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picked up some Lipo 6 and I dont know if I have felt anything different. All i know is my stomache has been feeling kinda weird...maybe its cause of the carbonated beverages i had. Ill see whats happens in a week or so..i havent pulled the full dose yet either.
[QUOTE=DarthPollo]I used T7 and D4 combined and i drop a lot of fat, and i wasn't working out really bad and not doing the greatest diet, they worked good i droped like 6 kgs in 1 month and got ripped[/QUOTE]
What are those supplements i tried to search T7 and it couldn't find anything so I'am guessing that is not the full name
hey.. i've tried both Thermo-Gain by muscletech and Lipo-6 by nutrex.. thermo-gain gave me MUCH better results.. by far.
Lipo6 all the way!! Went from 197lbs to 186lbs in about 5 weeks, lost just over 2" off my waist, whilst upper body measurements were maintained. Lost a little size off my legs, but nothing a lean bulk won't fix :)
Timo
I finally received my Lipo 6 and I like it. It def. gave me an energy boost.
MAN SCORCH didn't do much for me at first and I stopped taking it for a while, but I started taking it again if I was feeling lazy and it gave me some energy for cardio. Also, it pretty much killed my appetite, so I think it's excellent for all my fellow fat lazy endomorphs. The only complaint is it seems to work erractically. Sometimes it fills me with energy and gives me an almost scary sense of focus and clarity and other times I feel no effect. It works more often now than at first (perhaps my body needed to get used to it?). I almost always sweat more with it though.
EDIT:
I just wanted to note that 98% of my results came from diet and excercise. A lot of people say that supps (especially anything beyond whey and creatine) are merely good for fine-tuning your hard work and they are 100% right.
Lipo-6 seems to be the best stuff I've tried (haven't tried thermorexin or TIGHT though). I attribute better, more potent ingrediants in Lipo-6 to the success of it. Just by looking at the ingrediants I wouldn't have been too impressed but it still seems to be working pretty well. Doesn't give me jitters either.
Currently on the Lipo-6 after trying just about everything on the market - Hot Rox, Hydroxycut (with and without Ephedrine), Straight ephedrine, Red8. etc etc. Finding that Lipo-6 is working really well. Not getting jittery at all and seem to have the energy at the right time- Hot Rox meant for some restless nights. I still reckon for a good sweatup- L-Carnitine is still the way to go. No far fetched ingredients and always survives once the hype dies down on a new product.
I miss using good ole' Stacker 2 with ephedra.
LIPO 6 is the best.Avant Labs SesaThin is a great one too.
Anyone heard of Ergo Pharm AMP? I'm planning on buying Man Scorch soon unless I can find a better product. It seems to be getting the most positive reviews
used to take Ephedra Hydroxycut, that WAS the best... I've tried everything.... the best I've found since the ban are...
Redline - makes you wanna tear someone heart out, and make syou sweat your ass off...
Thermogain- reminds me of old hydroxycut
Thermoshred- has a nice drying effect... lost about 10lbs of water in just a week...
Ergopharm AMP is a good preworkout stimulant with a touch of a fat burner. I like to combine 2 caps of AMP with a cap of Leanfire from Instone.
Well I just ordered SCORCH and Now it seems I wont be able to get it across the border. What a bunch of bull****!
[QUOTE=Judgelex]Well I just ordered SCORCH and Now it seems I wont be able to get it across the border. What a bunch of bull****![/QUOTE]
wow that sucks.. why exactly is that? i just checked my tracking #, supposed to be here tomorrow
I weigh a buck 80 and have little fat around my waist. Zantrex burnt off little over five pounds (with no cardio shhhh...). Major nausea though.
Yes my vote goes to Lipo 6 - really suppresses appetite and if you really kick the cardio hard, you'll see results bigtime.
Good luck all.
I think ephedrine is the only way to go. I do not believe in ephedra-free products...its a total gimmick. Stick with ephedra pills and combine it with ur fat burner to get the most effective supplement to burn fat. Currently, I use ephedrine with RevXP and it honestly gives your body a quick boost for workouts and best of all no side effects! Also, u must have a good diet in order for these supplements to be effective
YES! I received my SCORCH today, so apparently you can get SCORCH over the border!!!!
[QUOTE=Judgelex]YES! I received my SCORCH today, so apparently you can get SCORCH over the border!!!![/QUOTE]
SCORCH is ****, I have it and ti didn't do much for me. But I have ephedra free hydroxycut which seems to have a better affect on me. I am now stacking SCORCH with vasopro because it has the caffeine, might as well...
[QUOTE=Yogurt]SCORCH is ****, I have it and ti didn't do much for me.[/QUOTE]Tell that to the other 1,000s of people who have had great results. Your diet and cardio probably aren't in check.
Even though I'm new to the boards, I'm not entirely ignorant, so remember this before you stop mid read on this question.
I've been working out for a long, long time now (for me at least). I think I started at age 12, so that's almost half a lifetime ago for me. Yet despite being active and eating well, I have a problem with fat that I simply have no answer for.
