Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

[QUOTE=Djin;234930571]The red ones do nothing for me any more... then stacking it with Maximum CLA, L-carnitine... I want to get Xenadrine RFA-X and stack that too.

Stimulants do nothing. :([/QUOTE]

Enter Mitotropin... Hope it lives up to its hype.

[QUOTE=Oledude187;234873581]Did anyone ever take Twin Labs "Ripped Fuel" pre-Ephedra ban? That sh*t was insane. I was taking this with Andro-7, back in the day and I couldn't drag myself out of the gym.

Has anyone tried Ripped Fuel semi recently with any results?[/QUOTE]

Me and my friend used Ripped Fuel a year or so back. Didn't really notice any results. It left my friend really dehydrated though (i made sure I always had a bottle on me). Post-ephedra ban. I wish i could have tried it before though.

Quick question, LX = Lean Xtreme, correct? I'm thinking of stacking it with REDuction. I've used Animal Cuts 6 months ago with decent results, but never stacked anything before, kinda wary. Any advice in regards to that? (looking at you controlled labs) hehe.

[QUOTE=Oledude187;234873581]Did anyone ever take Twin Labs "Ripped Fuel" pre-Ephedra ban? That sh*t was insane. I was taking this with Andro-7, back in the day and I couldn't drag myself out of the gym.

Has anyone tried Ripped Fuel semi recently with any results?[/QUOTE]


I tried ripped fuel in shake formula around 1997...it was the most disgusting thing I've ever tasted. I got decent results, but damn that stuff was wretched!

[QUOTE=vegeto626;235032221]Me and my friend used Ripped Fuel a year or so back. Didn't really notice any results. It left my friend really dehydrated though (i made sure I always had a bottle on me). Post-ephedra ban. I wish i could have tried it before though.

Quick question, LX = Lean Xtreme, correct? I'm thinking of stacking it with REDuction. I've used Animal Cuts 6 months ago with decent results, but never stacked anything before, kinda wary. Any advice in regards to that? (looking at you controlled labs) hehe.[/QUOTE]

seems like many people are stacking lx with REDuction with great results. REDuction will provide great results on its own though.

Just orderd reduction, couple ?'s I work out in the am.. is it ok to take it at the same time as creatine.. particularly dymatize xpand non caffine... and also im taking l-cartenine liquid form as well b4 the gym in the morning.. is that all too much at once?

also take cla 3x's per day once at breakfast after morning work out and 2 more during the day... thanks

[QUOTE=trboda7;235225971]Just orderd reduction, couple ?'s I work out in the am.. is it ok to take it at the same time as creatine.. particularly dymatize xpand non caffine... and also im taking l-cartenine liquid form as well b4 the gym in the morning.. is that all too much at once?

also take cla 3x's per day once at breakfast after morning work out and 2 more during the day... thanks[/QUOTE]

sounds great. its fine to take with creatine. carnitine is great to combine as well. keep us posted on your results :)

[QUOTE=TankGirl;234936041]Have you tried taking a few weeks off from them?[/QUOTE]

Of course. This was coming back after taking several weeks off from all stimulants.

I believe that I just grew use to REDuction...

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;234962501]upping the dosage isnt the answer then. cycle off for 2 weeks, then resume the normal dosing protocol. nobody can stay on stims indefinitely and continue to feel it, I wish we could, but its just not the case :)[/QUOTE]

Silly rabbit... I did do that.

I need to upload some newer photos. It's amazing the before and after now. It's like... WHO THE HELL IS THAT FAT KID?! ;)

[QUOTE=Djin;235368821]Silly rabbit... I did do that.

I need to upload some newer photos. It's amazing the before and after now. It's like... WHO THE HELL IS THAT FAT KID?! ;)[/QUOTE]

oh, I misunderstood, I thought you were on for months and months straight. sorry.

would love to see the photos.

[QUOTE=hurplegrappers;230772451]Oh & what's the difference between Super Cuts 3 & Animal Cuts.. Going by what I've read looks like Animal Cuts is the superior product or do they do totally different things? Thanks again[/QUOTE]

Super Cuts 3 is a non-stim formula. Animal Cuts is a stronger formula and is the # 3 top selling fat burner here on bb.com for good reason, it works.

Here is feedback on it:

[url]http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=317[/url]

Let me know if you have any other questions.

is using Reduction and purple wrath together a problem?

[QUOTE=DubStud;235709451]is using Reduction and purple wrath together a problem?[/QUOTE]

not at all. that is a great combination. keep us posted on your progress and keep a log if you can.

I assume you are cutting?

I am cutting...i have been slacking a little here lately about getting tin the gym...i love purple wrath and didnt want to stop taking it for reduction..i can do more cardio if that was the case..but i def will order it now..

i have a question about fat burners.... i was considering taking one. lose as much fat as possibly and still gain lean mass, but when im done with the bottle will my fat just go right back up?? or how does that work? do i have to stay on it forever?..

im really trying to get more definition in my abs and i do cardio and all that and im getting results but i just wanted to speed it up a little.. any thoughts would be appreciated..

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;235391841]oh, I misunderstood, I thought you were on for months and months straight. sorry.

would love to see the photos.[/QUOTE]

I have been so consumed with my work and working out, when I finally get home from doing everything, I go to sleep around 7:30 - 8:00pm. It's sad, but I'm just THAT exhausted.

