Muscle-tech's thermoshred seems to give me plent of motivation for the gym.
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Muscle-tech's thermoshred seems to give me plent of motivation for the gym.
[QUOTE=axour;84895353]Thank you for the link:)
I've tried a few different fat burners and I haven't been about to find one I really like yet, I'll try this and see how it goes.[/QUOTE]
Sounds good man. :)
[QUOTE=rocky06;84978383]One of the best fat burners out there right now is def BSN's Atro-Phex... this **** is the real deal. It not only tightens you up and shreds the fat off, it also gives you this feeling of positive attitude everytime you take the servings. Ive tried a lot of different fat burners and this one is def worth its weight in gold.[/QUOTE]
So what is the difference between Atro-Phex and Thermonex? I've been taking BSN's Thermonex and unfortunately it hasn't done much for me but I was also considering Atro-Phex. Aren't they pretty much the same thing? I'd really appreciate any feedback. Thanks! :)
I've tried quite a few and the ones I like our:
- Ergopharm's AMP. Good stuff. Very noticable with 3 pills on an empty stomach. Makes your urine smell weird, I think. I'm on it now so I'm trying to document everything I'm consuming to make sure its the culprit.
-Hydroxycut Hardcore. If you can tolerate how it makes you feel when on the full dosage. I can see some people who are sensitive to the stuff not wanting to touch the stuff. I was going to the bathroom like every 10mins.
The one from Fitness Labs is so-so. The Xenadrine EFX is so-so. Both arent' bad I"d give them a 'B'. Nothing that will make you forget the days of ephedra but not crap either. If you see a good deal then pick them up if not stick with the two above.
Animal cuts - C to C+. I really didn't get a kick from it. The kitchen sink approach I think hurts them. They should focus on quality instead of adding every thermogenic ingrediant on the market.
-VPX Redline drinks - Really gets you sweating. Can't recall it giving me an energy kick however. I usually take it before playing basketball to really kick up the sweating.
Theres more I"ll add when I think of them.
[QUOTE=admin;2805741]If you had to pick just ONE ephedra-free fat burning product, what would be the best one?
Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!
(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take fat burners, if you should take fat burners, or why some fat burners are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite fat burning product and give your detailed reason.)[/QUOTE]
The best?? Redshift with Neuridium.
No yohimbe or other dangerous crap that BSN & Muscletech throw in. Its not hyped up and over-marketed like they're known for (not to mention false promises on results). Its stronger and has a more effective mood enhancer in it that keeps me motivated and focused. I've never taken anything like it. The owners are just 2 guys in the military (they designed it for their tough needs), and have done an excellent job making a great overall product without the need to market the **** out of something that's total crap. A marine buddy of mine turned me on to this.. its also cheaper too. I wish they would have told me about it earlier.
Venom Hyperdrive 3.0
The first time I took it, I was blown away. Ephedrine HCl just got to the point where you needed to show ID for purchases and I wasn't going to do that. The first day, despite my last dosage being at noon, I was up until 1:30 am. The amazing thing was that I was up at 5:30 am, feeling like I got a full night's rest. This continued for about two weeks until even three doses a day was not enough and finally, my sleep went back to normal.
The appetite suppressant is huge here. You have to force yourself to eat because if you're to rely on your gut, you won't be eating much. It is good if you have a structured day but once I went about 15 hours without food when I was going activities with friends and stuff. Not good.
The downside is that you need to be chugging water. If you don't, you will get excruciating headaches that take days to recover from. So keep a water bottle next to you at all times. Seriously.
This is my favorite.
what do you guys think of Super Cuts 3 by Universal?
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/cuts3.html[/url]
and how about caffeine pills?
I've had some great progress with TwinLab's Ripped Fuel Extreme. I had good progress with the regular version but have seen twice the results with Extreme.
I'm getting ready to get my second bottle of this stuff.
I LOVE GASPARI'S CYTOLEAN!!!!! 'Nuff said. :P
hydroxycut hardcore is a good product as long as you can take in the full dosage (600 mg of caffeine a day)... animal cuts is also pretty good, and helps with that subcutanoeus water , it'll really make you look shredded
Albuterol......clen
Does anyone have any stories of what Animal Cuts did for them...I currently stack Scorch with EFA Lean Gold + Animal Pak. Was thinking of switching the Scorch with Animal Cuts. Anyone have any advice? Good move or bad? Thanks in advance.
designer supplements basic cuts has helped me tremendously
animal cuts is good, but not great. got some results, but they were just average.
Try hydroxycut hardcore
I know I'm probably going to get sh*t for it, but I have to say Hydroxycut Hardcore worked well for both my friend and I. Between us we lost 120 lbs. Yes anything Muscletech is over-hyped, over-advertised, and overpriced, but they are quality products. Let the hate begin...
