[QUOTE=Djin;282143631]Yeah, if you want to die.
Perhaps you should READ up on that **** before you even THINK about taking it... that **** can kill you.[/QUOTE]
Anything can kill you if you overdo it
Please provide the facts for me.
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[QUOTE=Djin;282143631]Yeah, if you want to die.
Perhaps you should READ up on that **** before you even THINK about taking it... that **** can kill you.[/QUOTE]
Anything can kill you if you overdo it
Please provide the facts for me.
[QUOTE=BeeBallin;282015201]After lurking around a bit on here I decided to make an account. I got a question about using two supplements. I'm looking to cut/lose fat. I'm 6'0 200 lbs. and I want to get down to 180-185, and getting my BMI down around 18%. My BMI is around 26% now which is in the overweight category.
I'm looking into trying REDuction and Purple Wraath along with exercise (HIIT and some lifting) and a good diet to cut/lose fat. Would taking these together be harmful or too much in any way. I'm looking to start in the next week or so and would appreciate any feedback. Post here or PM me with any suggestions or advice.
Thanks and glad to be a part of BB!!![/QUOTE]
that combo should be great. keep us posted
whats the best pill out there
[QUOTE=SebastianG;282157291]Anything can kill you if you overdo it
Please provide the facts for me.[/QUOTE]
Facts are [url]www.google.com[/url]. Facts are "search" button.
It takes a matter of 20 seconds (if that) to find how that **** can easily kill you. Stop being lazy.
[QUOTE=Djin;279932001]No. I found that when I take the PM pills, my dreams are wild! And I've also noticed I'll wake up super dehydrated.[/QUOTE]
Same here bro, I noticed that I have super deep sleep but I wake up right on time. I wake up with a dry mouth kinda like if I had a hangover...
The only thing is that the AM pills doesn't suppress my appetite as much.
[QUOTE=Djin;282143631]Yeah, if you want to die.
Perhaps you should READ up on that **** before you even THINK about taking it... that **** can kill you.[/QUOTE]
yes, that is some dangerous material, I would advise highly against its use.
[QUOTE=latinchinese;282958091]Same here bro, I noticed that I have super deep sleep but I wake up right on time. I wake up with a dry mouth kinda like if I had a hangover...
The only thing is that the AM pills doesn't suppress my appetite as much.[/QUOTE]
I find REDuction perks me up a lot more then I thought it did. I didn't take any for a little while and was awake, doing my chores, doing AM cardio/working out, etc. Started taking REDuction again, HOLY Christmas.
Maybe it's just me and the way I'm built, but when I was doing cardio, the shirt I was wearing looked as though I jumped into a lake. I will admit for the last six or so months I've been bulking, lacking on cardio, so this adjustment from bulk to cut could play a big role... but Jesus! It was horrible! :) Soaked... (in a good way though)
I have been taking Scivation's Sesamin and Dialene-4 for a few weeks now. I am very pleased with my results thus far. I have lost 5 lbs in January and can see less fat covering my hamstring area :) Because the Sesamin is non stimulant, I can use both at the same time and they work on different pathways. The Dialene is raising my adrenaline ...I can feel it in my workouts. Neither products makes me crash later in the day either!
[QUOTE=Djin;282980211]I find REDuction perks me up a lot more then I thought it did. I didn't take any for a little while and was awake, doing my chores, doing AM cardio/working out, etc. Started taking REDuction again, HOLY Christmas.
Maybe it's just me and the way I'm built, but when I was doing cardio, the shirt I was wearing looked as though I jumped into a lake. I will admit for the last six or so months I've been bulking, lacking on cardio, so this adjustment from bulk to cut could play a big role... but Jesus! It was horrible! :) Soaked... (in a good way though)[/QUOTE]
yeah, REDuction really makes you sweat. the thermogenics in it are pretty potent :)
[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;283156331]yeah, REDuction really makes you sweat. the thermogenics in it are pretty potent :)[/QUOTE]
Raspberry Ketones. Some dandelion root. Some "feel good" (PEA), Cayenne Fruit and a bunch of other goodness.
[QUOTE=Djin;283247121]Raspberry Ketones. Some dandelion root. Some "feel good" (PEA), Cayenne Fruit and a bunch of other goodness.[/QUOTE]
absolutely, those are some of the keys right there
CL REDuction seems to be effective for me right now and is very time convenient.
[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;283353391]absolutely, those are some of the keys right there[/QUOTE]
I noticed Orange Triad's been reformulated. Have you guys every thought of redoing REDuction?
[QUOTE=djmasters;273490731]REDuction or Cuts? Cant make up my mind. Help anyone[/QUOTE]
Here is feedback on Animal Cuts:
[url]http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=317[/url]
If your diet and training are on track, Animal Cuts can certainly help in your fat loss efforts.
