Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

[QUOTE=BMA17;293298771]ive taken a few fat burners and had some good results with hydroxycut and reduction. lipo6x was ok. im looking for a fat burner that has a real good appetite suppressant. any suggestions?


on a side note.
last year dropped 20 lbs in 2 months with hydroxycut hardore and have lost about 10-12 pounds with reduction this past month. currently down to 208. IM 6'1".[/QUOTE]
that is excellent, nice work
[QUOTE=Hellfirex;293369851]After coming down from 330 to 235 i tried out hydroxycut hardcore to get some extra help and it seemed like it did a decent job, lost about 10 lbs throughout the month of december.

I've been taking REDuction now tho and this is definitly where its at. I'm down to 207 and have been shedding like a snake the past 2 months. Only thing wierd i noticed was at some times even after finishing a meal im still starving. Other times a simple yogurt and banana will do the trick. Dunno maybe its the metabolism changing.

Either way, definitly recommended. On a side note the PM caps make sleep really interesting to say the least.. i get a solid 6-8 hours everytime but oh man the dreams are intense.[/QUOTE] sweet results, glad REDuction is helping you out

[QUOTE=mad103;293384531]A lot of you guys mention results in pounds. I think I am good poundwise. Between

ANIMAL Cuts
Hydroxycut Hardcore
REDuction

Which of these products works best in showing physical shedding/cutting results? I am trying to get something that will trim/cut down my midsection area. I have these pain in the a$$ love handles that wont go away and I have a strict diet with 4-5 workout days with cardio and heavy lifting.

Which is best for ridding stored bodyfat? The ultimate cutting supplement.[/QUOTE]
try a sample of REDuction and you will see that is where its at
[QUOTE=1MoreRound;293480941]I just oredered my first thing of REDuction, can't wait to try it out![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=smitty192;294123711]lean xtreme is amazing. got two more bottles of the new formula, and a months supply of REDuction and im stacking those together starting sunday[/QUOTE]
awesome, keep us posted on your results guys :)

i just started ECA extreme today.
has 25mg Ephedra extract and is sold here on bb.com

LOTS of energy

This question goes out to the controlled labs member. I am about to get the pm off the website. How long should I take it before taking a break? Will it stop me from gaining lean mass while I workout in the gym. And how different are the results when only taking pm as opposed to taking both am and pm? Thanks

[QUOTE=AC4u2njoy;294520731]This question goes out to the controlled labs member. I am about to get the pm off the website. How long should I take it before taking a break? Will it stop me from gaining lean mass while I workout in the gym. And how different are the results when only taking pm as opposed to taking both am and pm? Thanks[/QUOTE]

no reason to cycle the pm, its optional to do so. it actually good on a cut or a recomp. if your dirty bulking you may want to avoid it.

the am give it a bigger edge obviously and introduces stimulants into your stack

I just took REDuction for a month and lost 8 lbs and 3% body fat. Was pleased with the results.

Anypne try gaspari's Mitotropin?

[QUOTE=BoWeDuPdiver;294716751]Anypne try gaspari's Mitotropin?[/QUOTE]

yes, I took it. There are plenty of better cutting products out there imo - despite the hype of this. I have a review on my profile you can read

anyone every try VPX meltdown? lipo-6 and hydroxy hardcore didnt do much for me and im on meltdown now.

thanks

I am on vpx meltdown. I can't say it works miracles but with good diet and great workouts you will shed some pounds.

Controlled Labs, I like what I read about your REduction, I have ordered it and will post my initial impressions after the first week.

Note, I am currently taking MAP Arson.

[QUOTE=teenwolf41;294557471]I just took REDuction for a month and lost 8 lbs and 3% body fat. Was pleased with the results.[/QUOTE]
solid results :)
[QUOTE=ridemx445;294895031]Controlled Labs, I like what I read about your REduction, I have ordered it and will post my initial impressions after the first week.

Note, I am currently taking MAP Arson.[/QUOTE]

sounds good, make sure to take off 10 days from all stimulants/fat burners before you start REDuction :)

Animal Cuts by far

I'm gonna give Amphetalean a go later. I've not seen this discussed too much, but all the responses seem very solid and consistent.

