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I used to have doubts about most ephedra free fat burners until Syntrax sent me a bottle of their FYRE. I've been on it for 2 weeks...the stuff is AMAZING! Check out my log:
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=12224708#post12224708[/url]
Here's another log:
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=932530[/url]
And yet another one:
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=919733[/url]
All of us have had great results so far...
dude 10lbs in 3 weeks is good, you don't wanna kiss your muscle goodbye.
Stimulant-X is unbelievable! My wife and I have been taking ephedra based products and ECA stacks for years(and still do occasionally), and stim-x is so much more powerful. It makes me wonder what it really contains. There are only two draw-backs that I notice; 1. Severe headache when you stop taking it.
2. Absolutely no appetite whatsoever for roughly 12 hours after taking it. Because of the second draw-back, it is very important to eat before you take it, as stated on the bottle.
Oh yeah! I got my last bottle on E-bay for 28.00 including shipping.
Good recommendation!! :D
i have to agree about the stimulant x. i got the 4 sample pills in the mail. i took one around 1 in the afternoon (cuz thats when i got it in the mail and i was eager to try it :p ), and I was off the wall for 12 straight hours! And my workout that night was INTENSE! I'm gonna buy a bottle when I get the extra cash.
[QUOTE=LittleSwole30]Emagrece Sim is a brasilian product. But it is now banned for some reason. I took it for one month and lost 25 pounds. It was such a great product! The woman who formulated it is now in prison for some odd reason.. lol. I went from 145lbs to 117lbs in a month.[/QUOTE]
hmm... that doesnt sound really convincing lol...
"its brazilian, its banned, shes in jail"... ILL TAKE IT!!!
hey all,
Ill just put my input in, im taking lipo6 atm and it seems ok, i feel an increase in energy everytime i take it and feel more motivated to do cardio (might be a placebo effect). in 3 weeks i lost 5 kilos which isnt much but i am also drinking a lot of WPI. I have noticed an increase in muscle definition around the abdominal region which is a good sign.
Before i purchased these thought i read up alot on it and made sure my doc gave me the green light as it can cause increased heartrate and i beleive it also has an effect where it contricts ur main arteries (not sure what it is called) that can cause ppl to experience chest pains.
But i rekon if you follow the instructions it can assist with you healthy diet and exercise plan.
I absolutely disagree. I can't believe your doctor actually suggested a product with yohimbine and guggles is actually okay.
Inotropic = upped Heart Rate
Vasoconstricitve = constriction of vessels
Bad combo.
Scorch V3, Basic Cuts, and Thermal Rage are FAR more sensible options.
I finished my cycle of EC (2 weeks) and started with green tea (ECGC). Can Lipo6 be taken with this stim?
[QUOTE=JK2006;12839924]I finished my cycle of EC (2 weeks) and started with green tea (ECGC). Can Lipo6 be taken with this stim?[/QUOTE]
Yes but Themorexin is a better choice. And it's on sale here at bb.com.
[QUOTE=LittleSwole30;12386362]Emagrece Sim is a brasilian product. But it is now banned for some reason. I took it for one month and lost 25 pounds. It was such a great product! The woman who formulated it is now in prison for some odd reason.. lol. I went from 145lbs to 117lbs in a month.[/QUOTE]
htt p://www .diet-blog .com/archives/2006/01/13/emagrece_sim_warning.php
and now you know why...
Ok, first of all I for all those people who say this fat burner was great or bad, They really don't appealing to me because I have no idea how well you support the fat burner with diet and exercise. Above that everyone's body is different. To get on the topic, I have taken hydroxycut hardcore, with extremely clean diet, and cardio as well as 5 lifting sessions a week. I feel it has helped me get ripped and slightly go above my platuea but I do not think it's worth the money. I am leaning toawrds hot rox, and planning to stack it with green tea extract and some yohimbe. If this does not work, I do believe that all this supplement hype is a waste of money, and i'm just going to stick to the basics, which is good diet and exercise.
id have to say syntrax fyre.
Thanks for the link to the free Stim X sample, Ill test it out.
I just started taking HydroxyHardcore and it like knocks me out - I get exhausted.
I used to take TrimSpa since my sister bought some (before lifting) and its more like a appetite suppresser than an energy booster. It didnt do really anything besides make me not want to eat. I did lose a few pounds in a month my regular activities though, I gained it back pretty quick and then some.
A great combination that got me rock hard looking, super vascular and dripped the fat off is
400mcg of Chromiun Picolinate a day
1000mg of Nicotinic Acid a day
2ml of L Caritine every second day
and 50mg of Vanadyl Sulfate a day
as well as with Protein powder and Creatine.
