... I am 5'10 and 228 lbs looking to go down to at least 195.....I am leaning towards the Animal Pak and have done some research
My question is:
Is the Animal Pak a good starter and if so what can I take along with it or should that be enough?
please I need some advice and guidance
I was also looking into the P90x workout routine any info[/QUOTE]
The only fat-burner supplement I've ever used is Animal Cuts. It was the first Pak product from the Animal line I ever used, and it was money well invested.
From March 1 to April 1, 2008, Animal Cuts helped me lose 10 pounds of fat. I did heavy weights and plenty of cardio, and ate healthily - and lost no strength and noticed no loss of lean body mass. I went from 190 to 179.
2 years later, I am now hovering at 200lbs, with more mass but also a lot more fat. I have started a cut which will last several weeks and I'm following the same approach from 2 years ago ... and am highly confident that Animal Cuts will help me get leaner as it did then. :)
[QUOTE=guest;440329671]Ask, and ye shall receive...
I was a lot more strict this time around on RED. Weight loss not as dramatic as Animal Cuts, and BF% drop not as great as the Dicana + Lean Xtreme combo. But, I did see a reasonable drop in both. But, there is another intangible: It's so easy to take, and the mood elevation + sleep is soooo nice! It's pretty much worth it for those aspects alone. I almost think of the weight/fat loss as a side effect! I drift anywhere between the high 8's to just under 11% BF, so I'm not expecting a huge loss. So, the other factors will make this something that I go back to with some regularity (but, I do tend to cycle through products that work in different ways).
Next up...ordered some of the Cellucor stuff. I'll see how that stacks up. It sure as hell won't win on price! ($140 for the D4 TC + T7 :eek: )[/QUOTE]
These are only my experiences - but maybe someone will find them helpful:
Finishing up Cellucor D4 (Thermo Cuts) + T7. Not really sure what to make of these. The first week on them was good - I was pleasantly surprised, actually. But after that, was like a complete reversal. Seriously - I think I gained 5lbs on this stack. Not only did it cease to keep burning - but it increased my appetite to a point where I was miserable half the time because I wanted to eat more and more :eek:
It became a better bulking supp. Honestly, the only thing worse for cutting would have been to eat a whole birthday cake every day. So, to bring it all home:
Dicana + LeanXtreme = [b]A/A-[/b]
- Best in BF% decrease, IMO.
Animal Cuts = [b]A-/B+[/b]
- Best overall weight loss
REDuction = [b]B[/b]
- Very good weight loss with very pleasant side effects (mood/sleep)
Mitotropin = [b]B-/C+[/b]
- Average to above average burner. Nice to cycle through to switch things up.
D4 +T7 = [b]D+[/b]
- Gets a D+ because maybe it's useful to take for a week and switch to something else???
So i just finished my bottles of REDuction am/pm and i have to say this product worked great considering my diet wasn't so clean at times but my dedication too the gym was. I lost 8 lbs and didn't sacrifice any muscle or strength.
Question.I'm going to give animal cuts a shot stacked with REDuction pm how long should i wait seeing i just finished the REDuction bottles and is it still fine to use the pm pills after a month of use.
And im going to order some REDuction pills for my wife she just started going to to gym they are woman safe correct?
[QUOTE=inkman411;458495291]So i just finished my bottles of REDuction am/pm and i have to say this product worked great considering my diet wasn't so clean at times but my dedication too the gym was. I lost 8 lbs and didn't sacrifice any muscle or strength.
Question.I'm going to give animal cuts a shot stacked with REDuction pm how long should i wait seeing i just finished the REDuction bottles and is it still fine to use the pm pills after a month of use.
And im going to order some REDuction pills for my wife she just started going to to gym they are woman safe correct?[/QUOTE]
glad you enjoyed REDuction. you can go right into the PM pills, cycle off stims for a week though before the other product.
yes, REDuction is for men and women (assuming they arent breast feeding/pregnant or becoming pregnant soon)
I've read through a lot of posts but I can't seem to find answers to my questions.
Do fat burners actually burn fat? Or do they just give energy and suppress appetite?
It seems most people start training and dieting while taking these "fat burners". So I am a little skeptical as to the actual amount of fat being burned by the supp.
I'm currently taking Oxy Elite Pro. I've had pretty good weight loss after about two weeks use. I used for one week, took a week off due to injury and not working out, and then started again for another full week. The first week I lost a few pounds nothing major. I'm eating pretty clean; pretty much a cookie here or there. I've lost about 5 pounds since I started taking it, since it first came out in my local GNC store. I like it, but I'm thinking I will take Cuts again. The cost of OEP was a little high and I don't believe I'm seeing the results I should be. Don't get me wrong I do like the product; but I think Cuts is a better product. I took the old formula before I was eating clean and lost a lot of weight. Some came back, but that was probably due to my poor nutrition. I'm looking forward to using cuts in the coming month or two; once I finish my bottle of OEP.
Im currently taking Lipo 6x. Not a bad fat burner, but i think im gunna try animal cuts after im done with this bottle. Sometimes i have a hard time sleeping due to a constantly changing work schedule. will Reduction PM really help me get to sleep? and it would be fine to take in conjunction with animal cuts i assume. Overall, how do u like it?
[QUOTE=Das Gildenmeister;459470621]Im currently taking Lipo 6x. Not a bad fat burner, but i think im gunna try animal cuts after im done with this bottle. Sometimes i have a hard time sleeping due to a constantly changing work schedule. will Reduction PM really help me get to sleep? and it would be fine to take in conjunction with animal cuts i assume. Overall, how do u like it?[/QUOTE]
I love Reduction PM! I don't think it helps me get to sleep at all. It does seem to feel like I sleep better while using it, though.
the labrada charge ephedra free looks good
anyone tryed it?
This is a hard choice for me. I used Oxelite Pro for 2 months and loved it. I'm now trying Animal Cuts and loving it too. Half vote for each.
[QUOTE=naturalguy;397808381]The new version of Animal Cuts has a powerful CCK Inhibiting Complex which works very effectively as an appetite suppressor plus 7 other effective complexes that will help in all aspects of fat burning.
The new Animal Cuts is currently the #1 fat burner on bb.com:
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ephfreetop.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
Can you stack animal cuts with lean xtreme?
would this be useful?
and how exactly would you stack it?
Also, if I take animal cuts in the morning after waking, that is like 6 am for me, I dont work out until around 5 pm. Would it be ok to wait on the 2nd pack until an hour or so before my 5pm workout so I would get the effects during the workout?
[QUOTE=Das Gildenmeister;459470621]Im currently taking Lipo 6x. Not a bad fat burner, but i think im gunna try animal cuts after im done with this bottle. Sometimes i have a hard time sleeping due to a constantly changing work schedule. will Reduction PM really help me get to sleep? and it would be fine to take in conjunction with animal cuts i assume. Overall, how do u like it?[/QUOTE]REDuction pm should help and it stacks well with all of these stim burners.
[QUOTE=AlphaBrass01;459471521]I love Reduction PM! I don't think it helps me get to sleep at all. It does seem to feel like I sleep better while using it, though.[/QUOTE]
glad your enjoying it. do you have the whole kit (am and pm) or just pm?