Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

trimax

GREEN-
Thank you so much for your advice. I don't mind you telling me 'something I don't want to hear'... if its true, its true!
I am on the "brian phillips-eating for life' weight loss plan. It's not really a diet, its teaching you how to eat for life... a healthy way to eat rather than a quick fix.
I have been doing it for two days, and my energy IMMEDIATELY increased. It's hard to exercise when your starved and exhausted because you have no energy (fuel from food) What you said made sense... I think I just wanted a quick fix, as I feel pressure to be gorgeous by July (my wedding date).
As soon as I began eating, and re-hydrating myself ( I was totally dehyrated), I immediately gained 7 lbs. probably water weight, but still hard to SEE on the scales.
Anyway, I will do my best not to vary from I'm taught to eat..it's just hard when you've had bad habits for so long.

Thank you for taking the time to explain things... it made it clearer for me.


Sunni

What does everyone think of Zantrex-3?
Is it a good fat burner, energizer, and appetite decreaser??

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bcrichsolo]greenstr,
my diet is extremly clean and im lifting and doing cardio like crazy, but this hydroxycut stuff just sucks.[/QUOTE]

Bump to this. It's far too expensive to not do all it claims to in the ads. A bodybuilder friend of mine took it while preparing for a (natural, he wasn't taking anything else except Whey and Glutamine) show and he said it increased focus and helped calm down a raging appetite slightly, but that's all.
You can get the same effect off drinking a strong mug of green tea - so in my book green tea is the best natural fat-burner.

Whats the safest and best working all around fat burner? My family has a history of heart problems so i want to make sure i get a safer kind.

thanks alot

i'm 24 and i'm 5'9 and weigh 230 but i'm solid and i want to drop about 40 lbs is it bad to take creatin and lipo 6 together along with 3 protein shake's daily plz give honest feedback.

[QUOTE=stillmatic401]i'm 24 and i'm 5'9 and weigh 230 but i'm solid and i want to drop about 40 lbs is it bad to take creatin and lipo 6 together along with 3 protein shake's daily plz give honest feedback.[/QUOTE]

No, although creatine mono has been known to cause "bloat". While Creatine Ethyl Ester has been known not to cuase "bloat".

also my upper pecs r frim and hard but, the lower bottom part of pec has alittle flab to it what is the best workout for this part of the pec to frim and harden it up like the upper pec muscle.

[QUOTE=stillmatic401]also my upper pecs r frim and hard but, the lower bottom part of pec has alittle flab to it what is the best workout for this part of the pec to frim and harden it up like the upper pec muscle.[/QUOTE]

Lose bf. Your pec is one muscle, not upper and lower. But you can try decline bb presses if you like.

what do people think about lipo 6 has anyone had a good turn out with this fat burner if so and you have pics to show plz inform me.

Anyone take Thermogen II efx??? I took when it had ephedra and it worked great...

my friends had pretty good luck with this myolean efx stuff. got the green tea to cut that appetite and give you the energy. he said he used it the final 8 weeks of his contest prep, and he came in pretty hard and ripped.

well, i have tried GNC's "cuts" and all they did was SORT OF elevate my body temp, nothing dramatic.
i tried "zantrex 3" taking 2 pills right before a workout, and whew boy those things have a lotta caffiene for me. some of it is mental, but it got my energy going anyways, enough that i could run longer.
got a ton of EF hydroxycut off ebay for dirt cheap, so im gonna try those bad boys way later on. actually, sense we're on the topic, im selling some bottles of it, if anyone is interesting, PM me. i know that hydroxycut is getting flamed here, but i still want to see for myself

I love AOR's EGCG MAX... check it out at aor.ca
the most potent standardized green tea extract you can buy.
I believe relentlessimprovement sells it.
When you're looking for effectiveness you've gotta look at the science and green tea has good science for burning fat, preventing disease.

[QUOTE=Jiggly]What does everyone think of Zantrex-3?
Is it a good fat burner, energizer, and appetite decreaser??

Thanks[/QUOTE]


That crap gave me the WORST headaches. Too powerfull for me, had to stop taking it.

I think Zantrex-3 or whatever it's called is a total scam... way overpriced for inferior ingredients... but they make huge profits by heavily promoting it.
And GNC puts it on display and the salespeople promote it and that really makes me ill... esp. when I see an uninformed lady enter the store and is sold on the product.
It has Niacin 50mg... a very inexpensive B-vitamin that you can get in any multi... and then the famous proprientary formula that I avoid like the plague when looking for a product. It is basically caffeine in a pill which you can buy 10x cheaper anywhere else.
Green tea extract standardized for EGCG anywhere close to AOR's EGCG MAX would be the healthiest weight loss and health-enhancing supplement out there... the studies are endless and amazing for disease prevention and the protection of the brain, muslce, skin, bones, heart, etc...
It's something you should use everdyay.

