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I hope I'm not off topic but I'm bulking and when I get to the desired weight, I wanna cut down on fat but not muscle, wat should I use????
eat clean,& make sure you eat alot of protein, cardio (walking on a treadmill on the highest incline at a speed of about 3.2-3.4, 30-40 min a day)
Hotrox worked great for me
Xenadrine EFX worked for me. I'm getting off of it because I plan to start using an NO2 product in the future, probably Nitrix or Superpump.
-Hero
[QUOTE=dressagerulz23]anyone know how HotRox, Lipo 6, Thermonex EF, or MeltDown Z14 compares to Zantrex (in terms of suppressing overeating)? i sure hope one of these works better, cuz i've head Zantrex is supposed to be pretty decent in terms of preventing overeating, but when my [B]"female hormones"[/B] :mad: kick in, i can f*cking max out on zantrex and still eat like 5,000-6,000 calories/day... :eek:
...a ****LOAD of food considering i'm a 5'3" female doing only like 30 min of cardio/day (due to injuries)... at least estrogen can't f*ck w/ me while i'm on ephedra :p but i obviously need to find another solution now that its banned[/QUOTE]
trying added st john's wort to your diet, this'll help with your over-eating.
[QUOTE=peregrine]what sites sell ephedrine hcl?
i looked for it on ******** which used to carry it really cheap but they ran out.
any help would be awesome. also any notes about ordering if you don'tr have trouble breathing?
Thank you[/QUOTE]
AstroNutriton ships Ephedrine HCL 8mg tabs from Canada manufactured by Kaizen.
I've been taking Ripped Fuel Extreme for a while now,and it seems to be helping with my weight loss, but I was wondering about Stacker 2 or Stacker 3.
Anyone have anything good to say about either Stacker product?
Has anyone heard anything about Abs+, by Greens+?
[url]http://www.greenspluscanada.com/en/products/abs.html[/url]
I was considering it trying it out.
I'm thinking of stacking Ephedra and Lipo 6, can anyone tell me if this is a good or bad idea? Should I add anything in this stack? Is CLA any good? How much Ephy per serving should I be taking.
Also, sorry for the stupid question, but what's the difference between Ephedra and Ephedrine?
Well, Wal Mart had Stacker 3 on clearance for $13 a bottle, so I got a bottle Friday. We'll see how it works.
*crosses fingers*
If I didn't have such a family history of heart problems, I'd be all over the Ephedra products coming back out.
Stupid family with stupid weak hearts.:(
I have taken a few kinds of fat burners, but since were talking without ephedra, i'd say hydroxycut.
i lost about 30 pounds doing good cardio 4-5 days a week on the ephedra free version.
[QUOTE=stillmatic401]i'm 24 and i'm 5'9 and weigh 230 but i'm solid and i want to drop about 40 lbs is it bad to take creatin and lipo 6 together along with 3 protein shake's daily plz give honest feedback.[/QUOTE]
i take BSN Cellmass twice a day, Lipo-6 3 times a day, and 2 protein shakes a day, and seeing EXCELLENT results. My weight has maintained at 175, but my body fat is really dropping. Probably lost about 1.5-2 inches in the last month
Has anyone tried Thermogain from Muscle Tech. Bought a bottle last week but haven't started on it yet. Was just planning on using it preworkout.
I hate to do this, but I will post a link to the review I made a few months back.
I think the best that works for me is Xenadrine EFX. This will be my third time taking it and while I would be on it for maybe 2-3 months each time, along with walking six miles a day and alot of water with healthy food and counting my calorie intake, I lost like 20-25 pounds each time, but I gained it back because Id go back to eating the wrong foods and now I am at 5'10, 245lbs, I want to try to get down to about 190-195lbs, thats about normal for my height isnt it? Im a stocky guy and not fat per say, but I had good muscle definition at 205 lbs , is there any chance of loosing any muscle tissue while on a diet at my weight to where I will have to take supps for mass or anything
My fat burner is Animal Cuts, a solid diet, walking, lifting.
[QUOTE=JOE_CHET]Has anyone tried Thermogain from Muscle Tech. Bought a bottle last week but haven't started on it yet. Was just planning on using it preworkout.[/QUOTE]
yup, it was garbage.
Hello, I'm new to the forum and would like some advice. I'm thinking of buying S.A.N Tight Or The VPX Redline.
Anybody now which one works better?
I used Hydroxycut a few years back and loved it. I tried their new Ephedrine Free product last month and was not impressed.
clenbuterol is better
and more effective, and is not banned by authorities
Hi
I am a girl who is about to go on San tight after hearing so much about it. I also understand that San T3 is really good when used in conjunction with Tight. Does anyone know if it is ok for me to use T3? I have already cycled through creatine a couple of times and noticed huge gains in my strength and muscle size so just looking to get completely ripped now and get rid of last bits of fat. Can any of you guys offer me some advice - Thanks
i just receeived my CEE and was told that i should be taking in atleast 4000-5000 calories/day. now, in my line of work im always on the go and was thinking of taking a wieght gainer is this a good thing and when should i take it and what else can i take for the extra pump with my cee.
