Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

hi guys, this is my first post on these forums

some good reading by the way

my name is joe and i live in melbourne australia

i am trying to get my hands on some fat burning products. I tried ripped fuel by twinlab back in 2002 and it absolutely ripped me to shreds, then i wasnt able to get sent to australia anymore because of its being banned

was wondering if someone can reccommend the following:

1. best product around in the market, like ripped, something something , effective , and something that works

2. and secondly how do i get it sent to australia? in pill form? will it be sent in a large mail envolope?

any help would be appreciated

cheers

Check out MUSCLESPEED:
- It's amazing for weight loss
- it elevates mood
- Suppresses appetite to cut craving
- Great power and endurance in the gym

Many logs here on bb.com with the product. Also, many reviews about as it as well.
It's worth at least taking a look at it.

[QUOTE=accelerative;328942191]Check out MUSCLESPEED:
- It's amazing for weight loss
- it elevates mood
- Suppresses appetite to cut craving
- Great power and endurance in the gym

Many logs here on bb.com with the product. Also, many reviews about as it as well.
It's worth at least taking a look at it.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Accelerative

respectfully, i would rather hear from someone who doesnt have the very product they are recommending in their signature, byline and avatar. No offense

Any independant recommendations on fat burning products, similar to 2001's version of Ripped Fuel out there?

Thanks

If you are looking for something with the same kick give Lipo 6, Lipo 6x, and Lipo 6 black a shot. Many people swear by them and they will give you the same stim kick that you got from ripped fuel. Or, if you want a recommendation of something I have taken and am currently on, go for USP Labs Recreate along Anabolic Pump; this is a great stack to get shreaded on and you will preserve your hard earned muscle mass as well. My favorite, little stims and great results, can't beat it!

[QUOTE=oufinny;328951661]If you are looking for something with the same kick give Lipo 6, Lipo 6x, and Lipo 6 black a shot. Many people swear by them and they will give you the same stim kick that you got from ripped fuel. Or, if you want a recommendation of something I have taken and am currently on, go for USP Labs Recreate along Anabolic Pump; this is a great stack to get shreaded on and you will preserve your hard earned muscle mass as well. My favorite, little stims and great results, can't beat it![/QUOTE]

thanks for that, will look into that one

now do you or anyone else have any ideas as to how i would get that product into Australia?

[QUOTE=twoheadedboy;327357141]Well, after only the first 1/2 day, I'm sold on REDuction, at least the AM portion (pending results on PM). I was previously taking Hydroxycut Hardcore, and compared to that it gives a gentle boost, not an over-hyped up feeling. The biggest difference for me, however, is how it causes you to shed water...my sweat went up 2x and my pee was at normal or less-than-normal (without diet supps) levels. I weighed myself before I started tonight, 209.2. After 1 hour on the elliptical (just buckets of sweat) plus 45 minutes of moderately intense weightlifting, my weight: 208.2. That's INSANE. At this point I should have a lot of extra water weight to shed because I've been working out hard for 5 months and as I said, I was on Hydroxycut...3 straight weeks until mid-day Friday I stopped cold turkey to reassess my options after the FDA recall.

I'm pretty excited to see what I ring up on the scale tomorrow morning when I do cardio, and how I do through the weekend when I go up to the full dosage and really hit the gym hard Saturday and Sunday.[/QUOTE]
awesome, looking forward to updates
[QUOTE=Redcutter;328107031]How do you space the two packs?

On a side note;
Can I take Animal Cuts during the day(at recommended dosage) and then take REDuction PM before sleeping?[/QUOTE]
sure thing.
[QUOTE=Prthse22oz;328407921]I am currently using NO Shotgun and NO SYnthasize, should I wait to start taking REDuction AM/PM or is it safe to take both.[/QUOTE]
that is fine, but space the REDuction AM dose at least 4-5 hours away from the shotgun
[QUOTE=Carloscda;328763051]I've read that ReDuction is supposed to be very good but after looking at the ratings
at the "store page" it only gets a 5 out of 10?[/QUOTE]
some people expect miracles without putting in the hard work on diet and lifting that are needed as well for results and the three 1/10 ratings are really pushing it down. the feedback on this board is more beneficial in terms of its true merits.