Methyl RIPPED is good but it makes me feel like i wanna keep taking it kind of like ciggarent craving for more
[QUOTE=DayvBoy;12917647]A great combination that got me rock hard looking, super vascular and dripped the fat off is
400mcg of Chromiun Picolinate a day
1000mg of Nicotinic Acid a day
2ml of L Caritine every second day
and 50mg of Vanadyl Sulfate a day
as well as with Protein powder and Creatine.[/QUOTE]
is that roids!!
No way matey, clean as can be.....nothing illegal about that rock hard, ultra vascular fomula I mentioned above... all supplements you can obtain yourself very very easliy...
TRy Liquid soft gel green tea Fat burner is on sale at CVS for 5.25 save ur money and lose some weight by using this
For fat burning, nothing beats the treadmill. Ephedrine made my hands shake and I swear i felt my heart quiver, and that was on a third of the standard dose for BB. Water water and more water with green tea for the pep ups in the morning and afternoon are pretty much the best stack I have found.
I have been using Lipo 6 for almost a month now. With my current workout which is a good mix of weight training, cardio vascular, and endurance training I have been able to drop from 16 to 10.5% body fat.
[QUOTE=cain9580;13056647]I have been using Lipo 6 for almost a month now. With my current workout which is a good mix of weight training, cardio vascular, and endurance training I have been able to drop from 16 to 10.5% body fat.[/QUOTE]
wow thats very impressive, in only one month? What are your actual stats?
In April 2006 I decided to get back into going to the gym after a few year lapse. I weighed in at a sloppy 140 average pounds.
Up until about the beginning of October I was in a constant bulk phase and my weight topped of at about 164 pounds.
I decided it was time to start cutting back some of the fat and better see my progress so I did some research, got some Lipo 6, changed my workout and the rest is history.
I changed my workout, regulated my diet, and started on the Lipo 6. At the time of this article I am sitting at 154 pounds with a 30 inch waist.
I started using Thermorexin + green Tea (ECGC). Been on it for 2 days. Its OK but the energy is lesser than EC. With EC I could never take a afternoon nap. But with Thermorexin I slept for 2 hrs this Sunday afternoon :)
EC dehydrates you way more than Thermorexin. With EC I was consuming close to 2 gallons a day. With Thermorexin its more like 1 gallon, but its sufficient I think.
OK. I am curious,
Lipo-6 won the award for best fat burner, Would it even have been close if EC was in the runnings?
Could or should someone take ephedra with lipo-6 (If legal where they live OF COURSE).
[QUOTE=Goodfella213;13093934]OK. I am curious,
Lipo-6 won the award for best fat burner, Would it even have been close if EC was in the runnings?
Could or should someone take ephedra with lipo-6 (If legal where they live OF COURSE).[/QUOTE]
You could, but you are running risks (the seriousness of these risks is not clinically proven). The risks stem from adding ephedrine to yohimbine. Yohimbine acts as an MAOI, which, in turn (if I've got the science right) causes a block of the re-uptake of of epineprhine (released by the ephedrine). As this substance increases in levels in the body, it causes in increased risk of myocardial infarction. In other words, I don't reco the E plus the Y, and those two you've asked about would do just that.
Thank you for that info and advise. I really appriciate it!!!!!!
Which would you suggest? (EC or Lipo-6)
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[QUOTE=Cyrus317;13106337]You could, but you are running risks (the seriousness of these risks is not clinically proven). The risks stem from adding ephedrine to yohimbine. Yohimbine acts as an MAOI, which, in turn (if I've got the science right) causes a block of the re-uptake of of epineprhine (released by the ephedrine). As this substance increases in levels in the body, it causes in increased risk of myocardial infarction. In other words, I don't reco the E plus the Y, and those two you've asked about would do just that.[/QUOTE]
Yohimbine is an alpha 2 adrenoreceptor antagonist meaning it will block these receptors which normally serve to regulate noradrenaline/norepinephrine levels via negative feedback. Net result is increased NE. Adding ephedrine could exacerbate this, but as ephedrines effect is merely to displace NE stored in neurones, this may not have [b]as much of an effect as usual [/b] because the yohimbine would have meant more NE release so less would be stored in the first place.....
With respect to the MAOIs, any supplement containing a MAO-A inhibitor would have to warn against eating foods containing tryptamine such as cheese and some wines, or a fatal hypertension and stroke could occur. Thus to my knowledge MAO-B inhibitors are more likely to be used like in basic cuts, as MAO-A is the isoform that metabolises NE.
The risk would be mainly that of getting an arrythmia
Hydroxycut hardcore all the way!!!
I've gotten so much useful information from this forum ever since I've joined it. It's great :)
I have a question about Lipo-6
I realize it's ephedra free which is a definite plus for me, but does have caffeine.