I know that different "compounds" are introduced all the time to milk consumers for their dollars, thinking they're getting something new, but this is one of the few things I've heard that actually works. Does it? Has anyone tried it? I hear that it's only really effective if you take 200mg/day, but most brands only contain 25-50mg in their servings. The one I was looking at is Beverly international's 7-Keto Musclean. I appreciate the advice.
Oh yea, I'm looking to lose fat while mainting/buliding muscle. Thx.
Val
Before we all get carried away with the latest miracle supplement (there are some good ones) let's do remember the diet and cardio. I think these factors spell something else: Discipline. Got discipline?
Mikefromms
[QUOTE=JOE_CHET]Has anyone tried Thermogain from Muscle Tech. Bought a bottle last week but haven't started on it yet. Was just planning on using it preworkout.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much it was crap.. Caffeine and 3g creatine. . . you could make it yourself for about 1/3 of the price.
Which one do u think is the best between :
Beta3 Syntrax VS Thermonex BSN ???
Both have Octopamine but which one should I buy?
[QUOTE=Trapper]Actually, I bought a bottle of ephadra pills a few weeks back because it was all hyped up about them being banned on April 12.
What I found was that the fat-burners I had been taking before that - Stacker 2 - worked much more effectively. You can feel these working within 15 minutes of taking them.
Definitely when I finish this Ephedra bottle off, I am going straight back to the Stacker 2s.[/QUOTE]
Hey,
Maybe you could help me, I just bought Stacker 2 also, and I was wondering if they are safe? How fast do they work? I have to lose 5-8 pounds in three weeks do you think these will help me? How often do you take them? Any other information about the pills you can tell me will be great.
Thanks
Sealburst
Hi to everyone,
I just bought Stacker 2 and I was wondering if it was safe. I wanted to know if it works. I am female, I have to lose 5-8 pounds in 3 weeks, will this help? Or if anyone knows anything else that would help me lose the weight please help.
If anyone knows anything about the pills, please let me know it will help alot.
Thanks
P.S. Does any one know anything about T-Lite pills?
[QUOTE=juiceisub3r]TwinLab Ripped Fuel ephedra free doesnt really work[/QUOTE]
I agree with LOOPS777, I had better results from TwinLab Ripped Fuel Ephedra Free than I did with any other products I tried (Hydroxycut Ephedra Free, Xenadrine).
[QUOTE=JOE_CHET]Has anyone tried Thermogain from Muscle Tech. Bought a bottle last week but haven't started on it yet. Was just planning on using it preworkout.[/QUOTE]
I did. Ive been on it for 3 weeks now, and I hate to say this, but its been giving me the energy that I need in and out of the gym! I dont just use it pre-workout though, Im using it as recommended, which is 3x/day. But it may or may not work for you. best way to find out is use it as recommended. If it wont work after the 1st bottle, then find another brand that works for you.
Biotest Hot-Rox stacked with Yohimbe is great for me.
I'm considering using Lipo-6 from nutrex. it's been pretty hyped and theres a forum on this website that highly recommends it from people that have been successful w/ it.
The article basically listed lipo-6, san tight and scorch,avant labs sesathin, hydroxycut and ECY stack as the best fat burners. but i'm considering buying lipo-6, has anyone tried this product?
hope this helps:[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek27.htm[/url]
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=486503[/url]
Everything works for everyone in different ways, some supplements are more effective then others and other's are all hype and no action.
Diet and exercise are the key, yes, but, what happens when you reached the point where despite all your efforts (work out 5 to 6 days a week,eat healthy, no greasy fast foods, only sugar free, fat free, fruits and veg), where do you turn to then?
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do sommes one knows any thing about the amercain labs products suche as
the fat burner ande if it safe to use
thinks
Hello,
I am gong to be going to college this fall and i want to lose some weight, since we doint have a gym around here. I was wondering what seemed to be better between the 2. I have heard alot of good things about tight and lipo-6
and alot of my fat is in my mid section (chest, stomach, love handels). what do you guys think i should try first since i will finally have a gym to go to.
I have had great results with SAN Tight
r3s0l
Skip college and go back to junior high. ALOT is not a word... neither is "doint", but I'll chuck that up as a type-o.
There is no fat burner that will work very well, if you don't watch your diet, so chuck those too.
umm.... Since when is "alot" not a word?????????????????????? O_o
umm.... Since when is "alot" not a word?????????????????????? O_o
Since when has ALOT not been a word??? Umm, never. ALOT is not, nor ever will be a word. It is A LOT... two words.
Ephedra Ban Lifted as of April 14th, 2005
By MARK THIESSEN, Associated Press Writer
SALT LAKE CITY - A federal judge Thursday struck down the FDA ban on ephedra, the once-popular weight-loss aid that was yanked from the market after it was linked to dozens of deaths.