Well better late then never. But yes I chose cuts. I will be taking them in 3 weeks before I go to florida and hopeing its the nail in the coffin.
[QUOTE=Djin;283746601]I noticed Orange Triad's been reformulated. Have you guys every thought of redoing REDuction?[/QUOTE]
no current plans, but if you have feedback or ideas, be sure to PM or email me about them as feedback is very important to us.
[QUOTE=teenwolf41;283454571]CL REDuction seems to be effective for me right now and is very time convenient.[/QUOTE]
glad to hear it, cant beat the am/pm system. gives you more energy during the day and helps you sleep like a baby at night :)
[QUOTE=djmasters;283766661]Well better late then never. But yes I chose cuts. I will be taking them in 3 weeks before I go to florida and hopeing its the nail in the coffin.[/QUOTE]
Great choice. Hit me up if you have any questions or need any diet or training tips.
Let us know how you like Animal Cuts.
Muscle Pharm Shred Matrix
im on cuts right now and my metabolism is retarded fast. even with appetite suppression i get hungry 2 hours after eating 400-500 calorie meals (5 times a day). if i couldnt control my eating i might gain weight on it actually. however, it seems to work if i keep true to my diet
[QUOTE=MasonSS;284164521]hey, controlled labs, im pretty sure it was controlled labs who did this.
there was a forum about a month or 2 ago that said if you sign up on a forum and ask for samples white flood samples or other samples will be sent to you for free. i followed directions correctly and no samples were sent to me. anybody have the link to the thread? reps involved[/QUOTE]
resend the request then. some people send in addresses incorrectly and some may get lost in the mail.
I'm new to the boards and was wondering if you cloud take
REDuction
and
Lean Out
Or would it be better to take out the lean out and just use 7-Keto?
Or are both of them the same thing
Thanks
first time poster- lurking since early last year.
curious if anyone has had any experience with CTD Labs Hypercuts. Guy at nutrition depot in Houston recommended it hands down. i just started taking it 2 days ago but was curious if anyone else had tried it.
[QUOTE=Dizzbeme;284533791]I'm new to the boards and was wondering if you cloud take
REDuction
and
Lean Out
Or would it be better to take out the lean out and just use 7-Keto?
Or are both of them the same thing
Thanks[/QUOTE]
7-Keto is the "cleaner" form of DHEA, or also a HGH. It doesn't work. Pass on it. Stay clear from CLA too. It's been proven that you need MEGA doses (10g or higher for some people) for it to actually work.
I know from personal experience that with dedication to the kitchen and hardwork in the gym, I lost 21lbs while on REDuction.
Others have also lost a lot of weight... Lean out, never heard of that.
[QUOTE=Djin;284563151]7-Keto is the "cleaner" form of DHEA, or also a HGH. It doesn't work. Pass on it. Stay clear from CLA too. It's been proven that you need MEGA doses (10g or higher for some people) for it to actually work.
I know from personal experience that with dedication to the kitchen and hardwork in the gym, I lost 21lbs while on REDuction.
Others have also lost a lot of weight... Lean out, never heard of that.[/QUOTE]
K thanks here is the link to lean out
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bev/lean.html[/url]
I was looking at it and seems like it is similar to keto but not sure.
[QUOTE=Dizzbeme;284533791]I'm new to the boards and was wondering if you cloud take
REDuction
and
Lean Out
Or would it be better to take out the lean out and just use 7-Keto?
Or are both of them the same thing
Thanks[/QUOTE]
REDuction is perfect on its own, no need to combine anything with it
Control Labs:
I tried your sample of REDuction. The AM really didnt do much for me, i mean i felt pretty normal. But the PM is amazing. i slept like a baby and everything.
Also i tried your Purple Wraath sample, that stuffs addicting i sware lol i loved it. That tingly fealing is kinda cool lol.
i want another sample of the REDuction to try again, maybe another dose will do the trick? im not to sure.
I actually use the purple pills as sleeping aid lol.
I can feel both red and purple pills are working, and it doesn't make me crash in the afternoon like others...
[QUOTE=Djin;282980211]I find REDuction perks me up a lot more then I thought it did. I didn't take any for a little while and was awake, doing my chores, doing AM cardio/working out, etc. Started taking REDuction again, HOLY Christmas.
Maybe it's just me and the way I'm built, but when I was doing cardio, the shirt I was wearing looked as though I jumped into a lake. I will admit for the last six or so months I've been bulking, lacking on cardio, so this adjustment from bulk to cut could play a big role... but Jesus! It was horrible! :) Soaked... (in a good way though)[/QUOTE]
I don't sweat as much as you do, but I can feel it's working and it keeps me focus all day long. But again I am doing Yohimbine and keto diet as well...