Green Tea (Camellia sinesis) Extract… 700 mg *

Total catechins……………………… 560 mg *
Epigallocatechin gallate (EgCG) …. 315 mg *
Epicatechin gallate (ECg) ………… 75 mg *
Epigallocatechin (EGC)…………… 30 mg *
Epichtechin (EC)……… 35 mg *
Caffeine …………………… 7 mg *

i have taken hydroxycut for some time now. can't complain to be honest. i can't say it does everything the ads say but not many product do. i know for me it gives me the extra edge i need to do the cardio that maybe i would not do typically. could just be the placebo affect to be honest with you. i think it works therefore it works.

I just implemented iSatori's "Lean System 7" as a product to help eliminate some additional fat. Along with that I've been using LifeWave's Energy Patches. My current body fat is about 13.5% and my weight is 226 lbs.

I've been doing a load of cardio the last few months to get my weight down from around 283 lbs. However, so much cardio has left me weaker as it relates to lifting and I have lost some muscle tissue as well.

The plan is to cut back on some of the cardio (spinning) and concentrate on developing more muscle.

I've heard some good things about this LS7 product. We'll see!

Stay Energized!

Al Ferguson

I kno this is late, but, whoever has taken Magic Herb...are there any side effects?

I hope I'm not off topic but I'm bulking and when I get to the desired weight, I wanna cut down on fat but not muscle, wat should I use????

I hope I'm not off topic but I'm bulking and when I get to the desired weight, I wanna cut down on fat but not muscle, wat should I use????


eat clean,& make sure you eat alot of protein, cardio (walking on a treadmill on the highest incline at a speed of about 3.2-3.4, 30-40 min a day)


Hotrox worked great for me

Xenadrine EFX worked for me. I'm getting off of it because I plan to start using an NO2 product in the future, probably Nitrix or Superpump.

-Hero

[QUOTE=dressagerulz23]anyone know how HotRox, Lipo 6, Thermonex EF, or MeltDown Z14 compares to Zantrex (in terms of suppressing overeating)? i sure hope one of these works better, cuz i've head Zantrex is supposed to be pretty decent in terms of preventing overeating, but when my [B]"female hormones"[/B] :mad: kick in, i can f*cking max out on zantrex and still eat like 5,000-6,000 calories/day... :eek:

...a ****LOAD of food considering i'm a 5'3" female doing only like 30 min of cardio/day (due to injuries)... at least estrogen can't f*ck w/ me while i'm on ephedra :p but i obviously need to find another solution now that its banned[/QUOTE]


trying added st john's wort to your diet, this'll help with your over-eating.

[QUOTE=peregrine]what sites sell ephedrine hcl?
i looked for it on ******** which used to carry it really cheap but they ran out.

any help would be awesome. also any notes about ordering if you don'tr have trouble breathing?

Thank you[/QUOTE]

AstroNutriton ships Ephedrine HCL 8mg tabs from Canada manufactured by Kaizen.

I've been taking Ripped Fuel Extreme for a while now,and it seems to be helping with my weight loss, but I was wondering about Stacker 2 or Stacker 3.

Anyone have anything good to say about either Stacker product?

Has anyone heard anything about Abs+, by Greens+?
[url]http://www.greenspluscanada.com/en/products/abs.html[/url]

I was considering it trying it out.

I'm thinking of stacking Ephedra and Lipo 6, can anyone tell me if this is a good or bad idea? Should I add anything in this stack? Is CLA any good? How much Ephy per serving should I be taking.

Also, sorry for the stupid question, but what's the difference between Ephedra and Ephedrine?

Well, Wal Mart had Stacker 3 on clearance for $13 a bottle, so I got a bottle Friday. We'll see how it works.
*crosses fingers*

If I didn't have such a family history of heart problems, I'd be all over the Ephedra products coming back out.

Stupid family with stupid weak hearts.:(

I have taken a few kinds of fat burners, but since were talking without ephedra, i'd say hydroxycut.

i lost about 30 pounds doing good cardio 4-5 days a week on the ephedra free version.

[QUOTE=stillmatic401]i'm 24 and i'm 5'9 and weigh 230 but i'm solid and i want to drop about 40 lbs is it bad to take creatin and lipo 6 together along with 3 protein shake's daily plz give honest feedback.[/QUOTE]

i take BSN Cellmass twice a day, Lipo-6 3 times a day, and 2 protein shakes a day, and seeing EXCELLENT results. My weight has maintained at 175, but my body fat is really dropping. Probably lost about 1.5-2 inches in the last month