My favorite is S.A.N. Tight. You only take 1 a day and it gives me bursts of energy all day long. I also don't get that awful jittery feeling which is always a plus.
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My favorite is S.A.N. Tight. You only take 1 a day and it gives me bursts of energy all day long. I also don't get that awful jittery feeling which is always a plus.
palo alto leviathan
i saw amazing results with lypo 6
[QUOTE=admin;2805741]If you had to pick just ONE ephedra-free fat burning product, what would be the best one?
Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!
(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take fat burners, if you should take fat burners, or why some fat burners are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite fat burning product and give your detailed reason.)[/QUOTE]
I have tried and used Hydroxycut Hardcore & Lipo6 both with very little success. Plus other worthless crap...
The two I have used that have been the most effective by far are
Fusions Bodybuildings SUB-Q...
[url]http://www.fusionbodybuilding.com/subq/[/url]
AND
Scivations Dialene 4
[url]http://www.scivation.com/scivation_dialene.htm[/url]
A few years back would say Xenadrine & Taraxatone. Anyone Natural who was some one used this stack! Don't know what the hell happened to Xenadrine but Taraxatone still helps for the moment! I currently Cycle Tetrazene Extreme or Cytolean both kick ass! For you girls its important to Cycle a performance thermogenic 5 to 6 weeks with 2 or 3 weeks off! Remember we are what we eat. Spread them calories out ! Thermogenic's just help sharpen the pencil ! Keep up on Glutamine, Acetyl L-Carnitine, Omega 3, Isolate CFM clean protein!. Jack and the Beanstalk magic pill's only exist in a fairy Tail ! Lymbo
[QUOTE=lymbo;117839961]A few years back would say Xenadrine & Taraxatone. Anyone Natural who was some one used this stack! Don't know what the hell happened to Xenadrine but Taraxatone still helps for the moment! I currently Cycle Tetrazene Extreme or Cytolean both kick ass! For you girls its important to Cycle a performance thermogenic 5 to 6 weeks with 2 or 3 weeks off! Remember we are what we eat. Spread them calories out ! Thermogenic's just help sharpen the pencil ! Keep up on Glutamine, Acetyl L-Carnitine, Omega 3, Isolate CFM clean protein!. Jack and the Beanstalk magic pill's only exist in a fairy Tail ! Lymbo[/QUOTE]
Not too long ago the FTC sued Xenadrine, ( and Cytodyne ) along with the makers of TrimSpa for fraudulant claims.
Both claimed that their diet pills would help people lose weight without dieting and exercise.
The complaint names Robert Chinery, Jr., Tracy Chinery, and their company, RTC Research & Development, LLC, alleging that the New Jersey-based Chinery defendants made false and unsubstantiated claims for Xenadrine EFX, including that it was clinically proven to cause rapid and substantial weight loss and clinically proven to be more effective than leading ephedrine-based diet products.
According to the complaint, Robert Chinery commissioned several studies of Xenadrine EFX, none of which showed substantial weight loss. The complaint alleges that in one of these studies, subjects taking Xenadrine EFX lost an average of only 1.5 pounds over the 10-week study, while a control group taking a placebo lost an average of 2.5 pounds over the same period.
For awhile I think both pills were off the shelf, but may be back on now since they've made certain restitutions and changed their advertising claims...
Interesting! I doubt any one on here could comprehend that any way or even know who or what the FTC is! Lets not forget they think taking 75 grams of sugar out of a 100gr serving (CELL TECH) they will gain 40 lbs in a month and that's not false or an unsubstantiated claim? But thanks for the clarification. AND know one today makes outlandish wt lose & size gain claims? In fact its more absurd today then it was then ! Cytodyne's law suits ! Lawyers don't eat at soup kitchens. They wouldn't even blink at most supplement companies today! What would they get! Most wells are dry my friend! Open any top fitness mag! These guy's spend all there money erecting a condos at the Arnold with 45 undressed circus clowns! Lets not compare most of this industries tract record to the likes of Mr. Chinery! Not to for get his Brother started Cybergenics in the late 80's which was 20 years ahead of its time..Most of today's bath tub formulators make supplement moon shine with Jack and the Beanstalk fantasy claim's. I know I'm a girl but Iv been around this industry for long time. I'm very well read . I'm here to give a girls point of view on a male dominate forum. I hope you girls understood my first post! Eat good Try Cytolean or Tetrazene for added help!
I'm done with this matter. If you have a supplement question I'd love to help you if I can!
Hello all,
I was thinking of taking Venom 3.0... I wanted to get some feedback on what you guys thought about it. Here's the one I was thinking about.
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/****/hyper.html[/url]
What I need is a pill that will give me a good kick of engery, plus also supress my hunger... Let me know what you guys think about it ok.
