Best Overall Ephedra Free Fat Burner?

[QUOTE=gountilfailure0;57696221]what company makes this dnp[/QUOTE]

Recomp Performance Nutrition makes DCP. Much preferrable to dnp. :)

lipo 6 or lipo6x

anyone have a preference if the new lipo6x is better?

I took AllMax Rapid Cuts Hardcore and it really changed my life...
I loved it.. lost about 15 pounds of fat in 8 weeks..
I noticed the results on the very first week...
i been working out for the past 4 years but wasn't able to loose the extra fat that was over my muscles... thnx to God and Rapid Cuts.. and also to the builder who recommended it...
i am using Lipo 6 now... it kind of worked but as much as Rapid Cuts...
Next stack for me is Scorch+melting point...
I dont' care about the cost as long as great results...
millions buck are nothing infront of the cardio and hard work that i do in the GYM>>>>>
Diet is very important as well as enough rest..
thanks....

i like the new lipo6x the time released ones.. oh and the asian girl from down under is cute :) the girls there are wild.. sorry a lil off topic..

[QUOTE=justin6683;57913251]i like the new lipo6x the time released ones.. oh and the asian girl from down under is cute :) the girls there are wild.. sorry a lil off topic..[/QUOTE]
Oh, who?

lol;

I've been active most my life - martial arts and rugby. Due to moving to a state that played very little rugby for 3 years, my fitness has reduced and my waistline expanded.

Moving back to Texas, I am trying to get back into the swing of things but am finding the weight to be a hinder - I am eating sensibly and trying to work out regularly. Also, a knee injury is not helping.

What supplement(s)/thermogenic(s) would you suggest to help kick-start my effort so that I can be ready for the nexy rugby season?

What has been your past experience with fat burners/thermos?
Are you sensitive to stimulants at all?

[QUOTE=asianbabe;57937621]What has been your past experience with fat burners/thermos?
Are you sensitive to stimulants at all?[/QUOTE]

I did use Hydroxycut and Xenadrine a few years back when they both still contained Ephedra - From what I recall, neither caused me concern.

Oh ok, if you like stims, I suggest AMP or leviathan, they give clean energy and a boost in the gym. You could also stack it with DCP (non-stimulatory) which would aid in nutrient partitioning and fat loss, even if your diet is sometimes sub-par.

[QUOTE=asianbabe;57943111]Oh ok, if you like stims, I suggest AMP or leviathan, they give clean energy and a boost in the gym. You could also stack it with DCP (non-stimulatory) which would aid in nutrient partitioning and fat loss, even if your diet is sometimes sub-par.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info. Where's the best place to purchase these? I did a GOOGLE search on AMP and DCP and found nothing so far... I really do not want to gain any bulk, but lose the fat - will these products aid in this goal?

asian babe u seem pretty confident on the dcp:)

Im 16, and im a high school wrestler. I was wondering if lipo-6 was the way to go for me... i need to lose 20-25 pounds by the beginning of the season. currently i take whey proteina and i am starting to add NO explode before workouts. I was wondering if lipo-6 was the way to go

[QUOTE=ranestorm;57944531]Thanks for the info. Where's the best place to purchase these? I did a GOOGLE search on AMP and DCP and found nothing so far... I really do not want to gain any bulk, but lose the fat - will these products aid in this goal?[/QUOTE]

You can get them at the bb.com store here, check out the writeups, these are fat burners/recomposition tools

[B]DCP[/B]
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/rpn/dcp.html[/url]
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=971359[/url]

[B]AMP[/B]
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/amp.html[/url]

[QUOTE=will-work4ANDRO;57083741]they really need more research, but it doesn't appear to be as effective in humans as it seems to be in rats.[/QUOTE]

There is a recent meta-analysis on humans which is positive. There is more human research than you think