You'll notice that I'm not a big guy (look under my username), so I get definition pretty easy. Unfortunately, the flip side of this is that there is not much area over which to spread out the fat. My father is a large man (5'9" 360 lbs) with a slew of heatlh problems relating to his weight, and thus my battle against obesity has been a constant struggle. I was a chumky kid, a fat adolescent, and I slimmed up around eighth grade. In high school, I lifted, played football, wrestled, swam, and sprinted for the track team; yet despite my constant activity, I was never able to shed the fat.
I have 0 fat on my arms, legs, and legs, and oftentimes I lose so much weight out of my face I look like a skeleton; but I have like a solid inch covering my entire abdominal region and my ass. That pluss I've always had some pudge in the pectoralis minor region.
I'm really looking for any advice you guys out there could give me, at least to get rid of the belly fat. I know you can't really spot reduce, but I'm thinking maybe there is something I've missed.
I've tried taking Hydroxycut with Ephedra, which worked great, but is now unfortunately no more. I also tried Xenadrine, which gave me horrible headaches and bad stomach cramps, leading me to discontinue after only 2 weeks. Other than that, I've stayed away from fat burning supplements. Please let me know if there is any product you think may help, as I approach the cut-up phase in my workouts.
because there is 0 fat on your arms,legs,...and there is fat on your abs,ass...try going for a high protein bulking for a month or so,and then cut using some great supplements+your fat burner and diet.
for good fat burners:
*STIMULANTS,in that order:
1-Nutrex Lipo 6.
2-SAN Tight.
3-MuscleTech Hydroxycut Ephedra Free.
*NON-STIMULANTS,in that order"
1-Avant Labs SesaThin.
2-Universal Super Cuts 3.
3-BioQuest Tetrazene.
Hope this helps,good luck.
[QUOTE=Abu Misho]because there is 0 fat on your arms,legs,...and there is fat on your abs,ass...try going for a high protein bulking for a month or so,and then cut using some great supplements+your fat burner and diet.
for good fat burners:
*STIMULANTS,in that order:
1-Nutrex Lipo 6.
2-SAN Tight.
3-MuscleTech Hydroxycut Ephedra Free.
*NON-STIMULANTS,in that order"
1-Avant Labs SesaThin.
2-Universal Super Cuts 3.
3-BioQuest Tetrazene.
Hope this helps,good luck.[/QUOTE]
I am assuming the thinking behind this is that the bulking will lead to increased muscle mass, which requires higher metabolic conversion. Then this naturally enhanced metabolism is combined with a fat burner. Would this be your correct line of thought?
I've done something similar to this in the past, but what I did was a protein bulk with heavy lifting, followed by a stimulant cycle where I greatly decreased the ammount of time spent lifting and spent much more time on cardio. I am assuming you are advising me to maintain the lifting regiment (obviously coupled with some cardio) and not ditch it in favor of cardio. That way the muscle mass will be required to draw is calorie needs from the fat stores instead of atrophying to provide energy for the cardio.
Sounds interesting... I've read articles to this effect, but have not yet tried it. Please let me know if I am way off base here and you meant something different.
~C.G.
[QUOTE=bulldog559]true, but I need the ephedra to KEEP my ass in the gym and on the treadmill. I'm lazy and usually, limited in motivation. The stimulant helps big time.[/QUOTE]
The stimulants help me too during a cutting phase. In a calorie deficit, I'm naturally more tired, less focused (have a hard time w/ that one anyway), and EXTREMELY irritable.
currently using hydroxycut, seems to be working, but also could be the diet combined with exercise. still unsure wether you can use a fatburner with a no2 product.
I dont know how to shed it. Its like im at this plateau. Lipo 6 didnt really do anything for me. Ive taken hydroxycut about 3 or 4 years ago. And I really dont remember if that helped. So, any advice would be great on a supplment not just a fat burner, but for energy as well. Im going non-stop from 5am-8:30pm when I just pass out. Thanks~ Meg
Thermorexin - there is no subsitute
[QUOTE=ulter]Thermorexin - there is no subsitute[/QUOTE]
so did that work for you then?
Thermorexin didn't do sh!t to me.
It was good as Hydroxycut...
Yes it works great. It's the most powerful legal thermogenic there is.
[QUOTE=Cyrus317]Even though I'm new to the boards, I'm not entirely ignorant, so remember this before you stop mid read on this question.
I've been working out for a long, long time now (for me at least). I think I started at age 12, so that's almost half a lifetime ago for me. Yet despite being active and eating well, I have a problem with fat that I simply have no answer for.
You'll notice that I'm not a big guy (look under my username), so I get definition pretty easy. Unfortunately, the flip side of this is that there is not much area over which to spread out the fat. My father is a large man (5'9" 360 lbs) with a slew of heatlh problems relating to his weight, and thus my battle against obesity has been a constant struggle. I was a chumky kid, a fat adolescent, and I slimmed up around eighth grade. In high school, I lifted, played football, wrestled, swam, and sprinted for the track team; yet despite my constant activity, I was never able to shed the fat.