[QUOTE=Malachai;118088781]Hello all,
I was thinking of taking Venom 3.0... I wanted to get some feedback on what you guys thought about it. Here's the one I was thinking about.
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/****/hyper.html[/url]
What I need is a pill that will give me a good kick of engery, plus also supress my hunger... Let me know what you guys think about it ok.[/QUOTE]
Why not try Venom 3.0 ? It got your attention some how! you said suppress your hunger ? You need to eat! If you can discipline your self to eat small meals like 5 to 6 a day you will see in time your so sick of eating by 6 /7pm you won't be hungry at night. ...Lymbo
I've been on the Meltdown and Vaporize for about a week and thus far I'm a fan!
A chance to experience the future:
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6673411[/url]
[QUOTE=Trapper;2904869]Actually, I bought a bottle of ephadra pills a few weeks back because it was all hyped up about them being banned on April 12.
What I found was that the fat-burners I had been taking before that - Stacker 2 - worked much more effectively. You can feel these working within 15 minutes of taking them.
Definitely when I finish this Ephedra bottle off, I am going straight back to the Stacker 2s.[/QUOTE]
I used to get what many call false energy from the ephedra that I used to take. Does this Stacker 2s give you the same energy?
EAS thermo dynamax. It is fairly natural compared to others too.
[QUOTE=russell70;61901001]I am trying Musclewerks DFine 8. So far this is very good at helping me lean up and control my hunger. This product seems to be doing what they say it will do.
Its hard to find and I have not heard any one talking about it.[/QUOTE]
I've started using DFINE8 as well and it seems to be the most effective fat burner that I have tried so far. It also has a good energy kick! It is pretty hard to find though, but I ended up calling their 800 number (18007307703) and they located a store near me within minutes. Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=wakeboarder11;105575541]Ok guys I know this is my first post but im ready to give my personal review on 2 products.
First, lets start off with describing me before I say what worked the best. I wrestled for 4 years in highschool and graduated in 07. I did fairly well and made it to state even though i didnt end up placing here in california. Im 6'2, fairly built, and weighed 220 lbs as of 2 weeks ago.
I read through pretty much half of this thread to decide what fat burner to buy and i decided that most of everybody likes either Venom Hyperdrive 3.0 or Hydroxycut Hardcore. Lucky for you, ive now tried both of them and am ready to give my review on them.
About exactly a year ago i had to loose weight before wrestling season so that i could make my weight class. This was the first diet pill i used and it was Hydroxycut hardcore. Now, when i started taking it, even for my big size it gave me the jitters and i felt sick to my stomach the first week i used it. For me, the large dose of caffiene didnt really seem to give me energy but deplete my body of it. Its hard to describe, but i felt tired all day probably because my body was in overdrive trying to burn fat or something but i cant really explain it. When wrestling season started, i found that i had to stop taking it due to the high intensity practices my body couldnt handle the stress from the pill and the workouts and i was very tired in practice. It was very hard for me to stick to the diet and the pill and practice before season started, but if you have will power you can do it. Also, my bench did go up about 20 lbs while i was taking it and other excersizes did go up as well so i definatly wasnt loosing muscle while i was dieting. Despite this review, i must say that hydroxycut did design an excellent product. When i stopped taking it, i finished the bottle and lost approximately 20 lbs in a little over a month which is great. I ended up weighing about 195lbs at the end.
Now for my Venom Hyperdrive 3.0 review. I decided that i would try out venom hyperdrive this time around. I weighed 220 lbs as of 2 weeks ago and now I weigh about 212 lbs. I have to say that I absolutely LOVE this pill. Theres something about it to where i dont feel hungry AT ALL during the day, so i basically tell my self when to eat. I dont feel drained at all and i started out with the full dose on the first day and while i dont feel "wired" i do feel A BIT energized despite my decreased calorie intake. I dont get jitters at all and i really do think that this is how a diet pill should be. Its had amazing results in these 1 and a half to 2 weeks and i am definatly gonna stay on this untill i finish the bottle. I am working out about 4 times a week and am coaching my old highschool in wrestling so that makes up for my cardio. One thing with this though, be sure to drink alot of water because i dont feel as thirsty either for some reason so i am forcing myself to drink water whenever i can.
Overall, I would reccommend the Venom Hyperdrive 3.0 over the Hydroxycut Hardcore for the reasons listed above. I hope some of you could find this review useful.
-Tyler[/QUOTE]
Thank you for posting this. Tonight I'm going to order my Venom Hyperdrive 3.0 . it took me a least 1 week to really think about it. Hopefully this helps me out on my goal that I have for myself.