[QUOTE=oufinny;328951661]If you are looking for something with the same kick give Lipo 6, Lipo 6x, and Lipo 6 black a shot. Many people swear by them and they will give you the same stim kick that you got from ripped fuel. Or, if you want a recommendation of something I have taken and am currently on, go for USP Labs Recreate along Anabolic Pump; this is a great stack to get shreaded on and you will preserve your hard earned muscle mass as well. My favorite, little stims and great results, can't beat it![/QUOTE]

Oufinny

It seems as though the Lipo range are readily available in Autralia

These products are [B]ephedra free[/B]? Why are they so effective then?

Cheers

so im leaning towards REDuction PM..

I've taken lipo6 and i HATED the side effects lol, they were awful

and ive been on apidexin for a month, its allright, but it didnt give me the boost of energy, and i had no side effects, although i did get dizzy when i stood up too fast
anyone else take apidexin before?

and also, before i buy REDuction PM, you guys recommend anything? I.E how many i should take ect..

also...i workout/cardio around 10pm, im wondering when i should take the pills?

[QUOTE=oufinny;328951661]If you are looking for something with the same kick give Lipo 6, Lipo 6x, and Lipo 6 black a shot. Many people swear by them and they will give you the same stim kick that you got from ripped fuel. Or, if you want a recommendation of something I have taken and am currently on, go for USP Labs Recreate along Anabolic Pump; this is a great stack to get shreaded on and you will preserve your hard earned muscle mass as well. My favorite, little stims and great results, can't beat it![/QUOTE]

I'm almost through my first bottle of Lipo-6 BLACK, I'm pretty impressed. It definitely offers a burst of energy and really helps me through long workouts...

[QUOTE=nikemota23;329210311]so im leaning towards REDuction PM..

I've taken lipo6 and i HATED the side effects lol, they were awful

and ive been on apidexin for a month, its allright, but it didnt give me the boost of energy, and i had no side effects, although i did get dizzy when i stood up too fast
anyone else take apidexin before?

and also, before i buy REDuction PM, you guys recommend anything? I.E how many i should take ect..

also...i workout/cardio around 10pm, im wondering when i should take the pills?[/QUOTE]

any reason you are avoiding stims? if not, then look into the full REDuction (am/pm)

REDuction AM is only about 1 cup of coffee per pill (from what I can tell, mg-wise), so 2 cups of coffee per dose. I don't know about you guys but if I'm not taking in any other caffeine, 2 cups of coffee isn't going to do a whole lot (jittery-wise).

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;329117541]updates[/quote]

It's continued to be great...6 lbs in 6 days. What I'd like to know is if I could split the two AM pills...the caffeine wears off on me mid-day while still at work and I'd rather stick to supplements for caffeine than having to get some 1pm sludge coffee at the office. I won't do it if it'll be less effective, however.

[QUOTE=twoheadedboy;329706481]REDuction AM is only about 1 cup of coffee per pill (from what I can tell, mg-wise), so 2 cups of coffee per dose. I don't know about you guys but if I'm not taking in any other caffeine, 2 cups of coffee isn't going to do a whole lot (jittery-wise).[/QUOTE] there are other stims in there too, not just caffeine

[QUOTE=twoheadedboy;329708391]It's continued to be great...6 lbs in 6 days. What I'd like to know is if I could split the two AM pills...the caffeine wears off on me mid-day while still at work and I'd rather stick to supplements for caffeine than having to get some 1pm sludge coffee at the office. I won't do it if it'll be less effective, however.[/QUOTE]

absolutely, that is fine

I tried REDuction, which sucked, Mitotropin was ok, hydroxycut hardcore was great for me until it started killing people, I am now trying cytolean....

why was Xenedrine NRG discontinued???? I loved that stuff! I dropped over 40 pounds in 4 months on that! I also didn't get that jittery feeling that some can give you... Now I'm taking Ripped Fuel 5X but it's just not the same.






[QUOTE=bosco_;326416903]So I've gotten up to 228 and now summer is almost here. It's not fat but some did accumulate as usual.

I had previously used the CL stack (GM, WF and PW) which was awesome. I cycled off it and used VPX NO Shotgun and SyntheSize. (I think taking one pre-wo and the other post gave me gastrointestinal problems.) They worked but actually not as good as the CL stuff.