I'm a noob here just trying to learn so bear with me. My question is this, I've never been too big of a fan of caffeine either but my body recieves it ok. After a certain point however I get shaky. I'm not aware what constitute a high level of caffeine but I see that Lipo-6 has 200mg of it.
Should I just look for a stimulant free fat burner instead or would I be ok using this?
Thanks in advance
started lipo last thursday
did the one and one as recommended
noticed after the first pill that i felt strangely "buzzed" or smashed
same after the second in the afternoon
friday the symptoms had disappeared
yesterday, i started with two and two (the recommended dose) and didn't have any buzzed feelings
i hope it's working!
other supps: size on, sp250, whey, multi
(halodrol in january)
32yo, 5'11/225, bp: 365/ip: 315/squat: 405 for a few
[QUOTE=thekid83;13200728]started lipo last thursday
did the one and one as recommended
noticed after the first pill that i felt strangely "buzzed" or smashed
same after the second in the afternoon
friday the symptoms had disappeared
yesterday, i started with two and two (the recommended dose) and didn't have any buzzed feelings
i hope it's working!
other supps: size on, sp250, whey, multi
(halodrol in january)
32yo, 5'11/225, bp: 365/ip: 315/squat: 405 for a few[/QUOTE]
how long did you feel those effects for? hour, few hours etc..
Lipo-6
truthfully, the whole day
but considering the fact that i average two medium dunkin donuts black coffees before noon and lipo has caffeine and synephrine might have something to do with it
I am currently using Red Acid Gen 2 by Controlled Labs, and its not too bad. Definitley helps me work up a sweat. Not much in the energy/appetite suppression dept though in my case...
[QUOTE=LittleSwole30;12386362]Emagrece Sim is a brasilian product. But it is now banned for some reason. I took it for one month and lost 25 pounds. It was such a great product! The woman who formulated it is now in prison for some odd reason.. lol. I went from 145lbs to 117lbs in a month.[/QUOTE]
Found this about whats in that product:
"After testing - the diet pills were found to contain any of the following:
* Chlordiazepoxide HCl (the active ingredient in Librium)
* Fluoxetine HCl (the active ingredient in Prozac)
* Fenproporex, a stimulant that is not approved for marketing in the United States. Fenproporex is converted in the body to amphetamine, and as a result has been noted to show up in urinalysis as a positive test for amphetamines."
No thanks...
after spending some time researching/googling synephrine, guggelsterones, and the other **** in lipo, i think i'm done with it
i've been taking supplements since '91 and the original hot stuff and the only **** that works is protein, creatine, and a multi (the juice notwithstanding)
i just fell for the shiny label...
Has anyone had experience with Stim X vs. Lipo 6?
tried hydroxicut would this be a good thing to take also is there any cheap affective brands that do the same
My best success has been with Scorch. Lost about 15 pounds in 4 weeks with it (think some was water weight though), but I was also doing cardio and weight training frequently and had my diet fairly in check.
I also had pretty good success with Melting Point and Basic Cuts stacked, although my vote would still go with Scorch.
[QUOTE=bubba0216;13329206]My best success has been with Scorch. Lost about 15 pounds in 4 weeks with it (think some was water weight though), but I was also doing cardio and weight training frequently and had my diet fairly in check.
I also had pretty good success with Melting Point and Basic Cuts stacked, although my vote would still go with Scorch.[/QUOTE]
Both are excellent. For a single product stim, Scorch is VERY hard to beat. For a stim/non-stim combo, Melting Point + Scorch is downright effective.
Thermorexin is better than scorch. There's nothing better for dieting.
Red Blast is the best workout formula.
[QUOTE=ulter;13334851]Thermorexin is better than scorch. There's nothing better for dieting.
Red Blast is the best workout formula.[/QUOTE]
Well hello old friend ;)
Do say hello to Krank or Krap or whatever his name is for me. ;)
animal cuts is good
just started animal cuts today. ill let you know how it goes. im currently at 205 and by summer i would like to be at 180-185. or gain tons of muscle and lose tons of fat and get to 210
after this gonna give lipo-6 a try, see where it goes from there..
I'm back!
I wanna burn the fat off, and wanna take a fat burner....but is it gonna lose my appetite. I wanna still have my 4-6 meals a day, but affraid if I take lipo-6 or Hydroxy, that I wont wanna eat.....let me know....appreciate it!!!
lipo 6 is ok i used it. i still ate 4 - 6 meals a day to get ready for natl.
im down to lipo, scorch, Fyre, or stim-x. What is the best way to go? Or is it still the good old green tea. info would be great. All opinions seem to be getting good responses...