[QUOTE=BigJonPitt;295481631]Animal Cuts by far[/QUOTE]


What do you like about animal cuts?-

[QUOTE=BoWeDuPdiver;294716751]Anypne try gaspari's Mitotropin?[/QUOTE]

I tried mitotorpin for two weeks, and i will be honest, i felt absolutely minimal effects. Nothing positive to say for this product.In fact i could swear that it made my apetite shoot through the roof, and it made me tired..

However, i must say that lipo 6x is by far my favorite fat burner.. killer energy boost, and i beleive that it truly reduces my apetite.
Will be gettin a bottle this week. Cant wait!

I'm 6'0 265 and in need of a transformation. I'm starting a workout and diet and i'm looking for some supplements.

Would you recommend REDuction or Animal Pack?

Ok so i've used REDuction with Lean Xtreme for 1 month...took 2 weeks off...and now running it again for another month. With a clean diet (with some occosional cheating) i've went down from about 190-195ish to around 180ish, and i still have probably a little over 2 weeks till i finish it. and my strength has gone down very very little.

I wanted to try something different, but since i've had such good success with this i've decided to buy a bottle of REDuction PM and LX again and stack that with a diferent stimulant fat-burner. Now i know people are gonna say since you've had such great success why don't you stick with it...but i'm basically keeping what i took but hoping to find maybe a more powerfull or potent stimulant to stack with the PM and LX. Anyone have any suggestions?

[QUOTE=EvolutionIX;296075081]Ok so i've used REDuction with Lean Xtreme for 1 month...took 2 weeks off...and now running it again for another month. With a clean diet (with some occosional cheating) i've went down from about 190-195ish to around 180ish, and i still have probably a little over 2 weeks till i finish it. and my strength has gone down very very little.

I wanted to try something different, but since i've had such good success with this i've decided to buy a bottle of REDuction PM and LX again and stack that with a diferent stimulant fat-burner. Now i know people are gonna say since you've had such great success why don't you stick with it...but i'm basically keeping what i took but hoping to find maybe a more powerfull or potent stimulant to stack with the PM and LX. Anyone have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

take a look at adrenalean. ive heard some good things with the new formula.

i took REDuction+LX stack for a month and dropped 10-12 pounds. and im gonna try DCP+ LX +Adrenalean. in a week or two putting my order in to take advantage of the buy 2 get one free on LX. but atleast i know i can go back to reduction if i wanted to.

[QUOTE=BMA17;296078591]take a look at adrenalean. ive heard some good things with the new formula.

i took REDuction+LX stack for a month and dropped 10-12 pounds. and im gonna try DCP+ LX +Adrenalean. in a week or two putting my order in to take advantage of the buy 2 get one free on LX. but atleast i know i can go back to reduction if i wanted to.[/QUOTE]

yea that sounds like a good stack...DCP is fine to take with LX? i know there both non-stim based so i wasn't sure if they share some common ingrediants or something.

if so i'll prob look into DCP+ REDuction PM+ LX and then look into a stim based one, i'll check out adrenalean again.

[QUOTE=PokePride;296061041]I'm 6'0 265 and in need of a transformation. I'm starting a workout and diet and i'm looking for some supplements.

Would you recommend REDuction or Animal Pack?[/QUOTE]
one is a fat burner and one is a vitamin :confused:
[QUOTE=EvolutionIX;296075081]Ok so i've used REDuction with Lean Xtreme for 1 month...took 2 weeks off...and now running it again for another month. With a clean diet (with some occosional cheating) i've went down from about 190-195ish to around 180ish, and i still have probably a little over 2 weeks till i finish it. and my strength has gone down very very little.

I wanted to try something different, but since i've had such good success with this i've decided to buy a bottle of REDuction PM and LX again and stack that with a diferent stimulant fat-burner. Now i know people are gonna say since you've had such great success why don't you stick with it...but i'm basically keeping what i took but hoping to find maybe a more powerfull or potent stimulant to stack with the PM and LX. Anyone have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

awesome, glad you enjoyed REDuction :)

when it comes to stims, more potent isnt always better/more effective ;)

What do you guys stack with REDuction for fat loss/cutting?

[QUOTE=Whoohoo;295950521]What do you like about animal cuts?-[/QUOTE]

Everything. I've seen improvement in two weeks of the first cycle. I lost 6 pounds in the first week and a half. I notice a dramatic increase in my energy level as well as motivation. Definitely take on an empty stomach. I generally take it in the morning before cardio, then about 5 hours later. I will probably do two cycles, three at the most.