The judge ruled in favor of a Utah company that challenged the Food and Drug Administration's ban. Utah-based Nutraceutical claimed in its lawsuit that ephedra "has been safely consumed" for hundreds of years.
Supplements that included ephedra have been widely used for weight loss and bodybuilding, but have linked to 155 deaths, including that of Baltimore Orioles pitching prospect Steve Bechler. The FDA ordered the substance off the market in April 2004.
Judge Tena Campbell's ruling sends the matter back to the FDA "for further rulemaking consistent with the court's opinion" and keeps the agency from enforcement action against the companies.
FDA officials did not immediately return a call seeking comment.
Company president Bruce Hough said the decision is about "protecting the public's access to safe and effective dietary supplements."
Supplementstogo.com will keep you posted on the current laws and news.
[QUOTE=Ineffable]r3s0l
Skip college and go back to junior high. ALOT is not a word... neither is "doint", but I'll chuck that up as a type-o.
There is no fat burner that will work very well, if you don't watch your diet, so chuck those too.[/QUOTE]
who gives a f*ck!! I didn't ask you to correct my post. I asked which would be the better of two different fat burners.
Lipo 6 is pretty good all I need is the diet to apply to it.
[QUOTE=Crazyhouz195]Hydroxycut by Muscletech is the best ephedra free fat burner on the market. I myself lost 75 lbs in 5 months taking it, combined with diet and excercise of course. I went from 250lbs to 175 lbs. This stuff really gives you the energy you need to do extra cardio that you normally would not be able to do.[/QUOTE]
I don't know if anyone else has had this happen, but Hydroxycut and Xenadrine EFA made me EXTREMELY sick....
I recently picked up a bottle of Hot Rox to try to drop a little fat and have noticed that an hour after taking it I cant keep my eyes open. Has anyone else had this problem?
I used T7 and D4 combined and i drop a lot of fat, and i wasn't working out really bad and not doing the greatest diet, they worked good i droped like 6 kgs in 1 month and got ripped
Like alot of people said Lipo 6 by Nutrex is very good if not the best fat burner you can get, not too expensive either.
I am still in search of a great fat burner that boosts my metabolism. I have tried EAS thermodynamx but it makes me feel like I have heartburn. I am currently on lypo 6 which is okay. Gives me some added energy without jitters. I did also have a great pump yesterday. I am not sure if that was due to taking it 30 min before I worked out or if it was just a great workout.
I want something a little more potent. Has anybody tried the BIOTEST HOTROX?
[QUOTE=metal2469]Like alot of people said Lipo 6 by Nutrex is very good if not the best fat burner you can get, not too expensive either.[/QUOTE]
I just bought it about 5 minutes ago. I saw it on the main page and decided to search around the forum. And most of the posts say positive things about it, so I decided to buy & see what the fuss was all about.
ok so i have been taking 6 lipo (6 a day) and 2-4 hotrox a day...figured out the best formula...of course 2 lipo before my first 3 meals to supress hunger and mobilize fat then my first 2 hotrox 6 hours before bed and my last 2 hotrox before bed. i can sleep as long as it doesnt kick in before im asleep.
i can drop all the weight i want this way.
eating clean, eating right, no carbs after 8 pm..bad thing is i feel high* sumtimes..like an outta body experience..kinda of like an (on cycle if you know what im saying)
lipo is good and the rox gets me pumped and kickin..if i had to choose i'd go with the ROX
[QUOTE=dutchgirl5]I am still in search of a great fat burner that boosts my metabolism. I have tried EAS thermodynamx but it makes me feel like I have heartburn. I am currently on lypo 6 which is okay. Gives me some added energy without jitters. I did also have a great pump yesterday. I am not sure if that was due to taking it 30 min before I worked out or if it was just a great workout.
I want something a little more potent. Has anybody tried the BIOTEST HOTROX?[/QUOTE]
I tried HotRox for a little over a month and didn't really notice any increased results.
I'm now trying Sesathin, which is kind of a EFA. - I'll post results in a few weeks.
Well Clen is legal and works wounders :D
Lipo 6 works great. I've had and many others as well have had great success with this product
[QUOTE=DerekB]Aye. Not at your max, but at 60-80% of it. My personal favorite zone is 65-70% of my max heart rate.
You should get your heart rate tested by a doctor, since the 220 minus your age is not that acurate.
If you are 21, your 60-80% should be somewhere around 119-149, assuming your max rate is 199 (which it may not be). I like to keep it 65-70% of max....seems like the best zone for me, which assuming your max is 199 again, would be 129-139.
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Maybe I'm just psychotic, but if my heart rate is anything less than 165 I feel like I am being a lazy ass. I am 23, 6'1, 215. Every now and then I really hit the zone and stay at 190 + for 5 - 10 minutes. Resting heart rate is 54 bpm