[QUOTE=xcheese12x;58004531]Im 16, and im a high school wrestler. I was wondering if lipo-6 was the way to go for me... i need to lose 20-25 pounds by the beginning of the season. currently i take whey proteina and i am starting to add NO explode before workouts. I was wondering if lipo-6 was the way to go[/QUOTE]

IF u wanna loose weight then NO Explode and Whey proteins are not to loose weight!!..
I am on Lipo 6 and it is a decent fat burner..
but i would recommend to get Allmax Rapid Cuts... it is great..
try fat burners and do cardio and proper diet miss wrestler

[QUOTE=sameerkhan51;58052441]IF u wanna loose weight then NO Explode and Whey proteins are not to loose weight!!..
I am on Lipo 6 and it is a decent fat burner..
but i would recommend to get Allmax Rapid Cuts... it is great..
try fat burners and do cardio and proper diet miss wrestler[/QUOTE]

Extra protein never hurt anyone

I've been taking Lipo 6X for a couple of days only... already seen results. (=

How do Super Cuts and Animal Cuts compare?

im on my 3rd day with animal cuts
i like it!

I have been on Lipo 6 for about a week and have already lost a pound and a half. I know it doesnt sound like a lot but I think it gives you that extra push when you hop on the scale and see that you are losing.

Although I just took half the dose the first week, now I am taking the full dose so I should be seeing results even more.

for all those who use ECA stack. how do you get the ephedrine?

DrWB

I just started taking the Lipo 6 yesterday, what does your diet look like? Have you ever taken any other ephedra free fat burners?

I took Lipo 6 for about 7 weeks. I did lose a little bit of weight (about 5 lbs total) but my diet and my workouts were on point. I liked the kick it gave me in the morning but I didn't feel like it did much for me other than that. I went thru 2 bottles and wouldn't waste my money on the thrid.

I've been off of it for about a week now and I'm going to try CL Red Acid Gen 2.

[QUOTE=xcheese12x;58004531]Im 16, and im a high school wrestler. I was wondering if lipo-6 was the way to go for me... i need to lose 20-25 pounds by the beginning of the season. currently i take whey proteina and i am starting to add NO explode before workouts. I was wondering if lipo-6 was the way to go[/QUOTE]

Not sure about the Lipo-6 but the NO explode is not a good idea if you want to loose weight. Just stick with the protein.

I just received a bottle of scorch from bb.com and I think it's the old formula, the one with PEA and isobutyrl thiamine disulfide but no Xanthinol Nicotinate and Coleus Forskholii like the new apparently has. Does anyone know if this version is good, or is it less effective, safe, etc?

Redline is still my favorite energy/fat burner, because it tastes great and works and the new Xtreme actually has beta alanine in it. What?!?! That's tight.

[url]http://redlinerush.com/[/url]

Another what Should I do question...
I lift about 4-5 days a week have a half way decent diet it could be a lot better but its real hard for me to stick to a strick diet. Im at about 195 and im 5 9 but I have a pretty decent amount of muscle. I am starting to gain more weight in my waist right now im squeezing into my old 34 inch waist and prolly should be wearing a 36. I want to drop about 20 lbs ish. I tried zantrex for a few days but i got pretty sick. So im gonna try just one pill before work outs and see if it does anything for me. Any suggestions? Thanks!

VPX's REDLINE formula is very popular and very effective. Available in RTD and pill form, the effects are felt instantly!

[QUOTE=virtuazoso;58787601]I just received a bottle of scorch from bb.com and I think it's the old formula, the one with PEA and isobutyrl thiamine disulfide but no Xanthinol Nicotinate and Coleus Forskholii like the new apparently has. Does anyone know if this version is good, or is it less effective, safe, etc?[/QUOTE]

dude that sucks. i would ask for a refund or replacement. not that the old version is that bad, but the new version is that good. i ordered mine probably three weeks ago and got the new version.
go talk to "definition danielle" or "body building bob" or "work out willy" or "big bicep billy" or "free basin fred" oh wait, thats a different forum.