[QUOTE=BigJonPitt;296531701]Everything. I've seen improvement in two weeks of the first cycle. I lost 6 pounds in the first week and a half. I notice a dramatic increase in my energy level as well as motivation. Definitely take on an empty stomach. I generally take it in the morning before cardio, then about 5 hours later. I will probably do two cycles, three at the most.[/QUOTE]

would u recommend using this along with a fat-burner like lipo-6, meltdown, hydroxycut, etc. or strictly use this on its own? also, i read the website and it says its a 3 week cycle so after the 3 weeks are up, do u continue the use of the product or do u stop for a week or 2 and then do a new 3week cycle?

[QUOTE=majormods;296643751]would u recommend using this along with a fat-burner like lipo-6, meltdown, hydroxycut, etc. or strictly use this on its own? also, i read the website and it says its a 3 week cycle so after the 3 weeks are up, do u continue the use of the product or do u stop for a week or 2 and then do a new 3week cycle?[/QUOTE]

Good question - in for answer

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;294988681]solid results :)


sounds good, make sure to take off 10 days from all stimulants/fat burners before you start REDuction :)[/QUOTE]

CL, could I ask why I should take the days off? I have the bottles in front of me just starring and waiting for me to take them! :)

[QUOTE=BoWeDuPdiver;294716751]Anypne try gaspari's Mitotropin?[/QUOTE]

Yeah not that great in my opinion. [IMG]http://plwedfqer.info[/IMG]

are these fat burners only for people who are very overweight or can they be used for ppl who are at 11-14% bodyfat? I'm thinking of either taking reduction or hydroxycut. It seems a lot of you guys are taking a fat burner with something else..is that necessary?

[QUOTE=PokePride;296241311]What do you guys stack with REDuction for fat loss/cutting?[/QUOTE]
nothing needed, its great on its own :)
[QUOTE=ridemx445;296732591]CL, could I ask why I should take the days off? I have the bottles in front of me just starring and waiting for me to take them! :)[/QUOTE]
to get the best results as you may have become tolerant to stims at this point
[QUOTE=helloitsme120;297042711]are these fat burners only for people who are very overweight or can they be used for ppl who are at 11-14% bodyfat? I'm thinking of either taking reduction or hydroxycut. It seems a lot of you guys are taking a fat burner with something else..is that necessary?[/QUOTE]

REDuction is a good option and you can try a free sample before you buy

is anyone still using ALR Venom Hyperdrive? I havent seen anyone talking about it lately. I used it with great results last summer.

I just finished up my first try of CL Reduction, it worked just as stated. You will feel constant energy during the day with no crashing. My problem is that I have a terrible time waking up and getting motivated in the mornings,but the venom used to shoot me up in about 15 minutes and the thermogenic affects were great 2. didnt feel that too much with the reduction.

I just ordered some Gaspari Mitotropin and was wondering if anyone had a recommended stack to go with it. I saw on the store site it was able to be stacked with any Gaspari product except Cytolean V2. Suggestions?

Currently going through a bottle of MAN Scorch. AFA energy is concerned it helps a little bit, if I'm idle it doesn't seem to do jack to get me moving, but once I start going I can feel it kick in. I have lost 2lbs over 1.5 weeks and I have not changed my diet. I started at ~12bf. Once I get through this bottle I'm going to put up a review.

[QUOTE=elradhymc;297178921]is anyone still using ALR Venom Hyperdrive? I havent seen anyone talking about it lately. I used it with great results last summer.[/QUOTE]

I actually just popped a venom 5 minutes ago from a bottle ive had for awhile, lol. I love that stuff! but they did discontinue production of venom and reformulated it. Now they just call it Hyperdrive. From what I understand, the old formulation of venom hyperdrive 3.0 was tested and found to have a prescription drug Merida "laced" in it. No wonder it brought such great results

Check the reviews on Vyper! It's probably the most potent stimulate/fatburner on the market!

[QUOTE=nateedogg27;297604991]Check the reviews on Vyper! It's probably the most potent stimulate/fatburner on the market![/QUOTE]

according to who?