Hi everyone.
I've just finished experimenting 2 products. I've tried MAN Scorch and it really worked well for me. I've also tried the much more famous Lipo 6 but haven't had much success with it neither as an energy booster nor a fat burner.
Now I wanna try some new brands. I've red about that Hot-Rox product and it seems like a good one but I was hoping to get some feedback from anyone who've used the product to tell me if it's really worth it.
So...Anyone??
[QUOTE=Kurt Hustle;93149063]Does anyone have any stories of what Animal Cuts did for them...I currently stack Scorch with EFA Lean Gold + Animal Pak. Was thinking of switching the Scorch with Animal Cuts. Anyone have any advice? Good move or bad? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Hey, i take animal pak daily, as well as Scivation Xtend, and Super Pump 250. I have tried numerous fat burners. For a while I was taking Scorch and Vaporize together, and then stacked Animal Cuts on top of that for one cycle. It's a lot of pills to take daily, but I had awesome results. I was taking Scorch and Vaporize for a couple weeks prior to starting Cuts, and i was getting good results. When i added Cuts i found it really helped me keep off water weight and break through a plateau. My bf% dropped within a couple weeks. Now I don't take any burners, I stopped taking Scorch and Vaporize about 1-2 weeks before my Animal Cuts cycle was up, to ween myself off the stims. When i stopped taking cuts for a couple days my body felt tired from the lack of stims but it was worth it, great to stack together imo. Just drink lots of water with Animal Cuts and be sure to have close access to a toilet! (You'll be peeing all day, especially at first)
And in reply to the post above mine. I highly recommend MAN Scorch and Vaporize. Products that did not work for me were Lipo6x and Zantrex 3. I also tried a Xyience one that didn't do much either. Hot Rox was okay, but I would def say MAN Scorch was the best stim burner as well as Animal Cuts was awesome too!
[QUOTE=FameGirl;93403073]Hey, i take animal pak daily, as well as Scivation Xtend, and Super Pump 250. I have tried numerous fat burners. For a while I was taking Scorch and Vaporize together, and then stacked Animal Cuts on top of that for one cycle. It's a lot of pills to take daily, but I had awesome results. I was taking Scorch and Vaporize for a couple weeks prior to starting Cuts, and i was getting good results. When i added Cuts i found it really helped me keep off water weight and break through a plateau. My bf% dropped within a couple weeks. Now I don't take any burners, I stopped taking Scorch and Vaporize about 1-2 weeks before my Animal Cuts cycle was up, to ween myself off the stims. When i stopped taking cuts for a couple days my body felt tired from the lack of stims but it was worth it, great to stack together imo. Just drink lots of water with Animal Cuts and be sure to have close access to a toilet! (You'll be peeing all day, especially at first)
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Awesome. Thanks for the input. I started with my Animal Cuts + EFA Lean Gold + Animal Pak in the gym today. Felt great...lets see how it pans out.
I take Lipo 6. I have seen results and been VERY satisfied!
Yohimbe proven to work
(as a sales rep I must try all products)
next in line: Hydroxycut Hardcore, BSN Atro-Phex
"Juiced Up Jeff"
Bodybuilding.com Rep
[QUOTE=Kurt Hustle;93149063]Does anyone have any stories of what Animal Cuts did for them...I currently stack Scorch with EFA Lean Gold + Animal Pak. Was thinking of switching the Scorch with Animal Cuts. Anyone have any advice? Good move or bad? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Cuts is the real deal. It gets that water weight off you so you can see your results. The energy is below average.
Does anyone know about Super Cuts 3?
I tried Animal Cuts, wasn't happy with the result (what results). Started taken S.A.N. TIGHT ... MAN!!! I sit in an A/C room and just sitting there sweating.
Dialene 4
I have taken the Venon Hyperdrive and that worked well to get me over where I was stuck. I used lipo6 but it never did a thing for me. Now I am taking BSN Atro-Phex, I didnt feel anything on the 1 pill but taking 2 in the am and 2 in the afternoon has been working but it still is not as strong as the Venom. I also have taken the hydroxy cut hardcore and it worked well for the pump but I pissed all the time and had the shakes
Anyone know anyother supplements worth trying like Venom or I may just go back to it next cut.
I am currently taking 'iSatori Lean System 7' and, after 1.5 weeks, I'm VERY happy with the results. The effect that it has on my energy levels and stamina is fantastic and not so noticeable that you are crawling up the walls.