[QUOTE=Djin;284563151]7-Keto is the "cleaner" form of DHEA, or also a HGH. It doesn't work. Pass on it. [/QUOTE]
I've used 7-KETO for years now and I can say it works, but it's slow. I lost 40 lbs in about a year or so. It has other benefits as well for overall health, from what I have read.
[QUOTE=dirkwright;285234251]I've used 7-KETO for years now and I can say it works, but it's slow. I lost 40 lbs in about a year or so. It has other benefits as well for overall health, from what I have read.[/QUOTE]
7-Keto is a good ingredient and does work. Older people seem to respond better to it than younger.
Has anyone had experience with Gaspari's Mitotropin? im interested in purchasing it for my gf who is trying to get competition ready
[QUOTE=tripo2;285285431]Has anyone had experience with Gaspari's Mitotropin? im interested in purchasing it for my gf who is trying to get competition ready[/QUOTE]
You can get a free sample on bb.com when you place your next order.
[QUOTE=dirkwright;285234251]I've used 7-KETO for years now and I can say it works, but it's slow. I lost 40 lbs in about a year or so. It has other benefits as well for overall health, from what I have read.[/QUOTE]
Without knowing what I was doing really and just ate 1,500 calories, I lost 40lbs in 4 months... I read that 7-Keto is go for people after the age 25 or so...
Ive had good results with Ripped Hardcore from NXlabs, + it dosent cost that much (1 for 36$, 2 for 48$)
i have a quick question, wasnt ephedrine banned? i went to buy my whey 2day and i saw 4everFit ephedrine 8mg 50tablets at 10$.
I cheked it up on the net and they sell it as a nasal decongestioner (sorry for spelin lol).
I m kinda new to "supplements", you think i should try it for fat loss?
[QUOTE=crazydog;285481181]Ive had good results with Ripped Hardcore from NXlabs, + it dosent cost that much (1 for 36$, 2 for 48$)
i have a quick question, wasnt ephedrine banned? i went to buy my whey 2day and i saw 4everFit ephedrine 8mg 50tablets at 10$.
I cheked it up on the net and they sell it as a nasal decongestioner (sorry for spelin lol).
I m kinda new to "supplements", you think i should try it for fat loss?[/QUOTE]
There are still lots of places online that sell ephedra, even though it was banned. Different than ephedrine, which is a decongestant.
Whether you use it or not is up to you. Lots of people swore by it as a fat loss stack with caffeine and aspirin, and the main reason it was banned is because people were using ridiculous amounts of it which caused some medical problems and death in some cases.
[QUOTE=enswalters;285483761]There are still lots of places online that sell ephedra, even though it was banned. Different than ephedrine, which is a decongestant.
Whether you use it or not is up to you. Lots of people swore by it as a fat loss stack with caffeine and aspirin, and the main reason it was banned is because people were using ridiculous amounts of it which caused some medical problems and death in some cases.[/QUOTE]
oh,k
thanks
[QUOTE=Djin;282921331]Facts are [url]www.google.com[/url]. Facts are "search" button.
It takes a matter of 20 seconds (if that) to find how that **** can easily kill you. Stop being lazy.[/QUOTE]
I havent posted in along time, **** I havent been on these forums in a really long time, but after reading almost every post in this thread, Ive noticed something that kinda irritates me. Djin, Im sure everyone likes to hear every ones opinion, but after looking at your pictures and reading most of your advice. I think you need to slow down on giving any advice and stick to ONLY what you have done.
Your pictures show that you're in terrible shape, but you're trying to fix that ( I applaud this ) but really, you're one of the last people to being giving supplement advice or diet advice. I saw you stating to that kid awhile back taking only 1 g of protein per body weight? says who something you googled? The kid was a football player and obviously wants to keep his size, but lose some body fat, therefore your theory is wrong. He needed to keep his protein intake around 2 grams to 2.5 per body weight and cut his 6k calories down to around 4k of clean fats. Why would he cut his protein? so that he can lose muscle, power ( 2 things he doesn't wanna lose for football ) and " some " weight? anyways Im just rambling here, Im just getting tired of seeing your post because your advice is terrible. Get in healthy shape before you give any. Stick to what you experience on a supplement only please, because your advice stinks. No hard feelings.
[QUOTE=brooks937;285775891]I havent posted in along time, **** I havent been on these forums in a really long time, but after reading almost every post in this thread, Ive noticed something that kinda irritates me. Djin, Im sure everyone likes to hear every ones opinion, but after looking at your pictures and reading most of your advice. I think you need to slow down on giving any advice and stick to ONLY what you have done.