[QUOTE=majormods;297706021]according to who?[/QUOTE]

Everyone's that's tried it! That's why i said check the reviews! If you would like other reviews from other forums let me know and i'll PM you the links! It's a new product so not alot of individuals have tried it but feedback has be awesome!

This Message is for controlled labs.

MY REDuction AM/PM just came in the mail. Any precautions i need to take. I noticed it said if i were on any stims i should stop and wait for 20 days. I have only take green t extract pills twice a day and also take NO Xplode before the workout. May i continue the NO Xplode? thanks

I also wanted to add my fianc?e took meltdown about 4 days ago. Can she start reduction as well? And does anyone here know if u can stack no xplode with myoshock hsp?

I also wanted to know if my fianc?e took meltdown 5 days ago can she start reduction? And does anyone know u can stack no xplode with myoshock hsp?

[QUOTE=AC4u2njoy;297751151]I also wanted to add my fianc?e took meltdown about 4 days ago. Can she start reduction as well? And does anyone here know if u can stack no xplode with myoshock hsp?[/QUOTE]

ur fiance is gonna mix meltdown w/ REDuction? thats what I was asking. Im not sure if Contolled Labs will know about mixing a VPX product with their own but if so, I am curious

saw a previous post and i agree. many people have the misconception of fat burners thinking that will help with everything... last year around this time i started my cut... changed up my diet, thats #1, #2 = cardio at least 4 times a week 20-30 low intensity to burn fat... i usually do a 3.5 spd and 3.5 inc.. now i took CL REDuction which helped me in the process... i dropped from about a 15% BF to 7%... im starting the process again... ill keep you guys updated

I not mixing , but she finished meltdown n now will do redction.

[QUOTE=elradhymc;297178921]
I just finished up my first try of CL Reduction, it worked just as stated. You will feel constant energy during the day with no crashing. [/QUOTE]
awesome to hear :)
[QUOTE=AC4u2njoy;297738911]This Message is for controlled labs.

MY REDuction AM/PM just came in the mail. Any precautions i need to take. I noticed it said if i were on any stims i should stop and wait for 20 days. I have only take green t extract pills twice a day and also take NO Xplode before the workout. May i continue the NO Xplode? thanks[/QUOTE]
sure, just space the am dose out from noxplode by at least 4-5 hours
[QUOTE=AC4u2njoy;297751151]I also wanted to add my fianc?e took meltdown about 4 days ago. Can she start reduction as well? And does anyone here know if u can stack no xplode with myoshock hsp?[/QUOTE]
if she was on it for at least 30 days she should take at least a week off before starting REDuction, for best results :)

[QUOTE=T.Vo;297601961]I actually just popped a venom 5 minutes ago from a bottle ive had for awhile, lol. I love that stuff! but they did discontinue production of venom and reformulated it. Now they just call it Hyperdrive. From what I understand, the old formulation of venom hyperdrive 3.0 was tested and found to have a prescription drug Merida "laced" in it. No wonder it brought such great results[/QUOTE]

thx for the info.

Anyone try the new formula yet?

I need to lose my last 3lbs of fat to reach 7%BF. Whats so great about REDuction?

animal cuts hands down

[QUOTE=CONTROLLED LABS;297785111]awesome to hear :)
if she was on it for at least 30 days she should take at least a week off before starting REDuction, for best results :)[/QUOTE]

I am curious behind your reasoning for this?

Did anyone come to some sort of agrement as to which might be the best in the last 90 some pages .... im taking hydroxy cut hardcore now.. wana know if its up there

[QUOTE=jamesyong;297980421]I need to lose my last 3lbs of fat to reach 7%BF. Whats so great about REDuction?[/QUOTE]
what isnt? :D
[QUOTE=nateedogg27;298091031]I am curious behind your reasoning for this?[/QUOTE]

quite simply, stim cycling for effectiveness :)

I notice the am dosage on reduction says 30 mins before breakfast right, so it would be 30 mins before taking in food. or is it still 30 mins before cardio. How long does it take for reduction to be broken down. Like most would say wait 30 mins etc.

This last sunday, I started taking MAP Arson. Between then and thursday, I lost 9 pounds. I don't blame it solely on the burner. I started eating smaller portions, and did at least 2.5 miles of running/jogging/sprinting per day. Plus I weigh 221 at 22% body fat (taping system not callipers)...So I would suppose it is safe to assume that 9 pounds for me is good considering my BF.