Now I am taking Purple K, AllMax MusclePrime and BCAA caps.

This is all in conjunction with multi's, Omega-3's, B6/12, extra zinc and selenium and saw palmetto. As well, high protein diet, with Whey isolate or myoplex as supp meals.

Now besides ramping up cardio I want to strip a bit of fat off. I was debating ECA and taking green tea and CLA. I also was thinking of taking CL Reduction.

Should I take all or would the ECA be unnecessary with Reduction and vice versa?

Thanks for any opinions.[/QUOTE]

I do not often post on the forums unless I feel I have something VERY worthwhile to contribute. I have used all the big name fatburners like Hydroxycut Hardcore, Lipo 6x, Arson, MAN Scorch, Animal Cuts, EC, all with varying degrees of success............I recently started using Slim Xtreme (SX) by Anabolic Extreme. I must inform you this is one of the best fatburners I have ever tried. Its the first true 12 hour + fatburner. I take 2 in the morning and I get clean CONSISTENT energy, and focus the entire day without any feelings of jitters, nervousness or discomfort. It isn't a caffeine pill like most fatburners yet it lasts all day without any side effects. You feel productive and energetic. You are better at work, in the gym and everywhere else your life will take you. I can't stress enough how much I like this product! The ingredients that are in SX are revolutionary as are the ingredients in the other amazing products from this company. For those in the know, they will confirm that this company just puts out awesome product after awesome product. I was a skeptic until I tried this product. Do your research!!!!

[QUOTE=joe8489;329204371]Oufinny

It seems as though the Lipo range are readily available in Autralia

These products are [B]ephedra free[/B]? Why are they so effective then?

Cheers[/QUOTE]

Yes they are available here and they work great. I'm using an old bottle of Lipo 6 I had lying around atm and I'm getting great results. I'm sure the new versions are even better.

You have to be careful with trying to get fat burners from the states because if you try and import anything with Yohimbine in it, Customs will seize it. Been there, done that.

It may cost a bit more, but imo you should just buy some Lipo 6 from an Aussie supplement store like Vitaminking or something similar. If you wanna buy from BB.com, you should be able to get some MAN Scorch in without any troubles (I've bought tons of it from here) and it's dirt cheap and works well.

Good luck mate.

[QUOTE=BadWog;331852291]Yes they are available here and they work great. I'm using an old bottle of Lipo 6 I had lying around atm and I'm getting great results. I'm sure the new versions are even better.

You have to be careful with trying to get fat burners from the states because if you try and import anything with Yohimbine in it, Customs will seize it. Been there, done that.

It may cost a bit more, but imo you should just buy some Lipo 6 from an Aussie supplement store like Vitaminking or something similar. If you wanna buy from BB.com, you should be able to get some MAN Scorch in without any troubles (I've bought tons of it from here) and it's dirt cheap and works well.

Good luck mate.[/QUOTE]

we now have a powdered version of REDuction available exclusively in Australia :)

[QUOTE=joshy22;331673701]I do not often post on the forums unless I feel I have something VERY worthwhile to contribute. I have used all the big name fatburners like Hydroxycut Hardcore, Lipo 6x, Arson, MAN Scorch, Animal Cuts, EC, all with varying degrees of success............I recently started using Slim Xtreme (SX) by Anabolic Extreme. I must inform you this is one of the best fatburners I have ever tried. Its the first true 12 hour + fatburner. I take 2 in the morning and I get clean CONSISTENT energy, and focus the entire day without any feelings of jitters, nervousness or discomfort. It isn't a caffeine pill like most fatburners yet it lasts all day without any side effects. You feel productive and energetic. You are better at work, in the gym and everywhere else your life will take you. I can't stress enough how much I like this product! The ingredients that are in SX are revolutionary as are the ingredients in the other amazing products from this company. For those in the know, they will confirm that this company just puts out awesome product after awesome product. I was a skeptic until I tried this product. Do your research!!!![/QUOTE]

I am not 100% sure on the product you are talking about, is it in the bb.com store? I see Stimulant X by anabolic extreme and Lean FX by Anabolic Extreme.