[QUOTE=shimmy825;58681761]I just started taking the Lipo 6 yesterday, what does your diet look like? Have you ever taken any other ephedra free fat burners?[/QUOTE]

you might want to stop taking lipo 6 immediately. guggelsterones are not your friend.

[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=466547&highlight=issue[/url]

[QUOTE=long101;59114701]Another what Should I do question...
I lift about 4-5 days a week have a half way decent diet it could be a lot better but its real hard for me to stick to a strick diet. Im at about 195 and im 5 9 but I have a pretty decent amount of muscle. I am starting to gain more weight in my waist right now im squeezing into my old 34 inch waist and prolly should be wearing a 36. I want to drop about 20 lbs ish. I tried zantrex for a few days but i got pretty sick. So im gonna try just one pill before work outs and see if it does anything for me. Any suggestions? Thanks![/QUOTE]
You could try AMP, Leviathan and DCP pre-workout, but you have to fix your diet to gain the full benefits. Maybe add in a bit of cardio too.

[QUOTE=tosca;59178061]you might want to stop taking lipo 6 immediately. guggelsterones are not your friend.

[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=466547&highlight=issue[/url][/QUOTE]

20 mg per serving is it harmful? Why the FDA didn't ban pills with guggel?

[QUOTE=XAU;60028841]20 mg per serving is it harmful? Why the FDA didn't ban pills with guggel?[/QUOTE]

honestly, i would say yes. considering what i have read so far i would avoid any amount. and it isnt in the FDAs job description to approve or disapprove fat burners and the ingredients included, because they fall into the category of dietary supplements.

Isnt this a threat about [u]EPHEDRA FREE[/u] Fat Burners ??


What about that normal Hydroxycut i bought in WalMart ? ist it good?
already got it but not used it yet.

I lift Mon., Wed., and Fri., and I run every other day of the week. I try to alternate my exercises to achieve the best result but have not had much success in burning off fat. I was wondering which products would help to give me the best results. Any information would be much appreciated.
Thanx in advance.

I've read through the many pages of this forum topic and have decided that knowing what i'm putting in me is the best way to go. Since I live in Canada and Ephedrine, Caffeine, and Aspirin are all easy to get, That's the way I wanna go. My dilemma is this, what doses have people that use this stack tried? Did they work well? I'm 6'0 and mid-180 lb range. Fit(play lots of football competitively). My only previous supplement experience was during college football days with steroids and the like. Now I'm trying to lean out for my sports (no desire to go the roids road again).

From what I've read 25mg of Ephies 4 times a day, a couple aspirin once a day, and some magical dose of caffiene 3 times a day seems to work for most people around 200 lbs. This amount of ephedrine seems high though. lol, would I end up having a heart attack on the football field when I got hot? I know only me o my doctor could answer that with certainty, but I can't really ask him 'what most people take'.

Any ideas?

Ive been taking Lipo6 for about 3 weeks now.. I have finally broke a barriar Ive been trying to break for a long time. However I've also bettered my diet as well in the process and been hitting the gym a bit harder. After reading all the stuff about guggulsterones lately, Ive become a little worried although I dont notice any ill effects from it as of yet. Ive been reading/hearing good things about scorch, but was wondering what you guys might think. I have VERY slow metabolism, I some times joke that it doesnt exist.
Im 5' 10", weigh between 178- and 185 depending on the day, I need the extra help in getting rid of my love handles and some belly chub... I'm not fat by any means, but want so bad to trim up. I goto the gym 4 times a week, play softball twice a week. I consider myself fairly active but still cant get the results im looking for. The barriar i mentioned above was getting under 180.

Thanks in advance.
BTW: i dont have any issues with caffiene, i started with 4 a day of the lipo6 on day 2.. Also, like others have mentioned, I really like the boost before workouts in the morning.

[QUOTE=cranksteR;60840201]Isnt this a threat about [u]EPHEDRA FREE[/u] Fat Burners ??