[QUOTE=Inspired916;235756201]i have a question about fat burners.... i was considering taking one. lose as much fat as possibly and still gain lean mass, but when im done with the bottle will my fat just go right back up?? or how does that work? do i have to stay on it forever?..

im really trying to get more definition in my abs and i do cardio and all that and im getting results but i just wanted to speed it up a little.. any thoughts would be appreciated..[/QUOTE]

The key is in your diet and training. When your done with your fat burner you still need to keep an eye on the calories and stay active (cardio) or else you can gain back fat.

Fat burners should really be used to get past a fat loss plateau. I would not take them at the beginning of a diet. I would lose as much fat as you can through diet and exercise and then when that slows down you use a fat burner to kick it up a notch and get things moving again.

[QUOTE=DubStud;235731921]I am cutting...i have been slacking a little here lately about getting tin the gym...i love purple wrath and didnt want to stop taking it for reduction..i can do more cardio if that was the case..but i def will order it now..[/QUOTE]

you can def combine them, that is one hell of a cutting stack. get a creatine too to keep strength up

anyone ever tried the magic herb supplement? is there anywhere you can get it besides its official website? (themagicherb.com)

[QUOTE=Oledude187;234873581]Did anyone ever take Twin Labs "Ripped Fuel" pre-Ephedra ban? That sh*t was insane. I was taking this with Andro-7, back in the day and I couldn't drag myself out of the gym.

Has anyone tried Ripped Fuel semi recently with any results?[/QUOTE]

I took it prior to the ban and it worked great...IIRC they had 'diet fuel' too which was stronger?? I tried it post ban and it was not the same :(

Anyone got any info on meltdown or scorch? I tried REDuction and had good results but could tell the effectiveness was slowing down near the end of the bottle.

Is not ephedra illegal now anyways?

i just got lipolyze and ****lyze both stimulant free from species nutrition and i am loving them. If dave Palumbo endorses it it's gotta be good

[QUOTE=MasonSS;237319921]im going to be honest, i read on here everybody loves REDuction.

so i bought some

i am half way through a cycle (30 days), actually ive been takin it for close to 20 days, just as directions say, and i havent noticed 1 single difference.

no fat loss, no extra energy, and i dont think it supressed my appetite if its even supposed to do that.

all im hoping is that this product takes atleast a month to see results.

anybody know if thats the case??[/QUOTE]

It worked wonders for me... but then again I have A LOT more weight then you. You don't seem to even need a thermogenic...

What is your bf %?

[QUOTE=lablover24;237292261]i just got lipolyze and ****lyze both stimulant free from species nutrition and i am loving them. If dave Palumbo endorses it it's gotta be good[/QUOTE]

You should read up about the possible negative long term effects of taking usnic acid. Think it would change your mind about using Lipolyse ...

[QUOTE=MasonSS;237319921]im going to be honest, i read on here everybody loves REDuction.

so i bought some

i am half way through a cycle (30 days), actually ive been takin it for close to 20 days, just as directions say, and i havent noticed 1 single difference.

no fat loss, no extra energy, and i dont think it supressed my appetite if its even supposed to do that.

all im hoping is that this product takes atleast a month to see results.

anybody know if thats the case??[/QUOTE]
sorry to hear that, but thanks for the feedback.

have you cycled off stims recently? you may need to give that route a go. (people should cycle of stims every month or two for a 10 day period)

for real fat loss results, more than two weeks is needed. but not feeling any energy means there is another issue.

I've been using REDuCtion and have been getting great results. I bought the 1 month supply but running out so i just bought another 1 month supply. But my cousin has been taking Cellucor D4 Extreme Thermal Shock and says its awesome and that it really works well. So how does REDuction compare to Cellucor D4 Extreme Thermal Shock?

i would go with Hydroxycut Hardcore works with amazing results. Lost about 5 pounds every week.

[QUOTE=Tial;237703061]I've been using REDuCtion and have been getting great results. I bought the 1 month supply but running out so i just bought another 1 month supply. But my cousin has been taking Cellucor D4 Extreme Thermal Shock and says its awesome and that it really works well. So how does REDuction compare to Cellucor D4 Extreme Thermal Shock?[/QUOTE]
glad to hear it. we cant compare product since we are affiliated, but compare price and your results, that is all you need. also, REDuction is a 24 hour product with the AM and PM pills. maybe have your cousin try a sample of REDuction so he can compare.
[QUOTE=StoneCold2431;237705751]i would go with Hydroxycut Hardcore works with amazing results. Lost about 5 pounds every week.[/QUOTE]

for how mnay weeks? :eek:

Is REDuction safe for women? my wife had a baby 2 years ago and she is trying to lose the baby weight plus some other fat. About 40-50 pounds.

Is it safe to take with birth control pills?

She has tried almost everyhting and nothing seems to help.

[QUOTE=pbuza;238810981]Is REDuction safe for women? my wife had a baby 2 years ago and she is trying to lose the baby weight plus some other fat. About 40-50 pounds.

Is it safe to take with birth control pills?

She has tried almost everyhting and nothing seems to help.[/QUOTE]

its safe for non-pregnant or breast feeding women who are otherwise healthy. however if she is on any medication (including birth control) she should consult her doctor first.

hey im 19 5'9'' 168lbs, ive lost 70lbs in over a year back in highschool used to play football and workout for strength. im looking to drop quite a bit more weight, trying to get cut and eventually work my way towards a six pack as well :] was wondering what really is the best fat loss supplements to take to help out. i want to get the best results possible, so what is actually the best at actually helping me BURN THE FAT. also i have a prescription for ******** daily, not sure if that makes a difference in what i can take. im willing to do whatever it takes. could someone recommend the best for fat loss? ideally what would be the best combination of supplements to do so