[QUOTE=tflorko;332319461]I am not 100% sure on the product you are talking about, is it in the bb.com store? I see Stimulant X by anabolic extreme and Lean FX by Anabolic Extreme.[/QUOTE]

Slim Xtreme will be on BB next week. It is Anabolic X's newest fat burning supplement,

Check it out at PowerOfSX.com

so i have been wanting to start taking a fat burner only thing i have taken is MHP's Trac creatine and had great results....i had some extra cash so went to the store for the CL reduction but they do not carry it at the store i was choosing between animal cuts, man scoorch, lean extreme and anadrox. I am very sensative to stims and have bad anxiety and depression so wanted to be careful.

i choose the anadrox b/c it works as a NO to and I really liked trac for that. I deff get a great work out and boosted mood and really not jumpy or any anxiety i have been taking for 3 or 4 days now and im up to the max dose.....i havent read to many bad things about it except that its not a great fat burner, everyone said it does all the things its doing but i want a fat burner to get rid of my little belly that i just cant do w/o completely cutting all carbs which always comes back once you start eating them...
also my girls mom gave her two full things of CLA can i mix this?? i have read that its just kind of seperates the good and bad fats to burn the bad ones easier?
cliffs
should i have picked i different fat burner
thinking maybe animal cuts and lean extreme or just waiting to order reduction

use mirrors and viagra and strech it!!!!

[QUOTE=bjjbadboy;332599381]so i have been wanting to start taking a fat burner only thing i have taken is MHP's Trac creatine and had great results....i had some extra cash so went to the store for the CL reduction but they do not carry it at the store i was choosing between animal cuts, man scoorch, lean extreme and anadrox. I am very sensative to stims and have bad anxiety and depression so wanted to be careful.

i choose the anadrox b/c it works as a NO to and I really liked trac for that. I deff get a great work out and boosted mood and really not jumpy or any anxiety i have been taking for 3 or 4 days now and im up to the max dose.....i havent read to many bad things about it except that its not a great fat burner, everyone said it does all the things its doing but i want a fat burner to get rid of my little belly that i just cant do w/o completely cutting all carbs which always comes back once you start eating them...
also my girls mom gave her two full things of CLA can i mix this?? i have read that its just kind of seperates the good and bad fats to burn the bad ones easier?
cliffs
should i have picked i different fat burner
thinking maybe animal cuts and lean extreme or just waiting to order reduction[/QUOTE]
just order the REDuction from bb.com, vitamin shoppe also has it if you insist on a store.

Its looking like REDuction is a great thing to use as well. I'm taking the CL stack ( GM, WF, PW) now and was wondering if this stuff would work for me?

I have REDuction at home and wanted to start using it but when I read the label, it says not to mix with prescription meds. I only take Reactine now for my allergies...is this still OK? Can I take it at like 9pm and then the PM reduction around 11?

any good fat burners that dont contain this in it?

[QUOTE=Bearster18;334316381]Its looking like REDuction is a great thing to use as well. I'm taking the CL stack ( GM, WF, PW) now and was wondering if this stuff would work for me?[/QUOTE]
absolutely, will stack perfectly with those.
[QUOTE=Atom_Bomb;334583681]I have REDuction at home and wanted to start using it but when I read the label, it says not to mix with prescription meds. I only take Reactine now for my allergies...is this still OK? Can I take it at like 9pm and then the PM reduction around 11?[/QUOTE]
always ask your doctor before combining any supplement with a drug
[QUOTE=ctAL860;334604001]any good fat burners that dont contain this in it?[/QUOTE]
REDuction ;)

[QUOTE=Bearster18;334316381]Its looking like REDuction is a great thing to use as well. I'm taking the CL stack ( GM, WF, PW) now and was wondering if this stuff would work for me?[/QUOTE]

whats this stack GM, WF, PW...i have been taking a fat burner but after its done looking to go back to put on some muscle have just been doing cardio and body weight stuff do to the lack of a gym membership which will be back next week or so, thinking wf is white flood and pw is purple wrath

Is there any replacement for Zero-G? Can any supplement match its efficacy and potency? Please comment with specific results if any!

I've just finished Mitotropin and it works well, but i would like to continue on my cut, is it safe to take Reduction right after Mitotropin?