What about that normal Hydroxycut i bought in WalMart ? ist it good?
already got it but not used it yet.[/QUOTE]

the guy at supplement store told me that it's a waste of money... but it might work for you..
why don't you use Hydroxycut hardcore...

[QUOTE=admin;2805741]If you had to pick just ONE ephedra-free fat burning product, what would be the best one?

Please pick product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take fat burners, if you should take fat burners, or why some fat burners are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite fat burning product and give your detailed reason.)[/QUOTE]
I am trying Musclewerks DFine 8. So far this is very good at helping me lean up and control my hunger. This product seems to be doing what they say it will do.
Its hard to find and I have not heard any one talking about it.

after spending countless hours on these forums, searching, reading, studyin, I've come to the conclusion that the thermogenics dont work for alot of people. People swear by the EC stack, but me, since Im not a fan of Ephredrine, was looking to either stack scorch/vaperize, or try out the new N-Cinerate..
Been using Lipo 6 for almost a month, have a few days left and the only thing I can tell its done for me was skip past a plateau, and gives me enough juice to hit the gym at 6:00am.. other than that I haven't noticed much from it. If it wernt for the Guggulsterones, I'd prolly try the Lipo 6x..

[QUOTE=fffizzz;61130961]Ive been taking Lipo6 for about 3 weeks now.. I have finally broke a barriar Ive been trying to break for a long time. However I've also bettered my diet as well in the process and been hitting the gym a bit harder. After reading all the stuff about guggulsterones lately, Ive become a little worried although I dont notice any ill effects from it as of yet. Ive been reading/hearing good things about scorch, but was wondering what you guys might think. I have VERY slow metabolism, I some times joke that it doesnt exist.
Im 5' 10", weigh between 178- and 185 depending on the day, I need the extra help in getting rid of my love handles and some belly chub... I'm not fat by any means, but want so bad to trim up. I goto the gym 4 times a week, play softball twice a week. I consider myself fairly active but still cant get the results im looking for. The barriar i mentioned above was getting under 180.

Thanks in advance.
BTW: i dont have any issues with caffiene, i started with 4 a day of the lipo6 on day 2.. Also, like others have mentioned, I really like the boost before workouts in the morning.[/QUOTE]

I'm glad Lipo 6 worked for you. It was a GREAT appetite suppresent for me. I mean I really had to force myself to eat and would sometimes forget. The only side effect is that It made me kind of aggro.. kept wanting to pick fights with people.. constantly fought with my girlfriend. Emotions detached a bit. Wounded up flushin them down the toilet. Although now that I'm single I might try them again. Nothing beats a good hunger supressent.

Lipo6 is a really good product. It's helped me lose 30 pounds. It's not nearly as good as Ephedra when it was around... but it still helps!

When I take the product, I notice an increase of sweat when just doing normal activities. When I lift, I take it 30-45 minutes pre-workout, and it helps you sweat, and it feels like it helps my muscles get going.

anyone know what i should try?

im a football player looking to lose FAT, mostly around chest-abs-lower back.

dont wanna spend a lot..under $40 would be nice. i only really care about getting the stupid fat off but i dont wanna lose a ton of weight

im around 14-15% BF

i think i have a slight case of gyno btw..so anything that can help add with that or do i gotta buy aromasin or something?

Great post thx for the info.

what about cybergenics quick trim?

Hydroxy cut Hard core

does the cream really work?

I've been taking Lipo 6 for a few weeks now and I must say that I'm a bit addicted. I'm not feeling that way because it helps me lose fat, which it really hasn't as far as I've noticed. I'm saying this because it enhances my mood a bit. It's not solely the caffeine, because other caffeine products don't give me the same feeling. It's like, I pop a pill before I go into work at 9:00am and I am in a good mood, working hard, excited, until about 3:00pm and then I'm close to dead. Then I take another one and I'm good until bedtime. I haven't lost anything or seen any fat loss since taking the product, but as an overall energy product I think it's great!

What happened to this product and does any one know where i can get some of this?