I have 0 fat on my arms, legs, and legs, and oftentimes I lose so much weight out of my face I look like a skeleton; but I have like a solid inch covering my entire abdominal region and my ass. That pluss I've always had some pudge in the pectoralis minor region.
I'm really looking for any advice you guys out there could give me, at least to get rid of the belly fat. I know you can't really spot reduce, but I'm thinking maybe there is something I've missed.
I've tried taking Hydroxycut with Ephedra, which worked great, but is now unfortunately no more. I also tried Xenadrine, which gave me horrible headaches and bad stomach cramps, leading me to discontinue after only 2 weeks. Other than that, I've stayed away from fat burning supplements. Please let me know if there is any product you think may help, as I approach the cut-up phase in my workouts.[/QUOTE]
sounds like you're insulin resistant bro, most endomorphs are. Have you tried a low carb diet? They work wonders for endos.
Would it be ok to take lipo-6 and ZMA?
ive been taking xenadrine efx for the past wk n its working wonders for me
Okay, I loved the effects of Ripped Fuel back in the day. Gave me such a good feeling taken prior to working out. Taking the old ECA stack pills really helped.
But ever since it was banned, I never found something I like. I've been SCOURING THESE BOARDS to see who likes what best (ephedra-free crap) But now I see some posts from folks using ephedrine/ma huang.
How do you guys get that? I loved it and had no probs with it. Been looking all over.
Seems the SAN Tight is popular (ephedra free)
thx
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[QUOTE=Sisyphus]Your question might be suited better within a different section. Nevertheless, You might consider below as it has benefited me. During the first cycle though, I did half the dosage mentioned.
6:00am (1) San Tight (1) 25mg Ephedrine
Noon (1) 25mg Ephedrine
4:00pm (1) San Tight (1) 25mg Ephedrine
8:00pm (1) 25mg Ephedrine
Cycle 4-weeks on 1-week off
During my off week, I rely on my wife and workout partner to help me keep my diet in check. I have lost 18 pounds while increasing mass and strength (2 months). Hopefully, my next cycle will be my last.
San Tight is moderately priced, Vasapro is reasonable. Usually you can get 48 tablets of the latter for under $8.00 if you price around. Bodybuilding.com is very reasonable.
For your goals, I would think SAN Tight would be sufficient. If you want to get aggressive with the fat - simply add Ephedrine as tolerated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=luvs2btan05]so did that work for you then?[/QUOTE]
Not that Ulter is biased....
[QUOTE=Par Deus]Not that Ulter is biased....[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Crazyhouz195]Hey heard some of you guys discussing lipo 6. I have been taking it for about a month now. I started out at 185lbs. Combining lipo6 and a 2000 cal/day diet (with about 45 min of cardio everyday) I have gotten down to a much leaner 172 lbs. No muscle loss either. Keep posting.[/QUOTE]
Thats great...i used lipo 6 and didnt really see a noticable difference....im on redline right now...went from 172 or so to 169 in 2 weeks...not bad so far...and i feel anything when i take it and i take 3 in the am with food and 3 afternoon with food....the best one that worked for me so far was hyrdroxycut over a period of 9 months or so with diet and excersize i went from around 240 to 180....But im still looking for a good fat burner...
This is an excellent site...i enjoy reading the forums...first post, ive been reading them for a few weeks though. Keep it up fellas.
[QUOTE=Shiv]ive been taking xenadrine efx for the past wk n its working wonders for me[/QUOTE]
what kind of weight lost we talkin about? how many lbs?
REDLINE is the only one worth using, and maybe hot rox but i wouldnt waste my money there
What do you guys think of green tea for fat loss? I know it supposed to aid you in fat loss but has anyone had any positive experiences with it?
ripped fuel extreme sucks...i used 2 of them 60 capsules bottles and it didnt work with me..
I been using it so far nothing......then again i just came back from montreal so i havent been hittin the gym on the regular.....
[QUOTE=tribeca] I have been doing 200+ crunches a day for quite a while, and I can really feel the muscles underneath, but no amount of cruches seem to be shifting it.
Ta.[/QUOTE]
dont do so many crunches span out doing many diff exercises look around the proper site bro
Ephedra is still available and works the best.
I bought the original Hydroxycut formula from [url]www.ephedra1.com[/url]
Still the best!!!
Cellucor
D4-T7-WS1
[QUOTE=Dbeezee]Ephedra is still available and works the best.
I bought the original Hydroxycut formula from [url]www.ephedra1.com[/url]
Still the best!!![/QUOTE]
Great...thanks, but i never used a product containing Ephedra...Think its a safe idea.
go with Lipo 6 Im taking Lipo 6 with 10-12 mg of ephedrine HCL i bought at a gas station
and I am getting good results, much better then from lipo 6 alone,
if you want to get ripped and shredded fast go with this combination.
Try a good hoodia extract to kill you appetite for later in the day.
[QUOTE=butchershop666]yeah, I like Animal Cuts[/QUOTE]
yeah that stuff works big time honest
Pvl Cutter