Good post!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I have tried a few fat burners, hydroxycut hardcore, cytolean, redline, and somethin that was in a green n black capsule lyposomethin that had 300 mgs of caffeine. Cyotlean made me feel the best, and was the best at reducing cravings, but in my opinion, caffeine sucks, cuz eventually you have to stop taking it, and those first 2 weeks cold turkey are a b*tch. the best results i have seen thus far have been from Tonalin CLA, as with all "supplements" you need to have your diet in check, and a proper exercise regimen, which i did, and i had lost weight, but i had kinda stalled in my fat loss progress, i was down to 210, and could start to see my upper abdominals, i know i was using creatine at the time so there was some water retention, but i didnt wnt sacrifice muscle gain by eating less, so i tried CLA, and i felt it worked great. i lost more fat and was still gaining muscle, i dropped down to 200 and could see most of my abs, for the first time in my life. in the time i was using CLA i went back up to 205 and still had the same amount of definition in my abs, and was starting to see more defintion elsewhere, such as striations in my shoulders, visible back muscles. i have since ran out of CLA and noticed my progress stopped likewise, so im on my way to buy another bottle, I think any CLA should work good, but FYI in used vitamin shoppe brand, as its the cheapest there and i get 25% off cuz i work there.
Anybody guys try topical fat loss products for hard to get spots like the stomach?
[QUOTE=surferbuild;122329151]Anybody guys try topical fat loss products for hard to get spots like the stomach?[/QUOTE]
I have always been under the impression that you could not spot treat fat but have heard some people give great reviews for Napalm.
Spot reduction doesn't work. period. Well, spot reduction does spot reduce money from your wallet.
What works is, cutting crap our of your diet. Reduce the calories you eat and increase the calories you burn.
I lost 75 pounds in 6 months. I have tried tons of supplements. I would recommend the following 2 in the order that I think they work:
1. Lipo 6
2. Sans Tight
You can't live on these things. They will loose the effectiveness.
[QUOTE=packetman;122967331]Spot reduction doesn't work. period. Well, spot reduction does spot reduce money from your wallet.
What works is, cutting crap our of your diet. Reduce the calories you eat and increase the calories you burn.
I lost 75 pounds in 6 months. I have tried tons of supplements. I would recommend the following 2 in the order that I think they work:
1. Lipo 6
2. Sans Tight
You can't live on these things. They will loose the effectiveness.[/QUOTE]
You're wrong 200%.
[QUOTE=-Aaron-;122988571]You're wrong 200%.[/QUOTE]
Who am I to argue with someone with 12,000+ posts.
Just bought my Venom Hyperdrive 3.0 we will see how that works for me. Read some good things about it. Will start out with 1 pill since it's a strong suppelement.
[QUOTE=FitIron;117632351]I have tried and used Hydroxycut Hardcore & Lipo6 both with very little success. Plus other worthless crap...
The two I have used that have been the most effective by far are
Fusions Bodybuildings SUB-Q...
[url]http://www.fusionbodybuilding.com/subq/[/url]
AND
Scivations Dialene 4
[url]http://www.scivation.com/scivation_dialene.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
After looking at your sig it looks like you're just adverting some crap for your own gain while trashing the 2 most popular fat burners.
[QUOTE=-Aaron-;122988571]You're wrong 200%.[/QUOTE]
could you explain?
Super Ultra crazy fat burning stack!
I have these at my disposal, I spent a bit of money obviously and I DO NOT want them to go to waste by fuc*ing up the dosage or having them be malabsorbed by bad food timing. Help me dose these out:
DCP
Lean Xtreme
Thryotabs
Fish oils
ZMA
SAN Tight / or Xenadrine Hardcore (Which would you use)
Also, since I am on a low carb diet I may run a T-booster as well, at my disposal I have Arom-X by AMS and Xtest by Xyience. Thoughts?
Much appreciated and reps!
I have to go with Ultimate Orange. even though I wasnt around when the original was legal the newer version is still pretty intense
I took half a 25mg of Epedrine and half a 200mg Caffiene and omfg!
That was 4 hours ago! And DAMNNNN! No wonder it was taken off the market... this **** is intense....
Im in love.
EC stack > Lipo6, Hydroxycut, Venom, Tight
Pretty much
EC Stack > ALL
I'm currently running Leviathan Reloaded with DCP, Lean Xtreme, Sesamin, Napalm, Incarnate, and additional Yohimbe and Green Tea Extract.
I'm seeing pretty good results. I'd suggest it to anyone looking to burn fat and hang onto muscle.
[QUOTE=jeremyleinen;126982211]I'm currently running Leviathan Reloaded with DCP, Lean Xtreme, Sesamin, Napalm, Incarnate, and additional Yohimbe and Green Tea Extract.
I'm seeing pretty good results. I'd suggest it to anyone looking to burn fat and hang onto muscle.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a 2nd mortgage!
Conjugated Linoleic Acid worked best for me, I was already skinny, but it helps with that other few pounds, and with muscle building.
My favorite overall product.
Natrol(c) Tonalin(R) CLA
Of course, some things depend on your genetics and what you need triggered.