The company is quick to outline possible side effects, but i found that as long as you keep your water intake up, and have good quality proteins throughout the day; the side effects are minimal if any. I can actually see the shape of my body changing- purely because the pills have given me that extra bit of stamina to run and work out for longer....and HARDER!!!
I've only been on it for a little while, but i'll keep everyone updated once i'm done.
Last few posts, interesting.
I was looking at trying Venom as I heard good things about it.
I am currently on LS7 and although my diet isn't 100% I am still in pretty much a deficit mode but that's how I usually am anyway. I am finding that the LS7 is helping a fair bit. One of the very few products that I am happy with as I am usually very skeptical and tried quite a few.
I was thinking about the MX LS7 since it supposedly packs more of a punch.
Any reviews between the venom and MX LS7 or at least testimonials on each?
Your help is appreciated.
What is a good fat burner to take that would be safe for someone my age (16) ?
I'm on a solid diet/workout/cardio plan, but am having trouble dropping the fat on abs/love handles/chest, geneticly this is where most of my fat is stored.
My legs/arms/face/upper back/ shoulders have really leaned out...
[QUOTE=nikbij;99432631]What is a good fat burner to take that would be safe for someone my age (16) ?
I'm on a solid diet/workout/cardio plan, but am having trouble dropping the fat on abs/love handles/chest, geneticly this is where most of my fat is stored.
My legs/arms/face/upper back/ shoulders have really leaned out...[/QUOTE]
Starting with Scorch & Sesaglow seems good
My two favorites have been hotrox extreme from biotest and leanfire inferno v2 from instone.
[QUOTE=nikbij;99432631]What is a good fat burner to take that would be safe for someone my age (16) ?
I'm on a solid diet/workout/cardio plan, but am having trouble dropping the fat on abs/love handles/chest, geneticly this is where most of my fat is stored.
My legs/arms/face/upper back/ shoulders have really leaned out...[/QUOTE]
Exact same problem here. 16 years old, actually closer to 17. I want a fat burner that's safe for me and I'm on a really good diet plan with a strong workout/cardio plan. Same areas of my body have leaned out and same areas need help.
Someone below that post mentioned Scorch but I read that shouldn't be used by someone under 18. Same goes for Universal Animal Cuts which I was intending to purchase but then realized it's 18 or under. I'm looking at other alternatives.
How is MAN Vaporize? Or the Syntrax Frye & Gug combo? Any others?
I'm 17 years old and I would have to say Animal Cuts has worked great for me in the past with no side effects. They recommend 18 or over but people's bodies progress at different times and rates. You really have to know yourself and know which products will help and hurt you. Break down the products ingredient by ingredient and see which works the best for your personal goals and your body. Your the only person who knows whats right for you.
Euphedragen (i think thats how you spell it) and Noxycut.
I'm thinking about taking Dymetadrine Xtreme to increase my intensity in the gym but I'm a small dude 5'9 130 pounds and I'm not sure if I could loose any more pounds. I could defiantly cut though, will this make me look like a prisoner of war or just make me a bit more "cut"?
I have been taking Lipo 6 for a little over a week so its too early for me to advise anyone to use it, but I was looking over the ingredients in Animal Cuts and man, it has a lot of caffeine. I imagine one can easily develop caffeine withdrawal symptoms after taking AC (or even lipo 6) for an extended period of time. I guess if I don't find myself responding to Lipo 6, I'll probably end up trying Atro-Phex or AC but we'll see what happens.
So can someone please tell me, alot of thermos and fat burners say not to combine them with other forms of caffeine. Is there one out their that doesn't have this issue because i am planning on taking Armageddon (NO/Creatine) but it does have caffeine so.. . .
[QUOTE=TD62;103016301]So can someone please tell me, alot of thermos and fat burners say not to combine them with other forms of caffeine. Is there one out their that doesn't have this issue because i am planning on taking Armageddon (NO/Creatine) but it does have caffeine so.. . .[/QUOTE]
Any of the non-stim fat burners mentioned in this thread would be good.
I liked Lipo 6, even after they took Ephedra out of it. BSN Atrophex worked best for concentration at work rather than energy at the gym. SAN Tight kept me up for 2 days straight the first time I tried it, so yeah it works. Venom Hyperdrive I have only tried once, but it seemed pretty good. There are so damn many anymore!
dsade i've read about a few but which one or ones do u recommend for best results?
[QUOTE=TD62;103094691]dsade i've read about a few but which one or ones do u recommend for best results?[/QUOTE]
Hard to be neutral...of course I would recommend DCP...but any of the TTA based burners are good. SesaThin is good. Definitely get some Fish oil, and look into adding Green tea caps.
Thyrotabs from Gaspari also seem to get good reviews.