Your pictures show that you're in terrible shape, but you're trying to fix that ( I applaud this ) but really, you're one of the last people to being giving supplement advice or diet advice. I saw you stating to that kid awhile back taking only 1 g of protein per body weight? says who something you googled? The kid was a football player and obviously wants to keep his size, but lose some body fat, therefore your theory is wrong. He needed to keep his protein intake around 2 grams to 2.5 per body weight and cut his 6k calories down to around 4k of clean fats. Why would he cut his protein? so that he can lose muscle, power ( 2 things he doesn't wanna lose for football ) and " some " weight? anyways Im just rambling here, Im just getting tired of seeing your post because your advice is terrible. Get in healthy shape before you give any. Stick to what you experience on a supplement only please, because your advice stinks. No hard feelings.[/QUOTE]
You should of seen me when I was 245lbs. Let me ask you this. Can you jog at 10mph? I can. Can you leg press 540lbs? I can.
Perhaps I need to update the photos I have, and perhaps you need to read the date when I've posted them. Things and a lot of change can happen over the course of time.
You sir think 2g of protein... is WRONG. Perhaps you need to read some more and actually realize it doesn't effect someone... even if they were huge and wanted to maintain their muscle, 2-2.5g of protein is overkill.
Perhaps you need to go back in hiding and shut your mouth. You obvisouly have no idea what you're talking about either. Why don't you post a photo of yourself? Or are you some fat ass who's crying wolf?
Go back to your bridge you troll.
I use Lipo 6 and Lipo 6x as my fat burner products, but i though about buying and trying this product called Arson from Muscle Asylum Project
I use Lipo 6 and Lipo 6x as my fat burner products, but i though about buying and trying this product called Arson from Muscle Asylum Project
[QUOTE=MattJ1987;285797321]I use Lipo 6 and Lipo 6x as my fat burner products, but i though about buying and trying this product called Arson from Muscle Asylum Project[/QUOTE]
If you take a good look at it, Arson, Hydroxycut Hardcore and Xyiendrene RFA-X are all made by the same people (Muscletech). Personally I try to stay away from their over priced supplements, but maybe you might have better luck.
You might want to ask brooks937, because he clearly thinks my advice is garbage and I have no idea what I'm talking about. *Rolls eyes*
Someone has to pay for all those advertisements and endorsements - which is the people that buy Muscletech products. I'm just not a big fan of spending money on products that are heavily advertised but are no more effective than similar products.
For me, it's just like buying generic prescription drugs. Same ingredients, same quality, lower price. It's not that I don't think their products won't work, I just don't think they're any better than some of the products that cost half as much, and I have other things to spend my money on.
[QUOTE=Brandon914;285033601]Control Labs:
I tried your sample of REDuction. The AM really didnt do much for me, i mean i felt pretty normal. But the PM is amazing. i slept like a baby and everything.
Also i tried your Purple Wraath sample, that stuffs addicting i sware lol i loved it. That tingly fealing is kinda cool lol.
i want another sample of the REDuction to try again, maybe another dose will do the trick? im not to sure.[/QUOTE]
sorry, we can only do 1 sample per person. if you were on stims previously you probably wont get much out of 1 am dose.
ive been looking at san tight extreme. been finding mixed reviews on it but some look promising. anyone use this fat burner?
Animal cuts seems to have a lot of good reviews on it. Im debating on those or Reduction right now.
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[QUOTE=Perp;286735101]Animal cuts seems to have a lot of good reviews on it. Im debating on those or Reduction right now.[/QUOTE]
you can get a free reduction sample. also, bb.com has a buy 2 get 1 free offer on REDuction pm, making it like 30 bucks for 3 bottles :eek:
Hey-
Any advice is welcomed. I'm currently 6'1, 187 lbs w/ 8% bodyfat. I will be on weightgainer (TRUEMASS) and creatine (Green Mag) by next week. Ideally, I'd like to build musclemass over the next 2-3 months without elevating my bodyfat past 9%-and I'd like to get up to 193-195. Tentatively, I will begin taking a fat burner around mid-May to get my body fat down to b/t 3%-5%....does anyone have a similar build that has a suggestion for which fat burner to use? I have a relatively high metabolism, so a steady diet of cardio, fat burner, and proper diet SHOULD get me where I want to be in 30-45 days...any advice?
Hi all,
I am new to the forum and I must say, thank you for all the great info. Last year at this time is was 285lbs. I am currently at 225lb and working to cut the fat even more. My question is, has anyone used the Xsport gym proprietary thermogenics, "ThermoX"? I can post the ingredients later. My diet and weekly workout routine is in line for a product that can compliment it. I can post my diet and excercise plan in detail if needed. Any feedback is appreciated.
thanks
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