I've been using a Tight EM and Xpel combo for the past few days. TightEM elevates my mood and curbs my appetite during the day and evening, while the Xpel gives me an extra "boost". Wow! I don't think I can remember working harder on strength training! I got some defintion in my arms. And my endurance during cardio has increased but I have strong legs anyway. I was thinking of using Atro-Plex but I wanted to give these two a try. I'll keep you posted.
I have been using Lipo 6X for about a week with a 5 day per week workout regime and have managed to decrease my body fat percentage one percent (1%) in just 7 days. I only workout about 2 hours a day and most of that is cardio. So this stuff works good. I havent tried anything else, really dont need to.
You will have to **** within 3 hours of taking it though, must be the mineral oil it contains. But overall that is the only side effect.
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Hydroxycut hardcore unfortunatly has worked the best 17lbs in a month
Hidroxycut <-- spelling?
I tried a new thermogenic called C-4 yesterday and have to say I am so surprised at my energy and endurance level. I didn?t feel much at first but then a few minutes into my cardio, I felt great and was able to stay at it much longer than normal.
I tried hydroxycut and I found it did pretty much nothing. I also tried lipo 6 and i can't say it did much more. I've been planning on trying lipo 6x with some creatine over my winter break. I have a month and a half off wanna see if i can get in better shape.
i have used lipo-6 in the past. worked well in combo with a strict cardio plan. would recommend this product
I've used Lipo6, liked it a lot. Right now, I'm using Ripped Fuel 5x. I've taken it before and I'm actually not sure how well it works.
proper diet+exercise
O SNAP I JUST DIDNT@!
Ok guys I know this is my first post but im ready to give my personal review on 2 products.
First, lets start off with describing me before I say what worked the best. I wrestled for 4 years in highschool and graduated in 07. I did fairly well and made it to state even though i didnt end up placing here in california. Im 6'2, fairly built, and weighed 220 lbs as of 2 weeks ago.
I read through pretty much half of this thread to decide what fat burner to buy and i decided that most of everybody likes either Venom Hyperdrive 3.0 or Hydroxycut Hardcore. Lucky for you, ive now tried both of them and am ready to give my review on them.
About exactly a year ago i had to loose weight before wrestling season so that i could make my weight class. This was the first diet pill i used and it was Hydroxycut hardcore. Now, when i started taking it, even for my big size it gave me the jitters and i felt sick to my stomach the first week i used it. For me, the large dose of caffiene didnt really seem to give me energy but deplete my body of it. Its hard to describe, but i felt tired all day probably because my body was in overdrive trying to burn fat or something but i cant really explain it. When wrestling season started, i found that i had to stop taking it due to the high intensity practices my body couldnt handle the stress from the pill and the workouts and i was very tired in practice. It was very hard for me to stick to the diet and the pill and practice before season started, but if you have will power you can do it. Also, my bench did go up about 20 lbs while i was taking it and other excersizes did go up as well so i definatly wasnt loosing muscle while i was dieting. Despite this review, i must say that hydroxycut did design an excellent product. When i stopped taking it, i finished the bottle and lost approximately 20 lbs in a little over a month which is great. I ended up weighing about 195lbs at the end.
Now for my Venom Hyperdrive 3.0 review. I decided that i would try out venom hyperdrive this time around. I weighed 220 lbs as of 2 weeks ago and now I weigh about 212 lbs. I have to say that I absolutely LOVE this pill. Theres something about it to where i dont feel hungry AT ALL during the day, so i basically tell my self when to eat. I dont feel drained at all and i started out with the full dose on the first day and while i dont feel "wired" i do feel A BIT energized despite my decreased calorie intake. I dont get jitters at all and i really do think that this is how a diet pill should be. Its had amazing results in these 1 and a half to 2 weeks and i am definatly gonna stay on this untill i finish the bottle. I am working out about 4 times a week and am coaching my old highschool in wrestling so that makes up for my cardio. One thing with this though, be sure to drink alot of water because i dont feel as thirsty either for some reason so i am forcing myself to drink water whenever i can.
Overall, I would reccommend the Venom Hyperdrive 3.0 over the Hydroxycut Hardcore for the reasons listed above. I hope some of you could find this review useful.
-Tyler
[QUOTE=depratercm;94779423]I tried Animal Cuts, wasn't happy with the result (what results). Started taken S.A.N. TIGHT ... MAN!!! I sit in an A/C room and just sitting there sweating.[/QUOTE]
Who is that by. Sounds like a solid product I liked the cuts it worked well when I was cutting got all the way down to 208 from 234..well it helped me at least my diet was pretty strict..not gonna give them all the credit...I busted my ass for 6 months...